Bet you were grateful you couldn’t post in those forums on Monday
You handed Benfica 100m for Nunez. What is your point?
United...1990s Liverpool re-enacted?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
Bet you were grateful you couldn’t post in those forums on Monday
You handed Benfica 100m for Nunez. What is your point?
The original point I made in this thread was I couldn't understand the vitriol the Glazers kept getting for not spending Utd's cash on players for Utd, when quite clearly we see the Glazers time and again spending a billion of Utd's cash on players for Utd.
That was the point.
Surely you know that’s not the primary issue with the Glazers?! Surely!?
Maybe you should have Glazers as your owners then.
Not even Liverpool. Just Dumpster.
Although his posts might get even worse, if that's possible.
Although his posts might get even worse, if that's possible.
They have always had money to spend but just spent it unwisley according to the supporters , although at the begining of last season a lot people thought united had one of the top 5 squads on paper, but of course it was the owners fault for the collapse.
Now with the huge spending spree that just happened they have to be tipped for a top four spot with the new players and new manager, but if they fall short it will naturally be the owners fault again. Round and round it goes.
Yep, and if Utd fans succeed in kicking out the Glazers there are no other owners that can buy Utd while not being racist, homophobic, war mongering governments. Any less controversial owner (consortium) will put the same debts on the club as the Glazers have. And expect the same dividends. Utd will not be forced to be sold sold for £300m through the courts like Liverpool were a decade ago. That was a unique and very fortunate phenomena.
So for Utd fans you either cheer on the Glazers (most successful owners ever in PL history) or start cheering for a murdering oil regime to take you over. There are no other viable solutions to cheer/protest for.
And I will add, Liverpool will probably have this 'problem' soon enough when FSG finally decide to sell us for a couple of billion. That's the nature of making football into an open market business. Thanks Man Utd for that, I was alive to see it happen. We will all reap what we sowed, Utd have always led the way in that regard (they've reaped the successes and now the other side of the coin).
*Note, this is the view of non-Utd fans without bothering to go over religious texts in the main forum, because we don't care enough. Njred and I have piped up to help give this view with the threat of being banned for being wums.
I mean this is obviously not true.
I find the banter between supporters on here, and more specifically Liverpool supporters, to be amusing at times, mildly annoying at others, but the few comments dismissing the Glazer out movement in the past page by Liverpool fans are just distasteful, and beyond the petty rivalry, I would have hoped there would be a modicum of respect and understanding (especially as you guys have been straddled by poor ownership in the past). Focusing on the spending is a complete non sequitur with regards to the ownership debate, it's exactly the Kool Aid the Glazers want people to swallow. They have held the club back so much that it would take years of actual steady progress (which is very rare in football, and requires a lot of planets to align) for us to catch up with the pack - and it's not a bit of a spending spree on random players that changes that fact.
@njred and @Dumbstar are just wumming.
Neither are that thick to believe all that they have just wrote.
That said it’s a lot of effort to go to on a United forum they’ve been a part of for over a decade.
Agree with you though in that it’s in poor taste. Despite the banter I do have a grudging respect for Liverpool Football Club based on its success over the years and how they’ve sustained it. There’s many similarities between both clubs and cities.
Sadly I’m more Scouse than those two (and I’m from Manchester). They’ll never ‘get it’.
I know, and I think it's a bit distasteful to be wumming about this, as a Liv fan on a Utd forum. They're both annoying posters in general, especially @Dumbstar, but at least it's usually limited to actual footballing topics.
And I feel this is even more the case considering that Utd fans, especially on here, have shown a lot of admiration in how Liverpool has re-invented itself as a footballing structure over the past decade or so.
Do you 'get it' when Rashford is feeding Manc and Scouse starving kids while you join in with the 'Sign On' song? Oh, that's just banter? Anyway let's not get into an argument. I've mentioned that I'm fully expecting Liverpool to be saddled with crippling debts as soon as FSG decide to leave. I said it above too. That's the nature of open market. We're all fecked since Utd took that 'step up'. Suck it up. You, and soon, us. It's what we signed up for.
What’s the relevance here?
I’m not sure even you know what you’re talking about.
You hate United. No problems. Not sure why you’re here though?
What are you even on about?
I don’t think he even knows.
He’s wumming about the Glazers in the Nunez thread too.
Not more scouse than me. But that doesn’t matter right now. What matters is you have now spent a lot. Just like last season you squad is loaded.
Liverpool weren’t this bad in the 1990s.
Nope, united haven’t finished within ten points off the top since the big guy retired. 11-12 yrs?
You had a run of 6th, 6th and 8th in the early 90s so definitely were as bad.
We beat them 3-0, 4-0, 5-0, 7-0 in the 90s?
Eye test says no. We had great players unlike united today. Fowler,Barnes,Rush, Stevie Mac and we always gave you a game. Yes we’re reduced to a cup team but we never ever didn’t put an effort in against united. Your team gives up and I don’t know why.
God 90s Liverpool were brutal. They started winning some trophies again in ealry 2000s, but in the 90s they won 1 league cup and 1 Fa Cup.
We’re more like 2010s Sunderland.
Berrada thinks we'll win the PL by 2028... Id say it's equally as likely we'll finish 8th in 2028
It’s sad how this thread was made seven fecking years ago and we’re now even worse.
8th in the Championship.
This thread was made when we won the double of Europa League and League Cup.
We look a hell of a lot worse now. Below 90s Liverpool.
We look a hell of a lot worse now. Below 90s Liverpool.
+ 1 league title
Yup. We’re more like 90s Everton.
Current United are worse than 90s Liverpool.
At least we’re not desperate to have double managers… yet?
At least we’re not desperate to have double managers… yet?
We just need to wear some white suits to our next cup final.
If we ever make it to another one, that is.
If we ever make it to another one, that is.
Ten Hag has won the same amount at United as that Liverpool team managed in over a decade.
Im talking about their decline of course. Post title winning sides
100%, even in our relative decline we have tacked on the trophies. Pool were basically irrelevant and we never were nor will be.
Also, zero chance we go anywhere near as long without winning the league, especially with City's punishment looming, easy to forget if not for those cheats, we would have 2 more league titles already in our 'Liverpool phase'.
Not the same at all.
Yet he should have been sacked and he’s making the team worse. Never has an FA Cup win papered over cracks more since Souness in ‘92.
His greatest accomplishment is to make Solskjaer (still unemployed) look a bit better. Astonishing.
Im not sure.. I can still remember Liverpool giving us a decent game even when they were in pretty poor form or in bad shape. They might have been poor but their players knew what the big games meant, and the important / magnitude of playing for their club. They didnt just always collapse after conceding. Plus they did manage to get to a few finals within that time also similar to us now.
Their 90s squad would be closer to what we had a few seasons back when we were playing jones & smalling at the back, dan james and co up front. The squad we have now is miles better, I just cant get my head around how they can still look so sh*te
Their 90s squad would be closer to what we had a few seasons back when we were playing jones & smalling at the back, dan james and co up front. The squad we have now is miles better, I just cant get my head around how they can still look so sh*te
This is more like Sexton’s United.
Pretty much. Liverpool were terrible in the league for most of the 90s but had some good cup runs. Won FA cup in 1992, league cup in 1995 and reached FA cup final again in 1996 so replicated ETH albeit over a longer period. Their league finishes in those seasons were poor, 1996-97 the only time they seriously challenged for the league.
Also some of the losses Liverpool had in Europe were incredible in that period, got to the SFs of Cup winners cup and lost 3-0 to PSG and couldn't quite turn it round at Anfield. Then the next season Strasbourg beat them 3-0 which must be one of the worst euro losses they've had when you account for the opposition.
Man. United and Liverpool imitate each other through the decades more than people realise.
Last 3-4 years of Wenger at Arsenal also a good comparison.
Also some of the losses Liverpool had in Europe were incredible in that period, got to the SFs of Cup winners cup and lost 3-0 to PSG and couldn't quite turn it round at Anfield. Then the next season Strasbourg beat them 3-0 which must be one of the worst euro losses they've had when you account for the opposition.
Man. United and Liverpool imitate each other through the decades more than people realise.
Last 3-4 years of Wenger at Arsenal also a good comparison.
You got that right. I think from 1970-1990 we won 11 leagues and 4 European Cups
United from 1993-2013 won 13 and 2. It’s bizarre that we have never been good at the same time and live on different timelines for success, but the success is identical.
To be fair 90s Liverpool weren't the joint top or 2nd biggest spenders in the PL like the current Utd, it boggles my mind the amount of dross purchased and sky-high wages being paid to perennial benchwarmers like Antony (both Martial and dos Santos).