I admire your blind faith.
How could he have stayed at Chelsea when he was sacked? Refuse to go?
Let's ask Martinez and the others who have managed non-top clubs and won a cup in the last decade.
Funny how Sir Alex knows best when it comes to picking his successor, yet the same Sir Alex who said he left a great squad is completely wrong when it comes to squad building.
Do please explain this statement.
Since you mention it, I was promoted after three days to the main forum. How long did it take you btw?
He did once.
Pray tell...
I had a glass of wine with him once, does that qualify? or does it have to be curry?
How the hell have Rafa and Van Gaal not been successful?
Mourinho wanted to win major trophies everywhere though before he settled. Hardly a bad thing, an ambitious manager who wanted to go down in history. He left Chelsea the first time because abramovich forced him out as well. Not the same thing.
As explained previously, Moyes was appointed by the best indicated person on the back of strong managerial credentials.
If he was that successful in this most recent spells, bayern and barca, he would still be at the club instead of being fired. At Barca he was sacked in january with Barca 3 pts from relegation zone. At Bayern he was sacked in April with Bayern in 4th. Rafa's fine, but when Liverpool and Chelsea both sack him in the last 5-6 years I don't think it's suitable to label him our savior eithe
By your standards Sir Alex is the only successful manager in the last 20 years.
Hindsight's a wonderful thing isn' t it? Were you putting forward the virtues of Martinez as a Utd manager when he was at Wigan? I know I did and got laughed at
Really would love to see you name these qualities.
David Moyes is a top manager? you are incredibly deluded if you think he is. Spectacularly deluded in scouse proportions.
Two years or so, the promotion system has been, shall we say, relaxed a little recently, they've basically taken the shit filter off.
Guardiola and Klopp won't be sacked from their clubs. I just don't think replacing moyes with an average manager like Van Gaal who wasn't able to get the best out of his previous two clubs is a good move. Fair enough if you do.
You seem to have ignored my earlier post:
If Van Gaal is average then what the hell is Moyes? he could only dream of winning trophies with Bayern, Barcelona and Ajax. That statement would still work without mentioning the name of any clubs.
I always said he was better then moyes though and more suited to a top teams same with pochettino. Neither are at the level to be united managers yet, but we'd be far better off with them. I said from the start the exact same thing I've been saying all year about moyes, and he's been even worse then I thought he'd be. Always felt he might get us in the champions league but we'd be shit to watch, we'd never win trophies with him, etc.
Feel free to spit on the judgment of the man who brought all the success you have ever cherished as a football fan.
Being proven right is normally a wonderful thing, unfortunately for a lot of us, Moyes being a disaster is a prediction I didn't want to get proven right...
7 league titles across three countries, 3 domestic cups, 1 Champions League and 1 Uefa Cup.
Staggering on so many levels. Taking the lead has become the indicator of success? Grow into the coaching role? this is not a fecking internship. you cannot learn on this job.
He said he left a great squad and sees United continue the success for years to come, it's the likes of you who moan and moan about the squad he left behind and believe the shit that Moyes has been feeding you about rebuilding.
If we gave him six years we'd win the quadruple.
I know plenty of bayern fans say that their current success wouldn't have happened if van gaal didn't lay the foundations for it first. He rebuilt them, put his trust in their excellent youth players when the previous managers were prepared to get rid, had them playing good attacking football and had them competing still. They even made the champions league final once, beating us in the process. He's as good as it gets to rebuild the club and get us back on track, rather then sitting around mid table like we are.
I'm sure there are loads of managers out there who would love to stay at one of the biggest clubs long term. Doesn't mean they're the right person for the job though.
It's amazing that only United know to operate this way, god forbid Liverpool gave Souness or Evan 6 yrs back in the 90s, Sir Alex would never have knocked them off their perch.
Tell that one to the man who claimed the squad Ferguson left was a bit shit.
Wouldn't actually be the first time a legendary ex-manager has led us down a dark road after retiring.
What does this even mean? Sir Alex said many times he left the club in a great position for future success, making it as easy as possible for the next manager to take over, had a fantastic backroom staff set up, had world class players in the club, and great facilities. Moyes takes over and within a few months suddenly we are loaded with mid table players, need a complete revamp, moyes saying even fergie wouldn't do better with this squad, him basically telling the squad time and time again he'll have huge changes in the summer, all because they played like shit because of him. Suddenly he manages a draw against bayern by parking the bus and suddenly he says we have a very good squad with some great players, capable of results like that. He's just clueless.
His similarities with Sir Alex begin and end with their nationality. Let's just make Fletcher player-manager.
It looks absolutely ridiculous and unbelievable when written down and yet I completely agree with it. If he wasn't scottish he wouldn't be here.
Only because nani nana has gone a bit mad and said some ridiculous things having everyone else pretty much jump on what he says8 new pages since I last opened this thread
I wish I was wrong, I really do - but I just don't see this. Please someone try and convince me otherwise.
Mainly because Nani Nana came up with this gem:8 new pages since I last opened this thread
I wish I was wrong, I really do - but I just don't see this. Please someone try and convince me otherwise.
Lets say that SAF left 3 years ago and Moyes was offered the job, do you think he would have turned it down because he was committed long term to Everton? And what if SAF left 7 years ago and Moyes was offered the job? Do you think he would have turned us down?
