City has Aguero, De Bruyne and Silva, and United has better back 5 players. There's not a lot in it on paper and the current differences are more to do with coaching, management and squad balance.
United vs City squad comparison 2016/17
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Kit: United
Most handsome manager: United
Most letters in clubs name: United
Least ginger players: United
Most poets in first team: United
How is this even a contest at this point.
Most handsome manager: United
Most letters in clubs name: United
Least ginger players: United
Most poets in first team: United
How is this even a contest at this point.
A defender who is good for only 89 minutes is a liability.
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So to not be a liability any defender would have to put in a perfect performance?
Putting in a perfect performance is not the same as not making obvious mistakes.
You concede that Stones is good for 89 minutes.
Are the mistakes he makes in that 1 minute so calamitous that you can label him a liability? I already made reference to the Sunderland and United goals that he was negatively involved in. What else has he done so bad in the 7.5 games he's played?
Did Rio make no mistakes as a young player? Pallister?
Blind is probably at the peak of his powers now and while I respect his ability Stones' upside is placing him on a different level at CB.
Many reds on here wanted Blind out of the team after the Derby. You weren't one of them, I guess?
GK is the only area of the pitch that United are superior to City.
He gives the ball away cheaply, and as a defender that's the second worst thing you can do, right after screwing up defensively. It doesnt need to lead to a goal to be an error. I am sure he will come good, but right now there are just too many mistakes.
Stones is physically superior but he doesn't yet know how to use it, whilst Blind is better on the ball. Doesnt matter what many reds might think, Blind should be starting every game for us.
He's been quite lucky in that regard, he made some pretty big errors against United that went unpunished.
Reports in Portugal of Guardiola watching Grimaldo from Benfica. Don't know if true or not, but he's only played a handful of games, I can say he's been good but I don't think he's ready for the Premier League. After they spent 42M£ no Mangala, which was also an unfinished product, Benfica only has to milk them too, 30M€ at the very least.
Disagree, it's actually very close on paper. Football is not played on paper, however, and at the moment, they do look a lot better than us. I'm not too worried though. We have immense quality so I'm hoping we'll come good.
Almost a month now and this looks the complete opposite.
Nah, the attack bit still holds
Well, apart from the GK, everything is in the favour of City.
Squad wise I think it's very even, but first 11 wise I think City have it. Who out of Uniteds team would displace City's first 11 this season?
To be brutally honest though the only players in Uniteds first 11 that would make it into the City 11 judging by what we've seen so far are De Gea & Shaw, and arguably that's being generous as Kolarov has been an absolutely changed man & one of City's best players this season.
There are obviously some close ones, Bailly for instance has had a decent start, but better than Otamendi/Stones? Not from what we've seen so far, at fault for goals against both City & Watford, found wanting at times. Perhaps over the season he'll prove to be a quality player, but not seen enough to promote above the City guys yet.
Pogba, going to be a fantastic player no doubt, but who would he replace in City's midfield 3? Silva is far superior at dictating a game, De Bruyne is far more productive in terms of end product, and Fernandinho is far more suited to the deep lying defensive midfielder role. For me Pogba hasn't got one specialist skill that is stronger than any of them 3, perhaps he's a more all-rounded midfielder than say Silva/Fernandinho, but currently better? Not for me from what we've seen.
Martial, great season last season & potential to be some player, but since then almost nothing, poor Euros, poor start to the season, for me Nolito has been fantastic & would quite easily be in ahead and as things stand is the better/more experienced player.
Zlatan, in all honestly I don't see it as that close, but I don't like big fairly slow strikers, Zlatan to me just seems to be a (significantly) upgraded Dzeko, appears wasteful at times, loses the ball a decent amount, not quite fast enough. Aguero just suits the PL more for me, and averaging 2 goals a game in his first 5 games, if he stays fit I'd take him 10 times out of 10 ahead of Zlatan, sorry.
To be brutally honest though the only players in Uniteds first 11 that would make it into the City 11 judging by what we've seen so far are De Gea & Shaw, and arguably that's being generous as Kolarov has been an absolutely changed man & one of City's best players this season.
There are obviously some close ones, Bailly for instance has had a decent start, but better than Otamendi/Stones? Not from what we've seen so far, at fault for goals against both City & Watford, found wanting at times. Perhaps over the season he'll prove to be a quality player, but not seen enough to promote above the City guys yet.
Pogba, going to be a fantastic player no doubt, but who would he replace in City's midfield 3? Silva is far superior at dictating a game, De Bruyne is far more productive in terms of end product, and Fernandinho is far more suited to the deep lying defensive midfielder role. For me Pogba hasn't got one specialist skill that is stronger than any of them 3, perhaps he's a more all-rounded midfielder than say Silva/Fernandinho, but currently better? Not for me from what we've seen.
Martial, great season last season & potential to be some player, but since then almost nothing, poor Euros, poor start to the season, for me Nolito has been fantastic & would quite easily be in ahead and as things stand is the better/more experienced player.
Zlatan, in all honestly I don't see it as that close, but I don't like big fairly slow strikers, Zlatan to me just seems to be a (significantly) upgraded Dzeko, appears wasteful at times, loses the ball a decent amount, not quite fast enough. Aguero just suits the PL more for me, and averaging 2 goals a game in his first 5 games, if he stays fit I'd take him 10 times out of 10 ahead of Zlatan, sorry.
Watched him for Spain under 19s in 2012 at the European championships and he looked fantastic. I thought he had the ability and potential to be like Alba(if not better)
Had a bad injury, not sure if it's held him back or not. Great talent though, very attack minded.
Well spotted.
Although DDG/smalling did the same as bravo/stones cockup (albeit Watford missed a goal), so perhaps not even GK.
Don't be ridiculous, one mistake doesn't make Bravo a better keeper than DDG.
There is knee jerk and and then there's this. Yeah we've been shite for the past three games, but not every team hits the ground running under a new manager especially a team with a young starting eleven and that's including our 90m signing. Compare that to City's more experienced crop and it's got to have an impact on how quickly they picked up Pep' way of playing. Let's wait to see how it's looking by Christmas before jumping to ridiculous conclusions.
You are a terrible WUM, not even subtle. I can actually hear your laughter as you type your posts . You should take a long sabbatical onto BlueMoon.Guys like Rooney, Lingard, Fellaini, Valencia, Depay wouldn't get near City's squad, let alone their starting XI. Though in fairness Valencia has looked better this season. I doubt Mata would be seeing any game-time at City either given they have much better options available to them.
In fact the only players that would definitely get into their side is DDG.
DDG is the best keeper in the league and one of the best few in the world. The respective defenses are similar, with City edging it IMO. Midfield there is no contest, and up top there is no contest either. Though I expect this will eventually changes if/when Rashford and Martial develop into the great players they have been promising to become.
There is no ludicrous conclusion that has been jumped to. Any neutral who has watched United and City over the last few seasons would agree.