US Presidential Election: Tuesday November 6th, 2012

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Powell just endorsed Obama again. Colin, not our Nick.

There's a sizeable number of right wingers reacting with "of course he did, he's black!".
why would he endorse Obama while remaining a republican? seems a little odd to me. if he thinks the democrats are better then why wouldn't he switch allegiances?
 

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What's weird is that these "pro-life" and "life is a gift from god" people are also the ones who are most eager to inforce the death penalty and the most eager to start wars.
Most political christians are such in name only and often claim to be religious when it suits a personal agenda.

At least that's my belief. I recall being christian only when I needed something from god and the rest of the time I lived as I pleased. Granted I'm atheist these days.
 

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SDGOP hits Varilek as globetrotting radical: The South Dakota Republican Party is out with a new web video that borrows the tropes of spy movies to paint Varilek as a globetrotting, hard-partying radical, in contrast to Kristi Noem as a local, down-home South Dakota farm girl.
 

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why would he endorse Obama while remaining a republican? seems a little odd to me. if he thinks the democrats are better then why wouldn't he switch allegiances?
It's different from party identification, he just thinks of himself as a Republican but sees Obama as a better choice for the US. He didn't like the lurch to the right with Palin in 08 so he's probably not too fond of the current shower either.
 

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SDGOP hits Varilek as globetrotting radical: The South Dakota Republican Party is out with a new web video that borrows the tropes of spy movies to paint Varilek as a globetrotting, hard-partying radical, in contrast to Kristi Noem as a local, down-home South Dakota farm girl.
Corn dogs and beer = hard-partying?
 

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SDGOP hits Varilek as globetrotting radical: The South Dakota Republican Party is out with a new web video that borrows the tropes of spy movies to paint Varilek as a globetrotting, hard-partying radical, in contrast to Kristi Noem as a local, down-home South Dakota farm girl.
Suppose, depending on the district it could be a viable strategy. If its very rural and undereducated maybe farmgirl is the one they want.
 

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Haha, this is relevant to two of the conversations going on right now. From Kristi Noem's wikipedia:

On the issue of abortion, Noem is pro-life.[43] She has the support of Susan B. Anthony List.[44] She stated after her election that she hopes to maintain a 100 percent pro-life voting record.[41] During her tenure in the State House, Noem voted in favor of the death penalty on several occasions, including a bill changing South Dakota's formula for the lethal injection cocktail.
Almost seems to have been written with deliberate irony.
 

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why would he endorse Obama while remaining a republican? seems a little odd to me. if he thinks the democrats are better then why wouldn't he switch allegiances?
It's sort of the converse situation of Reagan's famous 'I didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me.' Watch him endorse Jeb Bush in 2016 and he will have been quite consistent all the way, especially given that Obama's pretty much governed as a moderate Republican.
 

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Seriously, how on Earth are Republicans letting "rape babies" turn into a political issue this year? Pennsylvania Christian Taliban Wants Women to Prove Rape or No Food Stamps.

A Pennsylvania House bill seeks to limit the amount of food stamp assistance that low-income women receive based on the amount of children they give birth to while covered under the program. Despite the fact that low-income women who give birth to children would logically need increased assistance to care for their larger family, some Pennsylvania lawmakers don’t want their state’s food stamp program to provide additional benefits for that newborn. If a woman gives birth to a child who was conceived from rape, she may seek an exception to this rule so that her food stamp benefits aren’t slashed, but only if she can provide proof that she reported her sexual assault and her abuser’s identity to the police.
So, the bill simultaneously reduces food stamp benefits for low income children and seeks to provide financial incentive for carrying rape babies to term. It's a confluence of market forces and moral imperatives known as the 'Axis of What The feck Is Wrong With You People?'
 

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And my right-wing family and friends wonder why I distanced myself from the GOP/Tea Party. Yet when I give them reasons they claim "liberal media bias" or "liberal lies" or whatever nonsense.
 

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And my right-wing family and friends wonder why I distanced myself from the GOP/Tea Party. Yet when I give them reasons they claim "liberal media bias" or "liberal lies" or whatever nonsense.
ask them to fact check things. Mind you on ecenomics, it is what you believe. I have had discussions with Republicans who will swear by Supply side/Trickle down economics. Keynes is a bad word to them.

Difficult to convince there...except perhaps to look at the difference between Democratic and Republican administrations.
 

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ask them to fact check things. Mind you on ecenomics, it is what you believe. I have had discussions with Republicans who will swear by Supply side/Trickle down economics. Keynes is a bad word to them.

Difficult to convince there...except perhaps to look at the difference between Democratic and Republican administrations.
It's akin to religious convictions - damn near impossible to get people to see another side and/or view from outside the box.
 

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Colin Powell Endorses Obama For President

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/25/colin-powell-endorses-obama_n_2011162.html

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell endorsed President Barack Obama for a second term Thursday.

"You know, I voted for him in 2008 and I plan to stick with him in 2012, and I'll be voting for he and Vice President Joe Biden next month," he said on CBS' "This Morning."

Asked whether it was an endorsement, he said, "Yes."

Powell praised the president's handling of the economy and ending of the Iraq War.

"I think we ought to keep on the track we are on," he said.

Powell said he had the "utmost respect" for Mitt Romney, but criticized his tax plan.

He said Romney's foreign policy was a "moving target." "One day he has a certain strong view about staying in Afghanistan, but then on Monday night he agrees with the withdrawal. Same thing in Iraq. On every issue that was discussed on Monday night, Gov. Romney agreed with the president with some nuances. But this is quite a different set of foreign policy views than he had earlier in the campaign."

Powell, a Republican who served in President George W. Bush's first term, backed Obama in 2008. He was frequently mentioned as a potential Republican challenger against Bill Clinton in 1996, but decided against it.

UPDATE: 12:27 p.m. -- President Barack Obama called Powell on Thursday morning to thank him for the endorsement, according to Obama campaign traveling press secretary Jen Psaki. They did not discuss joint appearances. She said they were "very excited" about it and said they “think it sends a strong signal about why [Obama] should be sent back for another four years to be commander in chief.”

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) blasted Powell on Fox News Radio's "Kilmeade & Friends" Thursday morning.

"Well, I’m just saddened because, you know, I used to be a great admirer of Colin Powell. We were friends. I think one of the sad aspects of his career is going to the United Nations Security Council and telling them things about Iraq that were absolutely false," he said.

"Obviously, my view of the situation in Iraq is we’re losing," he continued. "We’re losing what we won thanks to the surge. Al Qaeda is doubled. There’s training camps in Western Iraq. In Afghanistan, all we do is say we’re leaving. Al Qaeda is on the comeback all over northern Africa. They’ve taken over parts of Mali. All I can say is that Gen. Powell, you disappoint us and you have harmed your legacy even further by defending what has clearly been the most feckless foreign policy in my lifetime."



McCain still hurt about Powell not endorsing him in 2008
 

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Seems to me that politics has shifted so far to the right that Obama would have been a Republican from 1945-2000, and the current Republican platform would have been considered the fringe of the conservative party.
 

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Seems to me that politics has shifted so far to the right that Obama would have been a Republican from 1945-2000, and the current Republican platform would have been considered the fringe of the conservative party.
I think we're at a stage where the Green Party remains the only genuine progressive option in the country.
 

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Obama's a pragmatist above all, and his hands are somewhat tied when he gets labelled a socialist for implementing a fairly Republican idea of healthcare reform. Can't see how he's any further to the right than Clinton was domestically.
 

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On the 538 Electoral Vote Distribution chart the three most likely results are Obama with 330, Obama with 300 and Obama with 340, at 13, 9 and 8% chance respectively.

None of the Romney win totals have more than a 3% chance.
 

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Supposedly a poll has shown Romney cutting in to Obama's lead with women which I find very hard to believe, especially after all this rape talk that has been going on. He needs to keep the lead with women and Hispanics as white men seem to be against him for some reason. Racism?
 

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Supposedly a poll has shown Romney cutting in to Obama's lead with women which I find very hard to believe, especially after all this rape talk that has been going on. He needs to keep the lead with women and Hispanics as white men seem to be against him for some reason. Racism?
White men are the most conservative demographic in America. In competitive areas, Republicans routinely win even in "white guy vs white guy" elections.
 
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