Anyone know why that wasn't a handball?
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That's absolutely scandalous
So it's cool now for walls to make themselves bigger by putting their arms out right?
As a former ref, I see many penalty situations that are understandably not given even though they look bad, particularily regarding hands. The rules have grey zones, there is the interpretation of intent, what is natural etc.
I have tried to rummage my mind for aspects that could explain why VAR did not help the ref there. So far I have only come up with bribes.
How has the on field ref and the VAR ref together not seen that penalty?!?!
Well we all know how the UAE employee hasn't seen it but the VAR guy needs sacking on the spot.
It surprised that I had to come here to see anything about it. All the press is just about Pep moaning over the busy schedule.
The mere fact that Chelsea didn't even get the corner surely indicates that Oliver has seen no contact, which would make his view of the situation a clear and obvious error.
Not even VAR related but what is he and the lino looking at that they've not seen it's a corner? Baffling, it wasn't just a tiny knick either.
BBC:
"And Chelsea also feel they were victims of an injustice as they were infuriated that they were not awarded a second-half penalty when Cole Palmer's free-kick struck Jack Grealish's hand in the wall, only for the video assistant referee to rule no offence had taken place."
The Guardian:
"56 min: Grealish’s arm was by his side … but well away from his body. Opinions will vary, but you can file that under Seen Them Given. Also under Nobody Knows Anything. VAR says no … but Chelsea don’t even get the corner. Grealish has the good grace to look a little sheepish."
The Independent:
"Chelsea also saw appeals for a penalty waved away in the second-half when Cole Palmer’s free-kick struck Jack Grealish’s arm in the box, before Silva scored a late winner as City kept their FA Cup defence alive."
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Imagine that decision going our way or anyone else but the team that bribes the media, you think the reports would look that way?
Thanks, Jermaine.
You think that’s handball? Pretty normal to jump with your arms out to the side, and then it’s kicked at him with power from short distance. Would hate to see that given against us.
The fact that there's an obvious movement of the arm towards the ball as the ball is about to go underneath his outstretched arm makes it a penalty.
And no, when you're in the wall it's not normal to jump with your arms outwards. Look at the others, don't see them flailing their arm but as the wall breaks his arm goes out, impedes the ball's path with a movement of the arm towards the ball.
no way, it's a full on week talking point
In a defensive wall at a free kick, players don't often jump with their arms outstretched like Christ the redeemer, they cover their balls, face or have them behind their backs.
Or his arm just drops as it would when you’re on your way down again after jumping. It’s hardly an obvious movement towards the ball. You’ve seen them given. I think it would have been a cheap goal.
They decide the outcome of far too many games with their incompetence.
It wasn’t clear to me in real time, so I will have sympathy with the ref there.
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/0GMUCqdbJ7
this one shows the angle that Poch saw it from, and it’s clear. Really unsure why VAR didn’t look into this
It's so normal to jump with your arms outwards that Grealish is the only one doing it.
quick VAR check as well
It’s kicked at him from (surprise surprise) ten yards away.
His right arm doesn’t move, his left arm clearly comes down when looks like ball might sneak past him.
I have no positive feelings towards Chelsea but it’s 100% a penalty. As clear as day.
I cant see what excuse's Dermott comes up with to justify that handball not resulting in a penalty.
It does, because it was.
Ill try not to choke on these words but I’ll give Oliver (the useless cheating w@nker) the benefit of the doubt but not VAR.
He gives a goal kick so it’s by definition an error, then it hits the arm so they HAVE TO call him to the screen and let him make a decision with all the info.
Is there a name for this knot you're twisting yourself into?
VAR probably bottled it because they would have had to give a red card as well
Oliver could've sent off Caicedo for this handball by Grealish and Dermott would justify it easily.
Absolutely shocking not to award a pen for what was clearly an intentional handball
The handball was bad, but I thought Walker on Jackson was a stonewall pen too. It's not shoulder to shoulder, it's shoulder in the back effectively pushing him over. Can't see how it wasn't given.
So Michael Oliver refereeing City again and a few contentious decisions go City's way.
Well if that just ain't aren't isn't.
Well if that just ain't aren't isn't.
Just seen that David Coote is on VAR for the Merseyside Derby in midweek, that cant have gone down well with the Liverpool fans.
"Jack is a lovely lad. You can't give that."
Crazy decision.
Not too concerned about the marginal calls people are moaning at above. Any blame should be placed at Jackson's door. I'm not sure footballer is the best use of his skills.
Walker did same to Rashford in the derby. He's very good at the subtle tactical foul when opponent is running at full pace.
But Grealish jumps, and normally he does so going down with his arms flailing, so it makes sense. And the balls thing - need something to protect.
Oh, you were serious?
I didn't see the match. Nor do I hold any sympathy for Chelsea. But that is one of the clearest penalties you'll see all season. He's standing in the wall - he's aim is to block the ball. He opts do to so by stretching his arm out to the side and handle the ball as it's is going through a gap in the wall.
He was so bad, poor Chelsea fans.
On the plus side it's just another 7 years they can let him leave on a free.