VAR and Refs | General Discussion | May 15: Premier League clubs to vote on proposal to scrap VAR from next season

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Indeed there is. One you seem to be misinterpreting. Obviously doesn’t help that it’s extremely low res but you can still see how the red line has been drawn based on a straight line coming down from his shoulder.
I've just watched it again on Match of the Day in FHD on a big tv. There is no line drawn up to his shoulder. The line ends at the knee because that is the body part the VAR official is saying was offside. If they were saying it was the shoulder, they would've drawn the line up to the shoulder.
 

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I've just watched it again on Match of the Day in FHD on a big tv. There is no line drawn up to his shoulder. The line ends at the knee because that is the body part the VAR official is saying was offside. If they were saying it was the shoulder, they would've drawn the line up to the shoulder.
Feck me. I’m sufficiently argumentative that you made me interrupt the new Game of Thrones to watch MOTD. The line is drawn from his shoulder! It’s a red line drawn over a player wearing red but you can see it clearly enough.
 

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Klopp always cries about everything but they're without any doubt the team that benefitted most from the refereeing/VAR decisions.
Time wasting sports washing tw*ts got what they deserved. The match would have been over like the first two draws we got. If it was any other club than Liverpool winning that you have said justice was served. Klopp moaning to the officials about time wasting is his job just like it was SAFs job decades ago.
 

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What a great night for the Arsenal-Villa refs. With Haaland destroying Forrest and the Liverpool drama, their absolute disasterclass will be go perfectly unnoticed.
Mings making judo moves on Saka in the box, Martinez strangling Jesus for no fecking reason and McGinn throwing an ankle breaker on Odegaard without any consequences.
Except of course the player probably missing our first big game at Old Trafford: no biggy.
 

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Why wasn't VVDs ankle breaker not checked by VAR??
 

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VAR tech provides two lines for offside and lines are in colours of home and away team shirts. But somehow the VAR operators always manage to pick the opposite colours. Mildly infuriating.
 

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Should be a red, above the ankle, potential bone breaker, nasty:


 
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Every week. What a joke of system.

We need explanation. We need mics in that room.
 

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Nothing wrong with it. It's not a clear error either. VAR shouldn't even be involved.

Mendy (again) and James lucky.
 

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Refs need a meeting to sort this out. Are they scared to give a decision against big sides? I’m saying this as a Utd fan but I can’t see any other explanation for what Ive seen today alone
 

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Refs need a meeting to sort this out. Are they scared to give a decision against big sides? I’m saying this as a Utd fan but I can’t see any other explanation for what Ive seen today alone

Looks like it.


I'm big fan of VAR but premier League officials are terrible at it. Not even sure what driving them at times, look at some stuff, then look at other stuff.....but tell everyone been changes and not going to get involved in it
 

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The way it's used in this country is a joke. There needs to be transparency in the decision making, and the refs need to stop being afraid to give those decisions against the big sides. What's the point of playing otherwise?
 

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Zero accountability, so they get away with so much crap. It's a fecking disgrace tbh
 

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How you expect VAR to work with these refs?
 

Fooza

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Hate VAR under these refs seriously it's getting silly now
 

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Didn't they say, for this season, the communications during the VAR decisions will be public/the decision will be explained? something of that sorts
 

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I can't believe the cnut watched it five times and concluded it was a foul
 

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The officials in this country are ridiculous really. No consistency in any decisions from game to game.

Its complete and utter incompetence it really is and I don’t know who else would keep their job if they continually preformed poorly.
 

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Christ the officials fecking suck in this league
Below Sunday league level. I'm fuming so badly I wonder how the clubs own staff and fans are feeling. One of the most ridiculous decisions I've ever seen.
 

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VAR is not the problem, it works in other leagues & international competitions fine. The PL have an issue with letting their officials get away without any accountability. Seems to be an arrogance from the best league in the world.
 

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Either var has to go in the bin or all the refs have to go in the bin. One or the other.
 

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They don't even have their brains engaged when it comes to looking at the monitor. Called to look at monitor = "oh it must mean I need to overturn the decision" 100% of the time. Absolute charlatans. Not to mention the absolute lottery of whether VAR decides to act in the first place.

They manage to make it so hard somehow through their staggering incompetence. It's always seemed more or less fine in internationals and European competitions.
 

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Something needs to be done, that was a disgusting decision. Simply transform it in a non contact sport or feck off with VAR. It's completely ridiculous.
 

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VAR is not the problem, it works in other leagues & international competitions fine. The PL have an issue with letting their officials get away without any accountability. Seems to be an arrogance from the best league in the world.
It is a problem, it's actually making incompetent refs look even more incompetent. If VAR didn't exist today that ref would gave allowed that goal which would have been fine

I'll be all for it when these refs become better, but it won't happen