mu4c_20le
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Wow, didnt expect that from mild mannered dave
Yeah his hands were around his neck for like two seconds trying to push him away. Run the slow mo and zoom in and play it in isolation with some horror music then sure Casemiro was a villainous strangler. In a situation where theres a lot of pushing and physical altercations, you can't give Casemiro red without trying to implicate he tried to hurt the other player, and from the angle - strangling him was what it looked like. Obviously, that's not what happened. It's ridiculous honestly.He had his around around his neck. He wasn’t strangling him but that isn’t the point.
His hands shouldn’t have been anywhere near Hughes neck. Casemiro is 100% at fault and only has himself to blame.
I was just about to mention that Fred got nearly punched in the jaw yet they didn't zoom in to review that. I thought VAR went for a non-involved approach like they've been lately. But to pick and choose to send one player off and not another one is proof of bias. It's not like the ref had the chance to send anyone else off either because he only got to watch the one angle of one situation.I do wonder why mariner wasn't asked to look at this by Var
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Spot on. If that happened 30 minutes earlier in the game - giving a foul wouldn't even have entered his mind. Pure bias at show.That’s disgraceful. It just shows refs follow narratives, it was all about if Palace could score and that’s the lens he viewed it through
Whilst I don’t disagree I think there’s two frustrating elements to this which we keep seeing repeated;When you put your hands in that position you’re putting yourself at risk of getting a red card unfortunately. It didn’t look very ‘violent’ but I can understand the argument for a red and for it to be a yellow. I think the issue is that if it is a red there are a few more cases for a red in the same incident.
Looks like a jewelry thief masquerading as a footballer
This is exactly the angle and replay I've been looking for.
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Great from our coach. I like this. Keep up the pressure. Just put it out. Put out examples. There are lot more he could have brought up.
Agree. I never liked var anyway but this would be a better use of itI’ve said this before, and think it’s a better way to leverage VAR then using still frames etc.
Have the replay done in full speed always, there is no stopping/zooming in etc. The ref has maybe a maximum of 5 times to see an incident if they cannot determine a reason to change the call on the field that it is not conclusive and we carry on.
Not even related to today’s incident but just from an overall standpoint, I think this would be the best.
Yeah, I was just thinking earlier that we need him to mention all the recent injustices and he did exactly that. The elbow on Martinez was so blatant. And miles more violent than what Casemiro did today. He’s putting pressure on the officials for our next matches. Good to see.Great from our coach. I like this. Keep up the pressure. Just put it out. Put out examples. There are lot more he could have brought up.
Pushes the ban into the final. We're better off taking the hit and having him fresh for the Barca matches.Can we appeal?
Gotcha.Pushes the ban into the final. We're better off taking the hit and having him fresh for the Barca matches.
We have been to soft on this. We have been to nice. He needs to keep this up and tell how it is. It is enough of being punching bag.Yeah, I was just thinking earlier that we need him to mention all the recent injustices and he did exactly that. The elbow on Martinez was so blatant. And miles more violent than what Casemiro did today. He’s putting pressure on the officials for our next matches. Good to see.
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Well, obviously but if we fight back he'll be perceived as classless or whatever, somebody making excuses, trying to affect the refs, lacking focus and generally being made an example out of by the f.a. It's not like we only have to moan at the refs and suddenly we get favourable or fair decisions.We have been to soft on this. We have been to nice. He needs to keep this up and tell how it is. It is enough of being punching bag.
He was quite clearly trying to separate them and in the scuffle his hand was placed on Hughes' throat area, but there was no clear deliberate attempt to choke him, imo. He was even motioning him to "calm down" with his hand.
I think the fact that Casemiro was singled out and various others weren’t is dodgy as fekk.Can we appeal?
Yeah, right. Crystal Palace did far worse to Antony with a far more potential for injury than a simple hand on a throat for like 2 seconds at most. Get real.Imagine if the opposition did that to Antony - you’d all be crying murder and asking for criminal charges.
They did. Just check the Fred pictures. It was far more aggressive.Imagine if the opposition did that to Antony - you’d all be crying murder and asking for criminal charges.
You think under the laws of the game that was a red card and Casemiro’s wasn’t?Yeah, right. Crystal Palace did far worse to Antony with a far more potential for injury than a simple hand on a throat for like 2 seconds at most. Get real.
To be fair, I haven’t seen the Fred ones, and it wasn’t clear in the footage earlier so can’t comment on that yet.They did. Just check the Fred pictures. It was far more aggressive.
Yes? On what planet are you living on when someone deliberately pushing another player into the stands (and possibly trying to injure him because Schlupp quite clearly wasn't trying to play for the ball) and then goes to taunt him is less of a red card than a slight hand to the throat with no visible aggressive behavior and trying to calm the situation down?You think under the laws of the game that was a red card and Casemiro’s wasn’t?