DDG has been much more than a competent GK for years for us, is disgraceful to spout shit like that because your memory is only dated for the last 3 years. DDG basically carried our defense for years and let's not talk shit now when he has obviously declined but is yet a solid player unlike some other members of our starting 11.
We haven't had a single competent defender because the club has been run by morons for years after Fergie, blaming that on DDG is absolutely shameful and laughable. And why put Maguire in the same bracket as Lindelof, one is obviously having his uses, the other you would struggle to point out what he brings to the table that any semi average 2 legged PL CB would not.
Carried is a relative term. Did he produce world class saves on a consistent basis? Yes. Did he contribute with anything else besides that? No
The man is timid, doesn't command or organize his defense, his distribution has been lacking, he can't save a penalty if his life depended on it and don't get me started on the crosses. But hey ho, he made some insane saves so we can ignore all of the above. And while we're at it let's also ignore the fact that he was never able to establish himself as Spain's No.1 GK despite Casillas being out of the picture for more than half a decade now.
I remember how fans used to say that if it weren't for De Gea's saves, we would have finished a couple of places below. But there was minority who simply asked would he have to make even half those saves if he was a good all round GK. After last night you probably got an indication that saves aren't the end all be all for GK, just like tackles aren't the best form of defending. Look flashy though!
In moments like these I understand why City are light years ahead of us in planning. They had a similar situation with Given, a gifted shot stopper, but lacking in every other department. And did they do? They moved him on the moment a more rounded Hart became available. As a result their team improved significantly, especially at the back.
Regards to Lindelof, if he was as bad as you claim that he is, would he be our mainstay CB under both Jose and Ole? Ole had to chose between him and Smalling. And Smalling went out the door. Lindelof clearly knows what he is doing, otherwise he wouldn't be playing. He also wouldn't be able to keep people like Vardy and Aubamayang quiet for whole games if he was a waste of space. Now I get it when you don't like a certain player, but don't let the bias cloud your judgement. Lindelof isn't perfect as I said before, but the amount of abuse he gets is just mind boggling.