I think Leicester are the top inform team across all of Europe’s top leagues since they went on the winning spree at the end of last season.
Not against Newcastle, Spurs maybe but even that's remote for Chelsea and City
I said much the same to @Alock1 in his podcast post. People remember that season as if we were stellar all the way through. We weren't, and this season's PL performances thus far are very reminiscent of 07/08. In fact, in 08/09 we lost to Burnley at home as well in the second game of the season. The last time we won the league we lost to Everton in the first game of the season also. Early season results don't matter as much. As long as we're building towards something, then we should be in a good place to challenge.
There were some clear reasons for that start though. We had new attacking players in Nani and Tevez settling in while our best attacking player Ronaldo was out injured at the start and even Saha who played his part in 06/07 season was not part of the plans anymore due to his fitness.
What a ridiculously simplistic way of watching football. We created twice the amount of chances yesterday as we did in the other games put together.
He knows that, he's just being negative. Anyone who is watching us knows that.
It's also worse, considering the title was wrapped up when you played West Brom, and you were destroyed by Man City. Points only tell some of the story. Obviously Chelsea will improve though, considering they can't really get any worse. WBA should be a comprehensive win, as they looked absolute useless in their other games.
That's the thing, I'm starting to believe that a lot of posters on here don't watch the matches but base their opinions on results and the media.
How many saves did their keeper have to make over the 90 minutes?
Apparently 3 saves.
Exactly, I really didn't see all the so called "chances created" that people are speaking of. After their naive 20 minutes they shut us out unbelievably easily which is worrying because defensively Newcastle would be one of the weakest we will face.
Huh? last season the highest average of saves per game was Fabianski with 3.41, in the 5 best leagues. 3 is a lot.
More than Vorm and Guzan did. I just think it's ridiculous to deny our attacking fluency has improved on the basis of us not scoring. Yesterday was frustrating but it was just one of those days where our final ball and finishing wasn't quite there. We had enough chances to win the game comfortably and the performance was significantly better than our first two games.
This. I remember two to three chances created, yesterday. Hernandez, Mata (near post) and the Smalling header (if you want).
We should be making the keeper make 15 saves per game and winning every game 7-0
We had one shot on target against Spurs and Guzan did not have a save to make. With regards to our final ball and finishing not being there, it hasn't been there with a long time and and reinforcements are clearly needed.
Krul had one decent/ very good save to make. In 90 minutes at home to Newcastle. In terms of chances, the Chica chance came from a lucky ricochet while Smallings header from a set piece. In terms of chances "created" we actually created very little.
We also had several other chances, we hit the post and had a good goal disallowed. But let's just forget about them shall we.
Yeah but.........shut the feck up
Fair enough, we are shit, we created a fair amount of opportunities but it was luck.
The discussion is about chances "created". Smallings came from from a set piece, Rooneys goal was disallowed after 3 minutes, we created next to nothing for the rest of the game. Key word being created.
Oh, sorry, I didn't realise we couldn't count chances created after 3 minutes, or chances created by free kicks. Is there anything else we have to discount so it suits your argument, you know, so we don't make a fool of ourselves.
Not what I said also I see you don't mention of the chances you think we apparently did create which reinforces my point. Without attacking reinforcements we cannot win anything playing this way we just won't create enough.
Remember two myself. Mata's shot and the Hernandez chance. Then there were off the line clearances and a couple of last ditch blocks. Obviously we were not clinical but we carved them up enough times.
I didn't say you could discount the Rooney chance I said why didn't we create anything else over the course of the next 90 minutes if you include extra time. You can go again if you want.
Why mention it being after 3 minutes then?
Going by your comment about the last two decades of success you are probably around the same age as myself so like me you probably can't remember a United side as boring and monotonous to watch as the one we have now. That is/has been my gripe and I don't see it improving and you cannot win the Premier League with an attacking system as blunt as ours.
Obviously the only thing that counts is goals, but if you compare where we are now to where we were at the beginning of the last two seasons you'll see more shots, more shots on goal and, although it's not trendy, more possession.
Two great opportunities agreed. One from a set piece and another from a lucky ricochet. If they went in and we won my issue with our attacking prowess would still be relevant to me. As I said already I was discussing what chances we actually created through decent attacking football of bar the Rooney disallowed goal I saw none. The result as I have said is not my issue yesterday it's the constant bluntness of our attacking system.
I don't find this side boring in the first place, to even go further on that. Yesterday I was on the edge of my seat for most parts of the game.
Each to their own as they say.
Very much so.
Can't wait for the next game to see more of the same, with hopefully a little less nervousness in front of goal, the only thing missing as of now for me.
