ShadesOfTomato
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Good player.
Honestly not even sure why you're commenting on this thread anymore when you proved in your last message you don't even watch us much or watch him much. I get you're a United fan so it's standard to attempt to put Liverpool players down but maybe try and do that by using the truth instead of just making up rubbish and making yourself look silly in the process.He's a good defender and that's about it. Nowhere near world class, and would probably be someone you'd upgrade if you wanted to build the best team you could. The reality is that Liverpool paid well over the odds for him because of the tapping up debacle, and now the fans are trying to make him out to be someone he isnt.
It's John Stones all over again, makes game changing mistakes too often, but people are trying to turn him into a better player by sheer force of will. Liverpool fans will slowly realize this, when Lovren is no longer in the team to make everyone other defender look good.
IronicHe's a good defender and that's about it. Nowhere near world class, and would probably be someone you'd upgrade if you wanted to build the best team you could. The reality is that Liverpool paid well over the odds for him because of the tapping up debacle, and now the fans are trying to make him out to be someone he isnt.
It's John Stones all over again, makes game changing mistakes too often, but people are trying to turn him into a better player by sheer force of will. Liverpool fans will slowly realize this, when Lovren is no longer in the team to make everyone other defender look good.
Based on what I’ve seen of us this season, we’ve been better defensively with Van Dijk than we were without him.I think this is a bit overstated by Liverpool fans, probably because of Mignolet's blunders and perhaps being worse last season. This season Liverpool haven't been bad defending set pieces and you've conceded almost as many from penalties.
And that ties into not rotating our goalies anymore.Based on what I’ve seen of us this season, we’ve been better defensively with Van Dijk than we were without him.
Trolls will trollHe's a good defender and that's about it. Nowhere near world class, and would probably be someone you'd upgrade if you wanted to build the best team you could. The reality is that Liverpool paid well over the odds for him because of the tapping up debacle, and now the fans are trying to make him out to be someone he isnt.
It's John Stones all over again, makes game changing mistakes too often, but people are trying to turn him into a better player by sheer force of will. Liverpool fans will slowly realize this, when Lovren is no longer in the team to make everyone other defender look good.
That is definitely true. No Migs has made us look a lot more assured at the back.[QUOTE="Sylar, post: 22367999, member: 26997"]I think not having Mignolet is also a good thing. Im still not sure about Karius but maybe with time he will get there (dont know too much about him). But Mignolet is not a goalkeeper you want behind you if youre a defender.
Troll calling someone else as troll.Trolls will troll
De Gea was exceptional in shot stopping. He had a bit of an issue with getting caught out in set pieces but no one could deny that he was exceptional while making saves. No one was surprised he got a second season.That is definitely true. No Migs has made us look a lot more assured at the back.
As for Karius I think he will come good for us, Now don't get me wrong I'm not comparing the two but I remember De Gea in his first season. There was no way you could have imagined he would become the keeper he has (No.1 in the world for me), In fact I'm sure some were surprised he got a second season. Again I must state before some think I am suggesting Karius will become that kind of quality, I'm not, I'm just saying I would like Karius to be given a chance next season and see where he goes from there especially if we get another quality CB to partner VVD
As for VVD, I think the guy oozes class. As mentioned before he can be to casual on the ball sometimes and the mistakes he has made being mentioned a few of those did come in his first few games for us and the Lamela penalty for me was more about Lamela jumping in front of VVD to win the pen with no intention to get the ball. Not all accidents are mistakes by the way.
He was a great keeper that is why you bought him but that first season he was very light weight and got bullied rotten.De Gea was exceptional in shot stopping. He had a bit of an issue with getting caught out in set pieces but no one could deny that he was exceptional while making saves. No one was surprised he got a second season.
Indeed, he had his poor moments but his talent was blatant.De Gea was exceptional in shot stopping. He had a bit of an issue with getting caught out in set pieces but no one could deny that he was exceptional while making saves. No one was surprised he got a second season.
I'm just saying he didn't magically transform your set pieces defending from shit to good. You also have to note that since he got there both Robertson and TAA have been regulars at the full back position so there has been less rotation there as well. Before Christmas Klopp was rotating all the back 5 positions.Based on what I’ve seen of us this season, we’ve been better defensively with Van Dijk than we were without him.
Oh no, one over hit free kick, what will we do. Let’s send him back. Let me go find a De Gea goal kick he kicked out of play...Abysmal free kick. Stepped up like the big man and hit a pathetic effort.
I wasn't referring to that one, I was referring top the tepid shot on goal he had from one in the first half. If defender is going to get all Billy big bananas and take free kicks then you have to delivery something more than a simple catch for the keeper. The one in the second half was worse! VVD is a good defender, he strengthens Liverpool on set pieces and plays out quite well but he still makes more errors than you would expect from a real elite level CB.Oh no, one over hit free kick, what will we do. Let’s send him back. Let me go find a De Gea goal kick he kicked out of play...
This nitpicking from you guys over Van Dijk is hilarious and embarrassing at the same time :’) Need to find a new hobby pal :’)
Smalling got shit for being physically dominated by Kompany. Correctly. Van Dijk is bigger than either and just got pushed around by a frail child.A man of his size trying to convince the ref that he’s been fouled by the giant that is Raheem Sterling
Most expensive too.Most over rated CB on the planet.
At least Mike doesnt really think he can pass ..Very poor mans Mike Smalling.
Hes worse than that, he's the poor man's chris smalling.Very poor mans Mike Smalling.
Not crap but not great.By the way he isn’t crap. He’s brought a lot of calm to our defence, but has had a bad start tonight.
Definitely needs to be less lazy at times.
Far from £75 million great I agree.Not crap but not great.
Does anyone who isn’t a Liverpool fan believe that?There are people who believe he is the best CB in the country.
I've been a fan since his Celtic days but the transfer fee was beyond insane. He's always been prone to lapses of concentration and trying to overdo it with the ball at his feet. There's no denying he's generally been a good signing so far.Far from £75 million great I agree.