He's one of the most un-United players you have. I’d even say he goes against the grain of most modern full backs. Any Prem team playing wing backs would surely not even consider him, so he needs to find a manager who plays a traditional 4-4-2 with wingers getting forward in wide areas. Footballers can (and do) change how they play, but you’ve had him 5 years. If it was going to happen it surely would have.
your argument/point has changed. I am specifically calling you up on saying "he has a nosebleed when he crosses the halfway line" and "he cannot beat a man". Both of which are hyperbolic nonsense. Just admit it and lets move on.AWB doesn't make overlapping runs, he doesn't cross into the box, he runs out of ideas in the final 3rd, and passes the ball backwards. I watch him from my seat at Old Trafford every week. Defensively, he is often out of position, cannot hold a line with the back 4, cannot defend the back post for corners or crosses.
You only have to watch Coventry's 4 goals at Wembley. AWB was involved in all of them. Lost his man for the first cross. Turned his back and deflected the ball into his own net, gave a penalty away, and for the forth, he was a toenail away from playing them onside. All the other defenders were playing a higher line.
He's very clearly good enough for many of the teams in the prem. Just not suited to what we are trying to do.
The first point is a figure of speech, which you use to describe players who have no attacking ability. They are not creative, or pose an attacking threat. AWB is one of these types of players.
I completely agree but teams with money play more progressive with the ball.
The prem has money, we'd be looking at 10-15 million maybe? That's cheap.
In the 5 years he's been here I don't think I've ever seen him communicate on the pitch so you might be onto something
The reality is he's fine as a squad player, there are far worse issues in the team than having AWB as a 2nd choice RB. Yes, he cost big money but - let's think about it - £50m for 5+ years of service on a not too ridiculous wage isn't the end of the world. It's not good business but it's not terrible.
Hahahahahaha, you are on some sort of wind up?
He's not though, because when you have to play him, the way you set your right hand side up completely changes. You need to have a profile that fits how you're trying to shape your team, because when you rotate or an injury happens, the whole team goes lopsided.
You said give you one example of him beating a man and crossing. Unless you’re blind, I win
Frimpong is a tricky one. Think he'd be left exposed in a back 4. He often gets covered by his CB for Leverkusen as they play 3 at the back. Think he'd be better as a RW for us. If Wan Bissaka is indeed leaving he could be utilized in a deal with any of the Crystal Palace players we are interested in.
His goals stats seem outrageous for a full back and considering how Dalot and AwB sometimes find themselves the furthest players forward in this crazy system, it might not be a bad shout. A worry defensively though, as others have stated.
And people write these long lists of exits each summer, forgetting we often struggle to bring 3 or 4 in each summer, let alone triple that.
And this is what has to stop, he’s not good enough and is way too limited. He either gets sold this summer or leaves on a free next summer, either way you have to sign a replacement.
Neville has 5 goals and 35 assists in 400 appearances across his premier league career and he’s considered the one of the greatest premier league right backs.
In fairness the game, and the fullback's role in it, have changed significantly since then.
Can you name anyone else who does any of this lately?
Luke Shaw has 17 assists and 3 goals in 251 appearances. Similar rate to Wan Bissaka. I’m not saying Wan Bissaka is as effective attacking wise as either Shaw or even Neville but those numbers don’t really make that case.
This is a bit of an unfair comparison considering Neville had Beckham in front of him for the vast majority games.
Fair point re the comparison stats-wise but AWB shortcomings going forward are pretty obvious just from watching him play. Yet another average player that we overpaid for. Hopefully a trend that stops with the new senior management team.
He's obviously not as bad as some of you/them make out, that much is obviouse and it only hinders your points most of the time as.... why exaggerate?
Exactly.
It's not his poor form that is the issue though, it's the wild swings in performance and you can't rely on which Wan Bissaka will turn up. He has the potential to shut down world class wingers on his day, but then he can't control a ball the next game and is playing everyone onside. That's not a good player to have in your squad. You need a more consistent performer, even if his top performances aren't as good as Wan Bissaka's best.
