Were Liverpool that good in the 80's? (from the newbies)

Marcosdeto

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bv0000 said:
I have no rights to post in the other forums, so I do it here.
Are there here any older fans who have seen Liverpool play in the late 70's and the 80's who can tell us if they were as good as we in the 90's? Were they so convincing, did they play attractive, attacking football? I here they were a bit boring and still winning. Something like Chelsea are at the moment.
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so?
 
yes they were great, all through the 80's , the first half of the decade with that team with Hansen and Lawrenson at the back were just amazing from back to front, then the team that dalgeish put together with houghton, beardsley , aldridge and barnes as a front four were great to watch ... the nearest to us at our best with a stength that arsenal have never manged except maybe with viera and petit in the middle (altho i have heard this argued I don't really agree)
 
i remember watching them lose against independiente in the intercontinental cup back in 1984 and they didn't impress me much, but i wont rate them over one single game
 
marcosdeto said:
i remember watching them lose against independiente in the intercontinental cup back in 1984 and they didn't impress me much, but i wont rate them over one single game
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wouldnt take that as much of a judge on anything. we were a frightenly good side for about 15 years, the team of the late 70's early 80's was totally dominant both home and abroad. Kennys team of 88 was the best to watch though, a fantastic footballing side that battered everyone we played. the one game that sticks out from that season was the 5-0 demolition of forest, who were second at the time. probably the most complete footballing performance i have ever seen, it could have been 10 or 12 that night.
 
Fred the bin dipper said:
wouldnt take that as much of a judge on anything. we were a frightenly good side for about 15 years, the team of the late 70's early 80's was totally dominant both home and abroad. Kennys team of 88 was the best to watch though, a fantastic footballing side that battered everyone we played. the one game that sticks out from that season was the 5-0 demolition of forest, who were second at the time. probably the most complete footballing performance i have ever seen, it could have been 10 or 12 that night.
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I'm guessing you didn't catch our 7-1 win over Roma last year.;)

Liverpool were a great side in the late 70s and 80s but it was only towards the end that they played great attacking football. Daglish was their Cantona if you will. Completely revitalised their style of play.
 
Of course they were a fantastic side or they wouldn't have succeeded like they did.

Daft question really. You don't fluke that much success in that short of a period of time.

Yes, they were more defensive than we are (and we joke about them being boring and backpassing their way to the league trophy), but they had some great attacking players as well.
 
Aye they were a very good side. Luckily for me I wasn't around to watch them dominate. Another sign, if another was needed, that I am blessed by God.
 
I remember having a conversation with few mates while watching United during their 90's run and compared them to the Scousers of the 70's and 80's and was vilified for it by some of them. However, those Scousers in shouting distance all agreed with me although they did concede that Pool weren't as dynamic but more compact than the 90's United sides for the most part. The one constant between the two clubs was the philosophy of playing the ball quickly along the floor using passing movements to create goal scoring chances.
 
Let's be honest, yes, they were during the late 70s/80s. Very good. They dominated like United did in the 90s, they could be very entertaining and yet grind out the one-nillers when necessary. I've supported United for more than 40 years and those were truly bleak days............
 
There wasn't that much coverage of English footy in Israel back in those times, but from the bits I got to see they were playing great football. In particular, I remember the era of Beardsley-Barnes-Houghton-Aldridge et al.

It wasn't easy following United through those years, but fans who've been through it appreciate better the success we've been having for 15 years now. I'd think there aren't many of them among the feckwits who call for dropping/selling/hanging players 3 games into a new season.
 
Were Liverpool that good ?

( prepares to make himself physically sick by saying it )

Yes they were..

One side stands out though above all the rest, and thats the 1984 team.

I hate saying this, but one of the best teams i've ever seen. They had it all...

Much as how I loathe them, I have to say between 77 and 84, there wasnt a team could touch them...
 
Fred the bin dipper said:
wouldnt take that as much of a judge on anything. we were a frightenly good side for about 15 years, the team of the late 70's early 80's was totally dominant both home and abroad. Kennys team of 88 was the best to watch though, a fantastic footballing side that battered everyone we played. the one game that sticks out from that season was the 5-0 demolition of forest, who were second at the time. probably the most complete footballing performance i have ever seen, it could have been 10 or 12 that night.
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yes, I believe that was the season when United came from behind with ten men to draw at Anfield with Whiteside battering McMahon off the ball, you're right, it was fantastic.
 
raven_blade2002 said:
Im glad I wasnt around then. The humliation would gave been too much to live with.
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I dont think humiliation came into it. I'd grown up seeing an underachieving United, and finishing second or third was seen as doing well, in stark contrast to today where if you dont finish top its the worst thing that could happen..

Expectations were lower back then. Even the FA cup seemed a long shot which we may get into if we did well. Nowadays if we dont get to the final it has people sobbing into their beer...

As we've said before, United fans expect too much these days. When it doesnt happen its seen as a big problem.
 
fredthered said:
Were Liverpool that good ?

( prepares to make himself physically sick by saying it )

Yes they were..

One side stands out though above all the rest, and thats the 1984 team.

I hate saying this, but one of the best teams i've ever seen. They had it all...

Much as how I loathe them, I have to say between 77 and 84, there wasnt a team could touch them...
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Well, at least three of those years were taken up by Forest and Villa respectively, who also won the European Cup of course, so whilst being dominant, not as much as you make them out, don't make them out to be better Fred, you only encourage them.
United, however, were dominant nine out of fourteen years.
 
jasonrh said:
Of course they were a fantastic side or they wouldn't have succeeded like they did.

Daft question really. You don't fluke that much success in that short of a period of time.

Yes, they were more defensive than we are (and we joke about them being boring and backpassing their way to the league trophy), but they had some great attacking players as well.
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Sad thing is for people like us Jason,is that we never got to watch them did we? After I moved here ,I had to hear it from my relatives back home and read the papers every Sunday to catch results.
Thank god for technology now.
 
njred said:
Sad thing is for people like us Jason,is that we never got to watch them did we? After I moved here ,I had to hear it from my relatives back home and read the papers every Sunday to catch results.
Thank god for technology now.
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when did you move to New Joyzee? Watched first episode of last Sopranos last night, was pretty good, saw nowt of last series as daft Channel Nine over here played it at midnight
 
fredthered said:
As we've said before, United fans expect too much these days. When it doesnt happen its seen as a big problem.
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Maybe that's true, i don't know.

Personally, in the last few years I have never been that arsed when we lost the league to Arsenal, because they deserved it.
My problem recently has been losing to Chelsea. I just can not abide it.

But back to the thread.....yes, Liverpool during the late 70s and early 80s were a fantastic team, and won everything several times, there's no question about that. Also, I think one of those seasons they won the league and the European cup using just 15 players.
 
Johnno said:
yes, I believe that was the season when United came from behind with ten men to draw at Anfield with Whiteside battering McMahon off the ball, you're right, it was fantastic.
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you believe right. didnt really matter though, we cantered the league and you lot won nothing.
 
I remember it as Rush, pen 89 too... but having gone over this with sutty, it appears Rush never took penalties

Don't know how they got us thinking that... probably just another example of the power of evil to influence the mind
 
Plechazunga said:
I remember it as Rush, pen 89 too... but having gone over this with sutty, it appears Rush never took penalties

Don't know how they got us thinking that... probably just another example of the power of evil to influence the mind
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Rush did score a lof of last minute goals. except against you lot, were for some bizarre reason he couldnt score at all.
 
if i were to list the top English teams i've seen over the years, mine would be........

1. United - 1993-1994 (The Best)
2. Forest - Late 70s. (The Best team other than United i've seen play at Old Trafford)
3. Liverpool - Mid 80s (Very hard to beat)
4. Leeds - Early/Mid 70s (Dirty but very effective)
 
roxyfella said:
if i were to list the top English teams i've seen over the years, mine would be........

1. United - 1993-1994 (The Best)
2. Forest - Late 70s. (The Best team other than United i've seen play at Old Trafford)
3. Liverpool - Mid 80s (Very hard to beat)
4. Leeds - Early/Mid 70s (Dirty but very effective)
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yes, but in all fairness, thats just a nonsensical bitter post. the United team of between 99 and 01 was the best you lot had. Liverpools sides of 77, 84 or 88 were better than anything Forest ever came up with
 
Best teams I've seen

In no particular order:

United 93/94
United late 90's - early 00's
Arsenal 2-3 years ago
Liverpool mid - to late 80's
 
Fred the bin dipper said:
yes, but in all fairness, thats just a nonsensical bitter post. the United team of between 99 and 01 was the best you lot had. Liverpools sides of 77, 84 or 88 were better than anything Forest ever came up with
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Like i said, it's just my opinion. I'm not denying that Liverpool were a great team, they were very consistent over a long period, But the Forest team of the Late 70s were easier on the eye, and remember, Cloughie took a team from the 2nd division, to 1st Division Champions and European Cup Winners virtually overnight. They were Awesome for a couple of seasons.
 
i'm stunned that Liverpool won so much and dominated at home and abroad for a decade, with such a poor side. we were either very lucky or very good.
 
I don't think there's much to choose between these sides... it's gonna come down to partiality

For sheer joyful, attacking football, the 93-5 United side. For all-round style, teamwork and effectiveness, Liverpool in the eighties and United at the turn of the millenium.

I can't really remember the Forest team
 
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