What has Fergie to say?

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Feck me Mozza, you are and always has been a fecking idiot.

You know feck all about what Sir Alex have told or not told the players, so why the feck do you insist on telling all and everyone what he has told them?
He's actually Arsene Wenger, and was peeping over their bathroom stalls wearing nothing but a plastic raincoat.
 

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How the feck do you know that? Where you in the dressing room.

Never ceases to amaze me the amount of fecking spastics who always assume that the way the players perform on the pitch is done nothing more than the manager's tactical advice. You cnuts think footballers are like robots who you can programme with code.

It's an FM mentality, which could only ever be spouted by feeble nerd, who've never played a competitive sport in their life.

Anyone who's ever played sport at any sort of level knows that, once the whistle blows, things often pan out very differently to how your manager planned. And problems are more likely to come from players failing to implement a game-plan than a flawed game-plan in the first place.

Gets right on my tits. The most irritating (and widespread) lunacy on the caf.
too fecking right!!!

i blame video games for this.
 

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Feck me Mozza, you are and always has been a fecking idiot.

You know feck all about what Sir Alex have told or not told the players, so why the feck do you insist on telling all and everyone what he has told them?
I watched the game, I judged what Sir Alex said based on that, you've not got the bollocks to have an opinion about anything.
 

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But Pogue, Fergie looked at their exhaustion and morale ratings and it all worked fine.

He even ran through a couple of simulations and it worked out 6-0.
 

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you've not got the bollocks to have an opinion about anything.
Opinion is one thing, and is something I have plenty of.

Presenting your opinion as if they were facts, is the work of a spastic. Which you are.
 

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Can't deny how negative you were in that first half Pogue.Surely a side with as much ability as United can out up a better show than that?Tobe fair, your midfield was sorted out by theirs from the start..only in the second half did you get something going.Still, I can understand some posters being disappointed with this.You're capable of much better.
Of course we were capable of playing much better. I'm taking issue with teh spastic who seem to claming that we played like a sack of shit under direct instructions from Fergie.

We were nervous as hell and got knocked out of our stride by Essien, Ballack and Mikel - who were on fire - then we basically got dominated, by a very good side. Which happens in football.
 

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No, he'd have told the midfield they need to be sure to shield the back 4, he'd have told his defence to play deep, those two combined would open the gap between the midfield and attack. I'm sure he'd have wanted the midfield to get forward but by the time they get up to attack any move would have broken down and the opposition would be attacking
:lol:

Yes, that's exactly what he said, word for word.

You're a clown sometimes, you really are.
 

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Of course we were capable of playing much better. I'm taking issue with teh spastic who seem to claming that we played like a sack of shit under direct instructions from Fergie.

We were nervous as hell and got knocked out of our stride by Essien, Ballack and Mikel - who were on fire - then we basically got dominated, by a very good side. Which happens in football.
For 45 minutes when things suddenly changed after 15 minute chat with the manager, do you really think whatever Fergie said had no effect on the game?
 

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Opinion is one thing, and is something I have plenty of.

Presenting your opinion as if they were facts, is the work of a spastic. Which you are.
Do you want me to stick the words 'in my opinion' before every post I write? I'm obviously not going to know the exact words but I can make a guess based on what I see on the pitch.
 

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Do you want me to stick the words 'in my opinion' before every post I write? I'm obviously not going to know the exact words but I can make a guess based on what I see on the pitch.
Chelsea had to win the game, and went out to put us under pressure from the start, and succeeded in doing so by playing very well. Drogba was superb, and the players around him did very well in their movement. Chelsea is a very good team with very good players, and when it clicks like it did today, it is diffuclt for any team to face them.
 

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Chelsea had to win the game, and went out to put us under pressure from the start, and succeeded in doing so by playing very well. Drogba was superb, and the players around him did very well in their movement. Chelsea is a very good team with very good players, and when it clicks like it did today, it is diffuclt for any team to face them.
It's funny how they only clicked for the 45 minutes we were sitting back
 

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Chelsea had to win the game, and went out to put us under pressure from the start, and succeeded in doing so by playing very well. Drogba was superb, and the players around him did very well in their movement. Chelsea is a very good team with very good players, and when it clicks like it did today, it is diffuclt for any team to face them.
Chelsea didn't play particularly well especially the front three (Kalou and Cole were pants) - you were just very timid. I thought Carrick, Fletcher and Anderson were all poor which conceded the midfield especially in the first half.
 

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For 45 minutes when things suddenly changed after 15 minute chat with the manager, do you really think whatever Fergie said had no effect on the game?
You've heard of the "hairdryer", right? You're not seriously suggesting our second-half improvement was down to some subtle, tactical tweaks? They picked up their new game because he threatened to tear them all new arseholes if they didn't!

Honestly, Mozza, I think you should stop following football until players are replaced by robots. You'd like that. Unfortunately, the human element seems to be something you can't get your head round. The psychology of competitive sport goes right over your head.
 

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Chelsea didn't play particularly well especially the front three (Kalou and Cole were pants) - you were just very timid. I thought Carrick, Fletcher and Anderson were all poor which conceded the midfield especially in the first half.
Fletcher was class.

Only a matter of time before the bitter gooners started down-playing Chelsea's efforts. Surprised it took you this long to get involved.
 

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It's funny how they only clicked for the 45 minutes we were sitting back
A team can't keep that kind of pressure up for 90 mins. If you had ever played football, you'd known that.

Also, the fact that they scored just before the break, probably means they were more cautious coming out for the second half.
 

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Chelsea didn't play particularly well especially the front three (Kalou and Cole were pants) - you were just very timid. I thought Carrick, Fletcher and Anderson were all poor which conceded the midfield especially in the first half.
Joe Cole's movement throughout the first half was superb.

Fletcher played well.
 

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A team can't keep that kind of pressure up for 90 mins. If you had ever played football, you'd known that.

Also, the fact that they scored just before the break, probably means they were more cautious coming out for the second half.
We changed our mentality too. Football's a funny game.
 

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You've heard of the "hairdryer", right? You're not seriously suggesting our second-half improvement was down to some subtle, tactical tweaks? They picked up their new game because he threatened to tear them all new arseholes if they didn't!

Honestly, Mozza, I think you should stop following football until players are replaced by robots. You'd like that. Unfortunately, the human element seems to be something you can't get your head round. The psychology of competitive sport goes right over your head.
No amount of shouting would have got the defence to play a higher line
 

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A team can't keep that kind of pressure up for 90 mins. If you had ever played football, you'd known that.

Also, the fact that they scored just before the break, probably means they were more cautious coming out for the second half.
They weren't that good in the first half, it only took us attacking a little to show that we were set up wrong
 

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No, its funny how you can't make the obvious link between them "clicking" and us being forced into "sitting back"
We were not forced to sit back, you saw that in the second half when we grew a pair and trusted the defence to defend with out a blanket in front of them and no space behind
 

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No amount of shouting would have got the defence to play a higher line
Oh I give up.

You're relentless. You really believe that playing football is like playing some sort of computer game, where the outcome is decided by who is best at programming mindless androids to into various tactics and formations.

Bizarre that you should end up supporting a team that is led by the greatest man-manager in the modern game. So much of what he does best goes right over your head. Which is a shame really.
 

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They weren't that good in the first half, it only took us attacking a little to show that we were set up wrong
I don't think you realise it takes two to tango.

You seem to think that it's all up to United and how United DECIDES to play what determines the outcome of a game.

If a team plays deep, there might be one of two reasons for it:

1) The team sets out to play like that

or

2) The other team plays well and forces the team to defend deep

there are obviously various degrees of combinations of them two.
 

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Oh I give up.

You're relentless. You really believe that playing football is like playing some sort of computer game, where the outcome is decided by who is best at programming mindless androids to into various tactics and formations.

Bizarre that you should end up supporting a team that is led by the greatest man-manager in the modern game. So much of what he does best goes right over your head. Which is a shame really.
Players aren't mindless but they do take and follow instruction, that is what a manager does.
 

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I don't think you realise it takes two to tango.

You seem to think that it's all up to United and how United DECIDES to play what determines the outcome of a game.

If a team plays deep, there might be one of two reasons for it:

1) The team sets out to play like that

or

2) The other team plays well and forces the team to defend deep

there are obviously various degrees of combinations of them two.
That's fair, I reckon we started deep and where pushed deeper by Chelsea, the first is Fergies fault
 

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If it was all down to the manager's instructions, we would win every game.
Obviously not, but to pretend that Fergie had nothing to do with that negative first half display (following on from an equally negative performance against Barca) and all it took was him shouting to turn it around is silly.
 

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You know feck all about football
It takes one to know one, I believe.

You've heard of the "hairdryer", right? You're not seriously suggesting our second-half improvement was down to some subtle, tactical tweaks? They picked up their new game because he threatened to tear them all new arseholes if they didn't!

Honestly, Mozza, I think you should stop following football until players are replaced by robots. You'd like that. Unfortunately, the human element seems to be something you can't get your head round. The psychology of competitive sport goes right over your head.
Spot on.

He's an ubermuppet of epic proportions. He's probably replaying the game on his Wii to prove that Fergie is the sole reason that we lost today. Mind you, the cheat codes help him out a bit.
 

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Obviously not, but to pretend that Fergie had nothing to do with that negative first half display (following on from an equally negative performance against Barca) and all it took was him shouting to turn it around is silly.
He was on the pitch himself in the first half - you didn't see him because he accumulated enough World Of Warcraft money to buy a cloak of invisibility.
 

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Obviously not, but to pretend that Fergie had nothing to do with that negative first half display (following on from an equally negative performance against Barca) and all it took was him shouting to turn it around is silly.
We don't know what and how United intended to set out to play.

And if you have played football (have you?), you would have known that the break and what the coaches and players say can totally change a team's performance.
 

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You never talk about football, your only contribution to the football forums is to call people muppets, stick to the general, there's nothing for you here.
Better not talk about football if you have no clue.

You should take note.