Top half finish.
What is the absolute minimum that United should achieve next season?
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Top 4 with improved style of football, one that shows improvement and we can all see what we're building towards.
Safety
What happens if the team doesn’t reach this “minimum”? Do we start supporting a different team?
Entertainment.
If we're gonna be shit then at least make us fun to watch. Give Jones a bonus for every time he dives towards someone's feet/the ball with his head first, and pay Jesse to come up with a new dance every time he touches the ball.
If we're gonna be shit then at least make us fun to watch. Give Jones a bonus for every time he dives towards someone's feet/the ball with his head first, and pay Jesse to come up with a new dance every time he touches the ball.
Bare minimum is top 4. But in 6 years the club has fallen apart.
I'd like a trophy. Lots of running and pressing during actual games. Drama free season.
Think I'm not that demanding.
Think I'm not that demanding.
Relegation
I agree. The tragedy is that the expectations of many United fans are so low. I don't know whether that is because we want to insulate ourselves from the prospect of disappointment or whether it's because we want to be pleasantly surprised if we turn out to be successful. Pretty sad state of affairs to be honest.
4th is achievable
City and Liverpool are miles better than anything we can imagine
Probably in our history
City and Liverpool are miles better than anything we can imagine
Probably in our history
It's funny because it's true. Honestly cant see us getting top 6 next season. I think we will finish between 6-10th
We aren't getting top four.
Unless we don't make a few decent signings very very soon, then I honestly don't think I'd blame Ole if we finished 6th and played awful football.
We're that bad.
We're that bad.
Exactly my answer was very serious. Pains me to say it. Even if we keep Pogba and Lukaku, they don’t want to be here. We were so poor last season for final 3 months and I can’t see us starting well with the first two fixtures. I may not be a barrel of fun and positivity but personally I’m at my lowest ebb in 30 plus years supporting. I think 6th will be the best we achieve unless some miraculous signings over the next 7 weeks.
Top 4 has to be the minimum really. Especially with Arsenal's financial constraints coupled with Chelsea's loss of Hazard...
Also think Spurs will struggle more next season with the possible loss of Eriksen and improvement of Leicester, Wolves, West Ham etc.
Also think Spurs will struggle more next season with the possible loss of Eriksen and improvement of Leicester, Wolves, West Ham etc.
Option 2 or 4 for me. I want to enjoy watching United again.
The signing of James and potential signings of other young talent suggests Ole wants to buy players who will buy in and adapt to his philosophy. Therefore, I expect to see a certain way of playing, which, if im honest, couldn't always see at the back end of last season.
It may take a couple of seasons to see results follow our improved performances, but we need to take baby steps.
If you look at Klopp and Liverpool, whilst Klopp stamped down his philosophy, results didn't always follow, and its only the season just gone that we saw more consistency from Liverpool in the league.
The signing of James and potential signings of other young talent suggests Ole wants to buy players who will buy in and adapt to his philosophy. Therefore, I expect to see a certain way of playing, which, if im honest, couldn't always see at the back end of last season.
It may take a couple of seasons to see results follow our improved performances, but we need to take baby steps.
If you look at Klopp and Liverpool, whilst Klopp stamped down his philosophy, results didn't always follow, and its only the season just gone that we saw more consistency from Liverpool in the league.
Somewhere between 7th and 10th, no more, unless there is a massive, serious clear out and some decent signings
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Top 6.
Top 4 should be achievable considering Chelsea have a transfer ban and have lost Hazard, and Arsenal aren't much better and are yet to strengthen. Likewise we could be 5/6/7th.
If we can improve the starting 11 with more signings then I'd be more optimistic of Top 4.
If we can improve the starting 11 with more signings then I'd be more optimistic of Top 4.
Having seen how the squad overhaul has gone so far, bit of a cup run, aim for the top 6 and plucky performances against the top 4.
Try to get Ole past Christmas.
Option 2.
81 points or better, that's what 'Satan' Mourinho was able to achieve with the current squad of players minus last year and this year signings.
Who am I kidding though, probably gonna yoyo between 7th and 10th with Ole at the wheel.
Who am I kidding though, probably gonna yoyo between 7th and 10th with Ole at the wheel.
That'll do us more harm than good, if he's out of depth by Christmas (which I expect he will be) then get rid. I see us having a Chelsea esque 2015/16 season anyways.
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Play good football and show progress. Anything above that is a bonus.
I assume this is a joke, as it is extremely unrealistic.
The minimum I expect is top 10. Any worse than that and Ole should absolutely be fired. Woodward should also be fired (but that should be the case, regardless).
That is a VERY low expectation.
If, by December, we're not demoting Ole to caretaker manager in the desperate hope of recreating 'the bounce', while being linked with Pochettino and at least 5 technical directors/ DoFs, then that would surpass my expectations.
A hefty dividend for the owners. Nothing else matters.
2 and three are almost the exact same here any type of improvement will be about 8-10 points 6 point improvement i would hardly call improved through out a whole season and option 5 is completely not acceptable no such thing as a free swing i don't care if your Jesus himself
champions league qualification, better performances and the favouritism of players stopping i.e Rashford can have 14 poor games in a row and start the next game that certainly needs to stop with ole otherwise i am ole out .
For myself i would like an option 6- complete restructure of the club and its wage structure stopping the rewarding of mediocrity at this club i.e Young Jones Rashford Lingard all on wages over 100 k other premier leauge teams they would be on half that or less than. Better performances and an actual philosophy that we can genuinely see with this i expect a Europa league position whole re structuring on our scouting and transfer policy we dont seem to be making those nemanja vidic type signings from red start Belgrade or a risky hidden gem type of player we unearth and turn into either a real good squad player or a genuine star.
Are you not entertained?
Is that not why you came here?
Pffft....
Is that not why you came here?
Pffft....
Relegation. I hope we go all out and aim for it. I'll put a fiver on it.
Top 4 is achievable. The players we had last season went on an awesome run - achievable if Ole gets some team spirit etc.
But... top 4 as the bare minimum as really optimistic. If we finished 5th/6th but showed signs we were improving as the season went on that would be the bare minimum for me.
But... top 4 as the bare minimum as really optimistic. If we finished 5th/6th but showed signs we were improving as the season went on that would be the bare minimum for me.
Battle for 6th place with Leicester is our reality. Everything above that would be a miracle.
We should aim for cups
We should aim for cups
top 4 - got to be
Either top 4 and improvement or sharp decline culminating into a breaking point.
Top four. Chelsea’s spot is more than up for grabs.
From there, we need to go huge next season. Hopefully sold to new owners by then.
From there, we need to go huge next season. Hopefully sold to new owners by then.
CL should be achiveable.
Get a new structure off the field. I would not go into football goals right now.
Why not?, DdG hasn't said he has signed his contract yet has he? There may be a position available there if you're good enough!!
Expectations are ridiculously low right now but top 4 is very achievable and 5th will be a failure. It was only a year ago we finished 2nd and the manager was seen as underachieving.
Spurs Chelsea and Arsenal also finished the season in awful form and of those, Chelsea have lost by far their best player and matchwinner and cant buy anyone. Arsenal have a smaller rebuild budget than us and are in at least as big a mess. Top 4 is really not the impossible challenge people are making out......
Spurs Chelsea and Arsenal also finished the season in awful form and of those, Chelsea have lost by far their best player and matchwinner and cant buy anyone. Arsenal have a smaller rebuild budget than us and are in at least as big a mess. Top 4 is really not the impossible challenge people are making out......