Give him a pay rise
Give him a pay rise
He's here for the long hall now. for better or for worse.
So will Berahino.Play Rooney up top and give him adequate service and he will get the goals for us.
Give him a pay rise
So will Berahino.
I dont want him or something but every PL striker will score 20 goals when he's in a well gelled team who creates lots of chances. Even Danny Welbz. Why pay him 300k while many other could do the job he could? If you pay a player that money, you expect him to make the difference, he should force things, he should be our catalyst. Rooney isnt really more.Yes but we've got Rooney and havent got Berahino in our squad.
Antics aside Wayne Rooney deserves his place it the squad. He was our best forward last season and when played solely upfront he has a lot to offer.
I think he will have a great season next, I predict 20 goals+ and I'm not really sure who else is available to offer us that.
I'll be happy to see him break Bobby's record he has worked hard. You don't become uniteds all time top scorer without giving it your a all. Fair play.
I dont want him or something but every PL striker will score 20 goals when he's in a well gelled team who creates lots of chances. Even Danny Welbz. Why pay him 300k while many other could do the job he could? If you pay a player that money, you expect him to make the difference, he should force things, he should be our catalyst. Rooney isnt really more.
That would be ideal, but indeed theres no way realistically that we're selling him. But cant stand the get him decent service and he'll score you 20 goals argument, so he's class. I think almost every PL striker who starts could get that. Other than that, Rooney has scored over 20 pl goals just twice in his career, I doubt he'd even get that so easy said, would be a genuine challenge for him, as he isnt even as good as he used to be. Hope he surprises me tho.Can't change his wages anymore. He will stay at United, get his enormous wages and will score goals for us. No other club in the world will/can pay him his current wages so he wont leave. Better use him as our main 20+ goal striker instead of putting him on the bench and buy another multi million pound striker with huge wages.
I think he is still a very decent striker, he might not be worth the wages he currently gets and he may not be as good as everyone hoped he would become when he signed but he is still one of our better players and captain.
Also he has still value for the club. When you see Wayne Rooney you think of Manchester United. When you see Manchester United you think of Wayne Rooney. He has a big marketing value since he is still considered a bit of a superstar player.
Yeah good comment. The problem with giving him too much 'love' is that it makes him a tad complacent - that's my big issue with all this because I don't think it benefits him in the long run. He's not especially driven like Ronaldo - who likes to obviously be the 'main' man but at the same time he channels that in the right way i.e. it adds more belief that he can achieve what he sets out to do. Rooney is not like that - he needs a different approach imo.Sign competition, stop treating him as an untouchable star.
I think the whole "unstoppable" thing was a confidence move from LVG. He recognised that Rooney needs to be loved and needs to be he star man which is probably a fair assumtion.
I dont want him or something but every PL striker will score 20 goals when he's in a well gelled team who creates lots of chances. Even Danny Welbz. Why pay him 300k while many other could do the job he could? If you pay a player that money, you expect him to make the difference, he should force things, he should be our catalyst. Rooney isnt really more.
And how do you explain RvP's world class season when he was surrounded by Cleverley, Nani, Valencia, Kagawa and the likes? A world class player shouldnt be as over reliant as you're talking. Suarez lifted Liverpool to a higher level, you want United to lift Rooneh to another level. That's the difference. Even when we played Rooney as a striker, some of his performances were horrendous and he wasnt a big goal threat. Rooney jas a lot of qualities, but in recent years he just hasnt portrayed them enough imo.Tripe and the fact you went as far to mention Welbeck is laughable. Many thought Danny would prove us horribly wrong last season and he ended up looking exactly as he did for us in a very well functioning Arsenal team. Get the right balance in the team and the righ players around Rooney and he will be up there with Costa and the likes. Funny you mention Aguero, who is undoubtedly an amazing player but has spent the last years being served by Silva and Toure who people refer to as the best in the League in their positions on a regular basis. Rooney has had to fill in so many roles that we can't possibly rule him out as a top striker, indeed he has proven time and again that his finishing is still on point.
It's simple, we need to get a proper functioning midfield with depth and creativity to ensure Rooney doesn't need to fill in there anymore, getting Schneiderlin and someone in the mould of Gundogan and allow Herrera or Mata play closer to goal would, in theory be perfect. Get 2 wingers who are quick and capable of playing on the inside and outside (which we on paper have in Di Maria, Depay and even Mata at a push. Personally I hope Janujaz can really step up next year because he'd be perfect for this role even if his future lies as a no 10.
The fact is our team hasn't been functioning for a few years now and Rooney has had to play a multitude of roles. Now compare that to the teams Ronaldo, Messi, Aguero (fair enough currently City are struggling a bit), Benzema, Costa etc.have found themselves in and it's no wonder Rooney has performed worse. Despite this he has been consistently out best attacker since RVP has lost his touch.
Edit: this ties hand in hand with the constant bitching we have had for years about the state of our current squad and we have been regressing since the year we lost Ronaldo.
I think he wouldI said at the time we should of just sold him, but Moyes was allowed to give him that 5 year deal. The new contracts we gave Nani and Rooney at the time were massive mistakes.
Rooney isn't a top level striker anymore. He wouldn't be a starter for any other side in the top 4.
And people who praise him forgets the huge amount of sub-par performances he had upfront also. Even after getting good run of games as a main striker.
Rooney's starting to become a liability and he doesn't deserve his salary/status based on his perfomances on the pitch. I do wish he will become our all-time top scorer but not at the expense of our trophy challenges. I really hope he will benefit from having better players (hopefully) around him next season, because the Rooney we've seen for the past 3-4 seasons is simply not good enough to be our main source of inspiration.
The only reason that I don't want the club to sell him is that it will come back to bite us in the backside in one way or another. But it's tempting to vote for the 3rd alternative.
Your post holds no content, what exactly is bullshit? He hasnt made an completely delusional point.Bullshit. Certain fans have had an agenda against him since he pulled his contract shit. The same type of fan's who claim Pogba was just a money grabbing cnut and his leaving had nothing to do with playing time. Gotta love those internet ********, even when most of them have never been to a game.
And how do you explain RvP's world class season when he was surrounded by Cleverley, Nani, Valencia, Kagawa and the likes? A world class player shouldnt be as over reliant as you're talking. Suarez lifted Liverpool to a higher level, you want United to lift Rooneh to another level. That's the difference. Even when we played Rooney as a striker, some of his performances were horrendous and he wasnt a big goal threat. Rooney jas a lot of qualities, but in recent years he just hasnt portrayed them enough imo.
If everything around you has to be right before you can perform, I doubt you are really world class tbf.
Btw, didnt Welbeck get us a solid return during Moyes his stint? Honestly dont really rate him, as he has the same problem as Rooney. I dont think they get themselves in goalscoring positions enough for their club.
Benteke in my opinion is good enough to start and also not that good enough that he should be put in the starting lineup every game. He might be the player that would be a good rotation option for Rooney in the main striker role. Sort of like Bony or Dzeko at City.1/2
Reason being, we'll most likely need another striker, as it looks like Van Persie will be leaving.
I think the striker that comes in should be good enough to rotate with Rooney when he is either:
- Injured/rested
- Played in the 10 position
Question is, who's going to be happy being rotated, because you'd expect Rooney to play the majority of games, whether that be up top or as a 10.
And how do you explain RvP's world class season when he was surrounded by Cleverley, Nani, Valencia, Kagawa and the likes? A world class player shouldnt be as over reliant as you're talking. Suarez lifted Liverpool to a higher level, you want United to lift Rooneh to another level. That's the difference. Even when we played Rooney as a striker, some of his performances were horrendous and he wasnt a big goal threat. Rooney jas a lot of qualities, but in recent years he just hasnt portrayed them enough imo.
If everything around you has to be right before you can perform, I doubt you are really world class tbf.
Btw, didnt Welbeck get us a solid return during Moyes his stint? Honestly dont really rate him, as he has the same problem as Rooney. I dont think they get themselves in goalscoring positions enough for their club.