What's the worst decision you've seen go for and against us?

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Drogba offside in 2010 was a disgrace.

One that really got irked was a penalty we should have got in Highbury in 1997/98 season. After coming back from 2 down to equalise and right before half-time Scholes outwits Winterburn and gets brought down, obvious penalty. We end up losing to a late Platt header.
 

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I see a few Drogba offside mentions for worst calls against United but no Macheda scoring with his hands in the same game for worst calls for United.

Two others for involving Chelsea:

Clattenburg sending off Torres for diving when he was clearly fouled and should have been a red for Evans. Instead of 10 vs 10 after that decision it was 11 vs 9. Also Hernandez's winner in that game was offside.

Anthony Taylor thinking there was nothing wrong with Maguire kicking David Luiz in the bollocks. He then disallowed one of our goals for Azpilicueta fouling a united player on a corner, despite Azpilicueta having been shoved by a United player into another United player.
Every time somebody mentions the drogba offisde, somebody mentions the macheda handball, as if thats how football works and the opening goal/outcome of a game isnt highly changeable. As if going 2 nil down with 11 minutes left doesnt dramatically reduce your chances of getting a point. Tedious observation time and again when that crazy decision is mentioned.

genuine stench of corruption, its that bad.

https://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Offside.jpg
 
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Because Nani clearly has his eyes on the ball and controlling it and then Arbeloa comes flying in from nowhere playing for the foul. At no point is Nani making a tackle or trying to make any kind of foul. Arbeloa is like the footballing equivalent of someone driving along the road normally and jumping in front of a car, then suing for injuries.
I'd argue that the one against Rashford was worse. The other player put his foot under Rashford's foot while he tried to shield it, atleast Nani hit him in the upper body.
That is if we leave context out of it and just compare the actual decision.
 

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I don't see what is so outrageous about this but you guys love to bring this up every time you can. :lol:
In today's game that's a red card every time, in those days maybe not
 

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Every time somebody mentions the drogba offisde, somebody mentions the macheda handball, as if thats how football works and the opening goal/outcome of a game isnt highly changeable. As if going 2 nil down with 11 minutes left doesnt dramatically reduce your chances of getting a point. Tedious observation time and again when that crazy decision is mentioned.

genuine stench of corruption, its that bad.

https://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Offside.jpg
It was the second goal. We were already winning and clearly on the attack going for more, hence the second goal (albeit offside). It's not mentioned by united fans because it's convenient and if there's genuine corruption you woulda thought they'd disallow a goal scored by a hand.
 

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Arbeloa is like the footballing equivalent of someone driving along the road normally and jumping in front of a car, then suing for injuries.
Arbeloa did got to the ball before being tackled. I get it was an important game and the decision didn't go on your favor but there was a contact and elements to interpret that foul as a red card offense so I still don't think it should be that big of a deal.
 

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Jonny Evans karate kicking Drogba in the chest and getting a free kick and a yellow for Drogba was pretty bad tbf, but also hilarious


 

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The ones that stick out to me are:

1) Drogba was a mile offside at Old Trafford in the PL 2009/10. Chelsea won the league by one point.
2) Paul Scholes was well onside in the CL in 2003/04 against Porto, would have put us a goal up in the tie. End up losing to Mourinho's Porto and that cnut is created. Weak CL there too, we hadn't our best team but you never know if we beat the soon to be champions.
3) Nani's red card against Real Madrid, sickening as we were playing so well that match and every incident similar to it for the next year was a yellow card - including Benzema for Real Madrid. That was Fergie's last year and he'd played a blinder tactically, didn't deserve that.
Scholes disallowed goal is the worst for me. I'm still fuming about...ECL was ours imo. Mourinho celebrating and running around...oh my!
Keown and other gooners agression after Ruud missed the last minute penalty.
 

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Paul Scholes given offside against Porto when he scored a perfectly legit goal.
 

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Against - Denis Law's late goal against AC Milan in the 2nd leg of the 1969 European Cup Semi Final. The ball was well over the goal line and in the net, before a defender scooped it back and into play. The referee waved play on and the holders United lost 2-1 on aggregate. I was behind that goal, in the Stretford End, and the ball was well over the line for a goal.

For - Roy Carroll, as already mentioned.
 

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Arbeloa did got to the ball before being tackled. I get it was an important game and the decision didn't go on your favor but there was a contact and elements to interpret that foul as a red card offense so I still don't think it should be that big of a deal.
There was no 'tackle' though. I remember seeing various incidents in the months and years later that were yellow cards at worst for the same sort of incident.
 

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I don't see what is so outrageous about this but you guys love to bring this up every time you can. :lol:
Madrid seem to get these kind of decisions whenever they're needed in the cl. So I'm not surprised you don't see this one as unusual.

It was a real sickener though. As said above, Fergie got his tactics spot on that night and we were by far the better team up to that point.
 

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The Scholes/Porto one was far worse than Nani because it wasn’t subjective. It also aided Mourinho’s rise, if you want to talk about the butterfly effect.

We really had some rotten luck in the Champions League.
 

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It was the second goal. We were already winning and clearly on the attack going for more, hence the second goal (albeit offside). It's not mentioned by united fans because it's convenient and if there's genuine corruption you woulda thought they'd disallow a goal scored by a hand.
I know it was, I say that in my second sentence. United losing 1 nil at home with 10 minutes left wasnt something anybody feared under ferguson. 2 nil though, its game over.

It was a call that handed chelsea the league, and not only is the linesman perfectly in line, but had the benefit of the actual 18 yard line to assist him. Its the worst and most impactful linesman call in premier league history in my book, and there is no justifying it. The best case for chelsea fans is that it happens, and thats how football works. But going about with whataboutery as if the 2 goals just cancel eachother out is ridiculous. Take the win with the freak, shocking decision, and let it go.
 

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Rio Ferdinand disallowed goal in fa cup final against Arsenal. Ended up losing on penalties
 

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I don't see what is so outrageous about this but you guys love to bring this up every time you can. :lol:
Have you ever seen a striker given a red card for attempting a bicycle kick and catching someone?
 

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FA Cup quarter-final vs Portsmouth in 2008 robbed us of another treble.
 

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An honourable mention in this thread, and I just know it’s something that angers him to today, but we got a terrible penalty call against Rio once at Old Trafford against Newcastle, and I believe that was the only pen he conceded in his whole career.

On the flip side, as far as I am concerned I used to see Vidic get away with what I consider blatant penalties at Old Trafford almost weekly with very little fuss for quite a while.
 

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The Nani one really hurt as it was Fergie's last CL game. But I console myself thinking that team wouldn't have got much change out of Klopp's Dortmund or Heynckes' Bayern.
 

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The Nani one really hurt as it was Fergie's last CL game. But I console myself thinking that team wouldn't have got much change out of Klopp's Dortmund or Heynckes' Bayern.
Real ALMOST overturned a 3 goal difference against Dortmund. And we dominated that Real.
 

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Don't even want to think about the Nani red card. Sir Alex didn't deserve that...we didn't deserve that, nor did Nani himself.

Fergie and even Mourinho post match. Man that hurt. We have had a lot of painful CL exits.
 

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Jonny Evans karate kicking Drogba in the chest and getting a free kick and a yellow for Drogba was pretty bad tbf, but also hilarious


Yeah love this clip too, that he manages to kick him twice before hitting the ground is some JCVD shit

In slight defence of Jonny though Drogba actually has no business challenging for that ball, the header is long gone before any contact and I have some sympathy for players sticking a leg out to protect themselves in the air. If Evans doesn't there's a chance Drogba flips him on the way down and could very well have badly hurt him hitting the floor. 2 old pros knowing exactly what they were doing, Drogba caught the shit end this time,oh well
 

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4) It was pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, but I remember us conceding a goal against Bilbao because the referee, quite literally, penalised Evra for kicking the ball with his foot.
3) THe FA cup goal vs Huddersfield where it was onside so the VAR guy drew his own 6 year old lines to make it look offside instead.
2) Definitely not corrupt at all corrupt referee Antony Taylor re-inventing the rules in the middle of a game to allow Middlesbrough to basically chuck the ball into our net.
1) The Drogba offside which was so bad it was just confusing and resulted in my Chelsea supporting dad sitting in embarrassed silence for the entire rest of the game.

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3) Vidic deciding he didn't want Villa to score in the league cup final so would just foul them instead then not getting sent off. Although sympathy for this reduced significantly due to Martin O'Neill and Martin Tyler referring back to it on a weekly basis for about the next 3 years.
2) Fernando Torres sent off for Chelsea for "diving" after Evans nearly cut him in half, reducing them to 9 men. Then our winning goal was offside.
1) When Tottenham scored from the halfway line but it didn't count because the ball wasn't quite a full 2 metres over the line.
 

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Against:
4) It was pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, but I remember us conceding a goal against Bilbao because the referee, quite literally, penalised Evra for kicking the ball with his foot.
3) THe FA cup goal vs Huddersfield where it was onside so the VAR guy drew his own 6 year old lines to make it look offside instead.
2) Definitely not corrupt at all corrupt referee Antony Taylor re-inventing the rules in the middle of a game to allow Middlesbrough to basically chuck the ball into our net.
1) The Drogba offside which was so bad it was just confusing and resulted in my Chelsea supporting dad sitting in embarrassed silence for the entire rest of the game.

For:
3) Vidic deciding he didn't want Villa to score in the league cup final so would just foul them instead then not getting sent off. Although sympathy for this reduced significantly due to Martin O'Neill and Martin Tyler referring back to it on a weekly basis for about the next 3 years.
2) Fernando Torres sent off for Chelsea for "diving" after Evans nearly cut him in half, reducing them to 9 men. Then our winning goal was offside.
1) When Tottenham scored from the halfway line but it didn't count because the ball wasn't quite a full 2 metres over the line.
What was the eventual explanation for that "offside" goal against Huddersfield? Just looked again and the lines were utterly ludicrous
 

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Nani red card.

Rooney's dive to end those cnuts' unbeaten streak.
That Nani's red still pisses me off. SAF's final season. Even worse that Pepe did the exact same thing in the following round and that was worse. Only a yellow.
 

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The Vardy shoulder barge on Rafael that went unpunished, compounded by Rafael getting a red card seconds later. I always felt that Leicester loss was a bit of a sliding- doors moment for LVG.
 

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For all the Nani Red Card mentions:


The thing that makes it worse for me is how the ref made a massive show of it - one of those obvious occassions where the ref absolutely loved being the centre of attention and giving a red card.
I always thought it was clearly a red.
 

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What was the eventual explanation for that "offside" goal against Huddersfield? Just looked again and the lines were utterly ludicrous
Don't think there ever was one.

It's not nice to say people should be fired, arent fit to do their job etc. But when you look at it now, it was either on purpose or SO stupid that the official responsible has no business doing any adult task...and yet I think still only worthy of 3rd place.
 

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The Drogba one was most obviously incorrect. But they were already ahead. Final score was 2-1 and our goal was offside too.
They were under the cosh when they scored that and we were easily the better team for the entire second half. I also don't remember our goal being offside. It was possibly handball, but the game was killed by the Drogba goal anyway...and it arguably decided the league.

Of course hard to whittle an entire season down to one decision, but it was just so blatantly wrong and in the most important game of the season, and the more you watch it back the harder it is to explain how it wasn't given. It's not like there was any subjective element to it, and it was 100% clear and in full view of the linesman.