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Mata - not even close, come on now. He's probably in the top 5 of signings post fergie. I don't think Fellaini was a bad signingeithe,r, we've certainly had worse.
Fellaini.
Mata is awful.
100% agree. (Because you are 100% correct )Fellaini is probably the worst signing I've seen at United that wasn't immediately ditched. He's had less than 20 games in almost 6 years where he wasn't bad or worse than what we could play instead. He's a big reason why we've resorted to shit football. He's a dirty player, extremely limited and I'll be glad when he gets sold.
I've got nothing bad to say about Mata. His transfer wasn't necessarily a good one because we bought a #10 and played him out right his whole time here which is just a waste for the most part.
So on one hand we've got a player which managers bend over backwards to try and make work and the other was played in positions that wasn't his best and he played much better because he actually knows how to play football.
Mata is exactly the type of lightweight, flatter to deceive fluff we used to buy pre-Fergie. Jesper Olsen without the pace. I am no great fan of Fellaini either but it’s not like we are comparing Giggs against Obertan.There are (currently) 113 people on this forum who should be on a knitting forum instead...
Fellaini's best performances actually came possession football Van Gaal, when we had that period of best football post-Fergie and in which he only scored one header (as if it was a crime) and was instrumental to our exhilarating football played on the deck. Not that anyone cares to remember perhaps as we love our 'ol' big lump, Fella' narrative.Mata, we have just not used his strengths at all, ever.
Mourinho's tactics were built for Fellaini which is why he has been useful for us occasionally. However, he is crap!
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Van Persie and Gareth Bale took the cake in that 2012-2013 season. Mata wasn't near them, I think.In 2012/3 Mata was arguably the best player in the league, certainly it's most influential attacking player.
They both were.Mata without a doubt but to be fair to Fellaini he was also played out of position for most of his time here.
Of course, that's why I said 'also'. It seemed like people were only mentioning Mata being misused.They both were.
This even being a question..
Only one of them is a footballer.
What is "out of position" in Fellaini's case?Mata without a doubt but to be fair to Fellaini he was also played out of position for most of his time here.
Playing off the front man is his best position. He's played there some times for us but the vast majority of the time it was further back in a position which doesn't get the best out of him. Don't get me wrong, he should never have been a regular for us regardless of where he played.What is "out of position" in Fellaini's case?
Both Fellaini and Moyes believed midfield was his best position and we signed him primarily to play there. Yet most of the people praising Fellaini are referring to the impact he had when played further forward, particularly in terms of his goals & nuisance value. So in his case if he hadn't been used "out of position" he would likely have had less impact for us.