Twenty-six years of SAF really blunted that radar. We are out of practice, we'll get there.
Why are United fans so oblivious to importance of good managers?
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All of Moyes, Vangle, Mourinho and Ole have, in one way or another, shown that they weren't up to the task long before the fans became "suitably impatient".
We've seen more than someone who's born in 1992
You are imagining things.
With Moyes it lasted less than one season, it's been 3 with Ole.
But I get your point, blaming the players can only get so far when as a team we look completely disjointed.
People said it was Lindelof being weak, we brought Varane yet we can't keep a clean sheets.
Late winners are in our DNA so just play dross and win it late that's the United way according to our current manager. Absolutely shocking performance again but no late drama, sadly late drama won't save Ole he needs to come up with some gameplan on his own.
I thought this post had to be sarcastic, but I’m not sure it is.
Ole is a United legend. I believe fans are more partial with him than most other managers that we had. Jose, van gal and even moyes are better coaches than ole
It is a question that I have been pondering, because Ole for some strange reason seems to be highly rated among united fans despite being an average coach.
It is a question that I have been pondering, because Ole for some strange reason seems to be highly rated among united fans despite being an average coach.
Why was the sack poll closed?You are imagining things.
Needs a new midfield mate, and one which gells together, not a bunch of mismatch lads playing together.. McT needs to be not relied on, we need to sort it out and a DM for starters will help that..
We still haven't had a top manager that's in or around his prime since SAF stepped down. Two average ones and two already well on their way down.
Everyone dreams of Ole winning us trophies being one of our legends. But yes you're right deep down everyone knows that dream ain't a reality. Hope the board stop with the dreams and start being a realist.
It is just sad but mainly because United fans have seen two technical managers failed one after another. And things seemed to improve a bit under Ole, who tries miserably to copy Sir Alex's style. Sir Alex was never a technical genius. He has a naturally gifted charismatic personality. So even when he just said, lads, it's Tottenham. It made mattered, players were ready to go through brick walls for him. Most United fans have grown up watching this and think this could work with Ole too since he is a United legend. But sadly things don't work that way.
It's the "United way".
A better manager is far more important
Chelsea under Lampard spent £200 million last summer to improve their squad no end of good. It was apparent early in the season that Lampard wasn’t of the managerial capability to get the best out of that group of top players. They reacted like they do, quickly without fuss hiring one of the finest managers in Europe, and low and behold win the champions league in the same season as having sacked their club legend manager. Now I’m not saying it’s that easy and will always work like that but it’s a blue print in modern football that we must accept is reality. We are still in a post Ferguson hang over era 8 years on.
McFred is our midfield, support them or f**k off.
In that case we'd still be supporting moyes!
Why does it matter what the fans feel? The board keeping Ole doesn't depend on my opinion on Ole
Sorry couldn't resist, but I agree with you 100%. The bit about sounding like a talksport caller had me laughing too because it's damn true.
There is more threads about Ole than we have players. It's messy and redundant, if you want a poll or vent about Ole use one of the already existing threads.
There are literally ten threads in the football forum calling for Ole's head.
This is hilarious.
Because boards aren't oblivious to the way their paying customers feel.
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Try opening a thread that suggests we should sack the manager or asks the question whether we should. Then comment.You are imagining things.
Ironically Utd fans both under-appreciate the importance of the manager while simultaneously holding on to the notion that managers deserve endless patience… it’s very odd.
There’s a notion within the fan-base that changing managers quickly when they’ve proven to be a failure somehow makes the club ‘plastic’ or ‘lesser than’, when in reality, Utd have REPEATEDLY missed out on the right manager because the club has been ‘loyal’ to the wrong ones.
The club needs to adopt an absolutely RUTHLESS approach toward managers.
Mourinho should’ve obviously been replaced in the Summer before his last season.
Ole should be replaced now - like, in this International Break he should be replaced. But the club will do what they always do - feck all.
And the fanbase will carry on the simpering hopefulness.
There’s a notion within the fan-base that changing managers quickly when they’ve proven to be a failure somehow makes the club ‘plastic’ or ‘lesser than’, when in reality, Utd have REPEATEDLY missed out on the right manager because the club has been ‘loyal’ to the wrong ones.
The club needs to adopt an absolutely RUTHLESS approach toward managers.
Mourinho should’ve obviously been replaced in the Summer before his last season.
Ole should be replaced now - like, in this International Break he should be replaced. But the club will do what they always do - feck all.
And the fanbase will carry on the simpering hopefulness.
Pretty much. And if the board was supposed to follow fans opinions who are they following, the ones that want to give Ole an other 5 years or the ones that want him out since 2019?
Caf Cancel Culture ! I've been away too long!
We are United, we are better than the others. We spend more than the other teams but are delighted to finish fourth, as long as we have as manager the shittiest manager we have had in my lifetime (yes, he is worse than Moyes).
Fans have a serious problem with their fetish about the manager and wanting long-time solutions, instead of ‘ordinary’ clubs who go for short term solutions and win trophies while playing good football, while we are still stuck in some purgatory cause of some unexplainable stupid romanticism.
Fans have a serious problem with their fetish about the manager and wanting long-time solutions, instead of ‘ordinary’ clubs who go for short term solutions and win trophies while playing good football, while we are still stuck in some purgatory cause of some unexplainable stupid romanticism.
I remember the Charlton fans acting like you lot, on here, with Alan Curbishley not being good enough, taken them as far as he could etc etc after finishing 7th ( poor end to season.) They got their way and 15 years and 18 managers later near bottom of Div 1.
After 3 managers since Fergie we are at last showing signs of a long term plan with lots of talent across all age groups and a happy club behind the scenes and you want to start again ........... Idiots!!!
After 3 managers since Fergie we are at last showing signs of a long term plan with lots of talent across all age groups and a happy club behind the scenes and you want to start again ........... Idiots!!!
Nah.
There's no other clubs fan site that would allow the posts Redcafe allow. It's amazingly chilled about negativity.. just look at the threads open/"popular" right now
Why do you want to create a thread about Ole when we have plenty of threads about him including one dedicated to his performance? Is your opinion that special that you need your own thread and can't just share it in the one designed for it?
"why aren't we more like Chelsea?" the thread
Even if you don't support Ole, having a managerial merry go round isn't the way forward. Chelsea just make it look so.
Even if you don't support Ole, having a managerial merry go round isn't the way forward. Chelsea just make it look so.
I'm not a mod, I couldn't tell you. One thread doesn't change what I said, nobody is silenced on here unless you're abusive or breaking rules. Again, there's more hate and negativity in the United forum than praise. It's why a lot of fans avoid even coming into this area of the forum.
We seem to think that because Fergie needed time, that it had to be the case with everyone. The difference is that Fergie did an incredible job with Aberdeen, and got them winning the European cup. Also when fergie joined we were in the relegation zone or close to it. He did a massive rebuild. but everyone knew he had what it takes. You could say the same with Klopp and Liverpool. Ole had very little experience on the top level and no achievements whatsoever, he'd never be considered for a job at any top european club. We're now being sentimental like liverpool in the 90s, and he's being outsmarted by other managers left and right.
Players > Managers > Scouts > Owners > Coaches
I think it would be very insightful to see the forum wide results of a poll on whether they think we should back or sack Ole. A thread alone doesn't allow for that.