The difference being Pogba was an unknown 17 year old when we signed him from Le Havre (I think), with no market value. He's a world class player today, and the club stands to lose a fortune if he chooses to leave on a free. A fortune that could be spent on his replacement this window.
United have painted themselves into a corner over Pogba. If any club where genuinely interested in him and if United hadn't put such a ridiculous price on him he would of been long gone by now but nobody wants to buy Pogba. Raiola has tried to put him on the market at least 3 times that we know of but nobody has bitten which says more about Pogba than the club tbh. We're now at the stage where Pogba/his fatfeck sgent holds all the cards. Have the club messed up over Pogba? Of course they have and the best we can hope for is Madrid buy Mbappe this summer, which could open a deal to take Pogba to PSG for some transfer deal as their French talisman.
This vilification of him by the media has gone too far this time
A well-paid journalist actually took the time to write that utterly pointless article.
Nah, he wasn't unknown, he was one of the most exciting prospects in the world. Captain of the U17 side.
You could be right, my memory is less than reliable at the best of times, but the point that Pogba carried no immediate market value at the time still stands. He has to be worth somewhere in the region of £60 million in today's market.
That sums up Pogba...average. He has the ability to be great but his performances, 95% of them, have been average.
Well according to most you’d think he’s as crap as Mata and he can’t get ahead of McTominay so maybe all those same fans should mind there business about what he does.
You’re right, obviously there was the Kakuta situation around that time too. Although, I can see why the other poster is saying it’s a different situation. Pogba obviously didn’t have a professional contract to run down at Le Havre.
Well most people are blinded by emotion. They also thought Tevez was a shit player when he left, turned on Heinze when he flirted with Liverpool and burned effigies of Rooney when he asked for a transfer. The same is going to happen with Pogba if he leaves on a free next year.
The term was Stakeholders, as most fans are not Shareholders but yea lad I concocted it when you can’t comprehend the difference.
Yes we do.
A Chelsea fan in with the receipts.
Give over, your stakeholders thing taking a paycut made no sense. Someone said the quickest way for him to leave is run this year down. i said no, the quickest way for him to leave is to go now with a fee where him and his agent get less money. Fill your boots with google quotes about his entourage talk about moving away down the years
Tbf Herrera received United offer very late and already had one from PSG. Also, his agent never dissrespected the club, manager, club legends (Scholes) and so on while Paul kept his mouth shut or confirmed that he would like to move on... The situation is vastly different.
I dontcare where Pogba goes just as long as he goes; he has no intention of staying so why doesnt he just come out and say it? I have no respect for him.
The operative word being "Team"
The bolded part is where all my patience with Pogba finally run out. I can't see how anyone can defend what transpired on the eve of the biggest game of the season. I hope to god we don't give him a new contract because Pogba finally decides he loves United when no other club are prepared to pay his outrageous wage demands he's sure to ask for because if we do give him his contract it won't be too long before Pogba/his feckin mouthpiece decide they're once again looking for a new challenge elsewhere. This shit show has to end.
How would you feel if he signed a new contract tomorrow?
Fair enough on Mata, I got that wrong but I'm not sure the situations are comparable in any case. Mata isn't one of highest paid players, he's not a first team regular and he's coming to the end of his career. He's only been given a one year extension anyway so it's not like we're trying to tie him down in a long contract and he was refusing. I feel it's a bit of a disingenuous argument when there's very good reasons why people wouldn't care.
We don't stand to lose anything because no one is willing to pay for him.
He's not a 89m player, that's just what we paid for him. The market decides his value and it seems much lower.
Personally the only way I'd be happy for Pogba to stay would be if he got rid of his agent but as that isn't going to happen I feel it would be a terrible decision from the club and it will be only a matter of time before he's "looking for another challenge."
Huh?
So you still can’t answer the question at hand, let’s focus on the bolded part of your tangent. . .
I don’t work in the club so can’t give exact dates but from memory there was talk of a contract prior to January 1st which is when Herrera could ‘officially’ begin negotiations with PSG. I also remember there being some late news of a last gasp offer in the final 6 months. The fact remains Herrera left for a sizeable pay increase & was treated as if some martyr with a send off befitting someone who’d done far more for the club.
I mean, it would probably be fair to assume that any contract he signs at this stage of his career will likely be his last. Hopefully, that will keep his mind clear of any future moves down the road, allowing him to concentrate on doing what he does best - playing football. That's the hope anyway. I'd like him to resign with us for that reason alone.
Not happy because I no longer trust him. If he starts playing like the player we all know he can be I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because he wears the United shirt but as I say I dont trust him and I have no doubts that as soon as something else upsets him he'll let us all down again. I prefer it that he went asap.
Would be better to get something for him, rather than nothing.
Finally we can agree on something, it's all speculation. Only thing we do know is Pogba agent made it clear in mid-season that he wants to leave (he, his agent/spokeperson - doesn't matter). Whether he was offered a deal last year or not we will never know as those things rarely are being made public for obvious reasons. So just because we didn't hear about Pogba not signing an extension last year, doesn't mean we should assume it didn't happen and bash the club - which is my point.
ad A) interesting question, do you think people outside of the club can answer that? I don't think so, there may be many reasons (Pogba hesitating, no offers as he'll likely be available for free next season, no offers because nobody rates him that much, no offers from clubs where Pogba would like to move, or the most likely option: he wants more money, the payer being secondary factor) - again, we can speculate, but I don't know, and frankly I don't care.
A) If the club was so badly run, why did he join us?
