But, you could argue - Ronaldo was the penalty taker when Bruno came into the Portugal team…
Will Bruno leave penalties and free kicks to Ronaldo now?
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I am not even sure why this is in question,
Why is bruno getting dropped from pen duties when he scores about 99% of them ? with a high success rate why disturb the balance ?
Why is bruno getting dropped from pen duties when he scores about 99% of them ? with a high success rate why disturb the balance ?
You could but I doubt Bruno cares. Ronaldo is going to be the main man in our team it's crazy to think otherwise.
I'd rather Bruno took them as I think he's a better penalty taker, but it is what it is. If Bruno scores less but assists more I'm fine with it.
Surprised there’s 7 pages on something that was as certain as death and taxes. Ronaldo will take all set pieces unless he deems them not within range to shoot. Bruno will probably only get a chance to shoot either if Ronaldo isn’t playing or he offers him one.
Imagine playing football with your actual idol? Yes, you walk away if he says he's taking the penalty/free-kick...although I'm sure this has already been discussed and Ole is fully behind Ronaldo picking up duties.
Bruno is better but Ronaldo will take them.
It's not like Ronaldo is bad at them or anything, but not maximizing our chances of scoring is silly.
It's not like Ronaldo is bad at them or anything, but not maximizing our chances of scoring is silly.
Oh, I completely agree, although it does feel like putting the ego of one player above what is best for the team.
Bruno's career total is about 93%, Ronaldo is at 84%. Ronaldo is still great at them and he'll for sure be taking them, but yeah statistically it should be Bruno.
Was..Wtf i did now?. It is interesting situation. Ronny is boss in Portugal NT. Bruno is boss here.
Yep, you've definitely been to the training ground and been part of the team meetings, looool.
Who's better at pens, bruno or ronaldo?
Fair play for finding stats, I didn't think Ronnie's would be bad but i really feel Ole will make the call to keep Bruno on pen duties until or if he starts missing them, just a feeling mind you but a Bruno pen is pretty much a guaranteed goal so not sure why Ole would want to take that away and I don't think he will, will be interesting mind you to see what happens.
There's no way in hell Bruno will take penalties. Ronaldo scoring goals and being front and centre is far too important for the club and him right now.
I think Bruno will pretty much offer them up to Ronaldo while he's here anyway. Ronaldo is his idol and his national team captain, and doesn't seem like an egotistical guy at all to want to keep penalties in this scenario (even if he is better at them!).
Seems I have the unpopular opinion here but I actually think Ronaldo may give freekicks to Bruno but take penalties
Well considering what I said has been the case for Ronaldo for the last 14 years at whatever club he’s been at (including here), do you really think it’s gonna be any different this time?
Well, perhaps he won't be (stranger things have happened).
But if he does get dropped (as most expect he will), the answer is obvious: so that a statistically worse player with a huge ego and a desire to score as many goals as humanly possible gets his wish.
Hard to spin it any other way.
However, we've decided to bring Ronaldo back - it's obvious that he will have to be accommodated in various ways, that's part of the deal. Expecting him to turn all humble all of a sudden is unrealistic - and what you potentially gain from blowing a bit of smoke up his arse is...a player who can still be a lethal finisher and win us matches (maybe even big trophies, who knows).
Plus - as many others have pointed out - he isn't a sub-par penalty taker. He's pretty good statistically. And the number of pens we get this season should be lower, perhaps even dramatically so. All in all, we may not lose that much from letting an inferior (statistically) player take the pens - and if this keeps him happy overall, it could be worth it.
I just hope he won't be allowed to waste free kicks at will - that could get seriously annoying before too long.
Depends if Fred allows him to take the Free Kicks
Ronaldo has taken 166 penalties in his career and missed 27.
Bruno has taken 35 penalties and missed 3.
I think it is unfair to take them off Bruno, but it is also unfair to compare conversion percentage.
Of course Bruno is going to have a better conversion percentage when Ronaldo has taken 131 more penalties in his career.
The career penalty states are:
Bruno has converted 42 of 45 , 93%
Ronaldo has converted 139 of 167, 83%
This is not even close to a debate.
Free kicks on the other hand are much more situational and it's not like we have a Ward Prowse on the field for competition.
Bruno has converted 42 of 45 , 93%
Ronaldo has converted 139 of 167, 83%
This is not even close to a debate.
Free kicks on the other hand are much more situational and it's not like we have a Ward Prowse on the field for competition.
I’m fine with Ronaldo taking penalties. I actually think Bruno is due to miss a few, and Ronaldo, especially when especially needed, is clutch on pens. His % is lower because he’s played so many more games than Bruno as well. So no problems there at all. More important for a forward’s confidence to be among the goals as well.
for Fks though, I really hope Ronaldo does not take the majority of them, especially if they’re closer to goal. Super long ones, fine, we don’t score off those anyway, but he should be leaving the ones that are close to goal to Bruno.
for Fks though, I really hope Ronaldo does not take the majority of them, especially if they’re closer to goal. Super long ones, fine, we don’t score off those anyway, but he should be leaving the ones that are close to goal to Bruno.
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Hopefully Ole puts his foot down and doesn't let Ronaldo take free kicks because he isn't very good at them.
He won't do that I'm sure, but one can hope.
He won't do that I'm sure, but one can hope.
This would work if Fernandes had only taken a handful of penalties in his career.
He's taken close to 50, which is a more than large enough sample size. So there's no basis to assume his conversion record is only better because Ronaldo's taken more.
45 is still nothing in comparison to 167 though. His conversion rate now wouldn't necessarily stay the same if he takes another 122 to match Ronaldo's.
Ole is Mr nice guy, I can see him making them rotate until one misses two pens and the decision is made for him.
Just to add I am a pro Ole and think he's doing a good job so far.
Ronaldo will take all penalties, long range free kicks and some straight central free kicks. Bruno will take indirect and near to the goal direct free kicks. Although Bruno should really be taking all of them.
It's up for debate. Ronaldo has taken over 3x the amount of penalties.
Bruno wont have 93 % after taking 150 or odd penalties.
Ronaldo's free kicks have been a parody for a decade and he still takes nearly all of them, why would someone believe he would ever cede penalties to another player, where the relative disadvantage of him taking them is a lot more slim, if any.
Ole will do nothing about it. I don't see things turning out well if he tries. Ronaldo will do as he pleases.
It would be naive to sign Ronaldo and expect otherwise. For all his greatness, the man has his flaws and, like anyone else, isn't changing them after being on the wrong side of thirty.
Ole will do nothing about it. I don't see things turning out well if he tries. Ronaldo will do as he pleases.
It would be naive to sign Ronaldo and expect otherwise. For all his greatness, the man has his flaws and, like anyone else, isn't changing them after being on the wrong side of thirty.
I think you’re including the penalties Ronaldo missed in friendlies. Think his % is closer to 86% on the ones that count.
I can guarantee you Ronaldo will be taking over. Logic is superseded by his presence; try to tell Ronaldo he's not taking penalties.
I'm not saying that's necessarily right, but it's how it will be.
Still waiting for someone to actually explain how they can state this with such confidence. And no, "his conversion rate wouldn't necessarily stay that high" (in other words, we don't know that it won't drop) isn't an explanation.
If Fernandes has taken 45 penalties and scored 42 so far, that suggests that by the time he's taken 167 he's likely to have scored about 150 of them. Because he's a better penalty taker than Ronaldo. This isn't a case of "David Nugent has a better international goals-per-game record than Ronaldo" where you're relying on a laughably small sample.
Penalties, no. Bruno is great at taking them why change it? Ronaldo should maybe take some when he is the one who is fouled in the box
Ronaldo has far more powerful shot, so he should take free kicks that are farther from the box
Ronaldo has far more powerful shot, so he should take free kicks that are farther from the box
Because he's taken penalties at every team for more than a decade and isn't about to give it up.
They'll decide who takes them with 'paper, scissors, rock' before every penalty, under the premise that Ronaldo can only choose paper and Bruno can only choose rock.
Personally, I would prefer Ronaldo to take them (and free kicks) because I want to see him score as many goals as possible for Manchester United as he's my favorite player
Personally, I would prefer Ronaldo to take them (and free kicks) because I want to see him score as many goals as possible for Manchester United as he's my favorite player
I would expect as far as Pens are concerned, its who is on the best run, once either miss one it passes to the other.
You would assume free-kicks (around the box ) are worked out in training, depending on angle, distance from goal, etc. in some cases Bruno, in some instances CR.
I really don't think it will be an issue, but if it does then Ole will have to 'stand tall' on the matter.
You would assume free-kicks (around the box ) are worked out in training, depending on angle, distance from goal, etc. in some cases Bruno, in some instances CR.
I really don't think it will be an issue, but if it does then Ole will have to 'stand tall' on the matter.
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Bruno is the better penalty-taker, but my gut feeling says that Ronaldo will take them. Ronaldo is a good penalty-taker but Bruno is an excellent one. Regarding freekicks, Ronaldo should not be near them but freekicks are about alpha and high status, so the ones with the highest status often take them as the manager's rarely get involved in that. That's why Ronaldo has taken them for a decade despite being poor at them.