Sunny Jim
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which is sufficient to finish around 12-15th place11 Games 13 Pts
1.18 pts / games
38 games = 45 Pts
which is sufficient to finish around 12-15th place11 Games 13 Pts
1.18 pts / games
38 games = 45 Pts
Pretty fair assessment. I think we will pick up a little bit after Xmas but not by much. I think we will finish around 10thwhich is sufficient to finish around 12-15th place
I wasn't the one who set up the poll. Once a poll is made, the votes can't be changed from public to private and vice versa.Why is the vote hidden? @Damien I want the person to who thinks we will be relegated to be named & shamed (often an oppo).
Oppos want Ole to stay...Why is the vote hidden? @Damien I want the person to who thinks we will be relegated to be named & shamed (often an oppo).
Fair enough, United fans will be in Europa & Mid-table I guess.I wasn't the one who set up the poll. Once a poll is made, the votes can't be changed from public to private and vice versa.
So @Rood @bosnian_red and few others are opposition WUMs pretending as ManUtd fans.Oppos want Ole to stay...
As with Moyes - all oppo WUMs on here are pretending to be 'Ole in' Utd fans - no doubt about that.
To see how the Ole in crowd have lowered standards. In May they said give him one widow, and then judge. And it was accepted by them that crap football and finishing below 6th would deserve him getting sacked.Wasnt so long ago people dismissing finishing a distant 2nd. Now they're praising a possible 10th place finish as something that wasnt so bad.
Sack or keep votes was around 3000, this thread has around 120 votes.it's mad, 47% of people don't want him sacked yet 97% of people think we will miss out on top four. The f*ck are that 44% smoking if they think it's OK to keep a manager who has no chance of getting top four?
3000 or 120, it'll generally average out around the same.Sack or keep votes was around 3000, this thread has around 120 votes.
How? Sample size is too small and around 4% voted in this thread. For all we know, Ole in fans are fed up with one more Ole thread and not arsed to open this thread.3000 or 120, it'll generally average out around the same.
5th quite comfortably.
Gotta love these alternate tables, surely we can find one where we are 1stI think top 4 is possible and top 6 most likely. We are still 3rdin xpoints and top in xga. If the transfer market and pogbas form can boost our xg at all, even 20%, we will be okay result wise
We are still muck
Go read about xg if you like, it is highly predictive and continues to be in the face of it being misunderstoodGotta love these alternate tables, surely we can find one where we are 1st
Oppos want Ole to stay...
As with Moyes - all oppo WUMs on here are pretending to be 'Ole in' Utd fans - no doubt about that.
I like what you did there, Roonster me old chum - you took simple logic and blasted it wider than a Phil Jones penalty...
Ole will bite your hand off for that given the state now.7th-8th I imagine
Why do you think that?As long as we bring in 2 players in January I think we will finish the season stronger than we have started it. Top 6 finish
I cant think of many (or any) situations where a squad is crying out for something to the same extent that we are for creative players. A good right sided attacker and a number 10 would transform this team instantly.Why do you think that?
I'm asking cause I can't really think of many examples in the PL of clubs bringing in players in January and it improving their league position drastically like you're suggesting. Usually January signings turn out to be failures initially until they get a proper pre-season.
6th would still be pretty shocking with two January purchases, mind. I'm not even sure what the point of the purchases would be if they didn't result in a genuine push for top four either?
Might be because the reason many think we won't get top 4 isn't strictly due to the squad build up (not even the main reason). Ole might not be perfect or the guy long term, but plain and simple we need more and better players. We have no depth in midfield or attack, and even in our starting 11 we have like 3 positions who straight up are not good enough to be starters at a CL club. I can't fully blame Ole when a big part is just not having the squad to get better results and more consistent results. What I can blame Ole on is the performance and style of play in general, which hasn't been great. But i dont think anyone would really get this squad at a normal top 4 level without fixing the midfield and attack in the transfer market. Doesn't need too much, but the main things are not signing a midfielder to be the holding mid, and not replacing Lukaku in the squad.it's mad, 47% of people don't want him sacked yet 97% of people think we will miss out on top four. The f*ck are that 44% smoking if they think it's OK to keep a manager who has no chance of getting top four?
Transform it into a team that finishes sixth, though, so what's the point?I cant think of many (or any) situations where a squad is crying out for something to the same extent that we are for creative players. A good right sided attacker and a number 10 would transform this team instantly.
I do not in any way dispute that we need to sign players but I really struggle to understand what the point of doing so in January is, especially when players tend to be overpriced in January and have a far lower success rate when you buy them, if all he thinks we'll do when we sign these players is finish sixth?Might be because the reason many think we won't get top 4 isn't strictly due to the squad build up (not even the main reason). Ole might not be perfect or the guy long term, but plain and simple we need more and better players. We have no depth in midfield or attack, and even in our starting 11 we have like 3 positions who straight up are not good enough to be starters at a CL club. I can't fully blame Ole when a big part is just not having the squad to get better results and more consistent results. What I can blame Ole on is the performance and style of play in general, which hasn't been great. But i dont think anyone would really get this squad at a normal top 4 level without fixing the midfield and attack in the transfer market. Doesn't need too much, but the main things are not signing a midfielder to be the holding mid, and not replacing Lukaku in the squad.
This argument falls apart when you realise that the squad Ole inherited finished 2nd the season before under Mourinho. The narrative at the time was that Mourinho's negative tactics were holding us back and that we can challenge City if we improve upon it. Certainly capable of top 4 anyway.Might be because the reason many think we won't get top 4 isn't strictly due to the squad build up (not even the main reason). Ole might not be perfect or the guy long term, but plain and simple we need more and better players. We have no depth in midfield or attack, and even in our starting 11 we have like 3 positions who straight up are not good enough to be starters at a CL club. I can't fully blame Ole when a big part is just not having the squad to get better results and more consistent results. What I can blame Ole on is the performance and style of play in general, which hasn't been great. But i dont think anyone would really get this squad at a normal top 4 level without fixing the midfield and attack in the transfer market. Doesn't need too much, but the main things are not signing a midfielder to be the holding mid, and not replacing Lukaku in the squad.