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Maybe he isn't interested in signing for us, who knows."There's no one available! You know...besides the guy who won 3CL and 1 League title in the last 2 and 1/2 seasons"
Maybe he isn't interested in signing for us, who knows."There's no one available! You know...besides the guy who won 3CL and 1 League title in the last 2 and 1/2 seasons"
Because regardless of the last few seasons, you are still a big club.Don't think he's interested at all in this job.
Why would he be?
Anyone decent or with a bit of cop on will stay the hell away from us
Regardless of anything else, it will take years to sort out this mess and no manager is going to get the time.Because regardless of the last few seasons, you are still a big club.
"Football 'eritage"Next press conference he's coming out in a full Liverpool kit.
Jose fans will defend it.Next press conference he's coming out in a full Liverpool kit.
Only ones I've seen defend Mourinho are those trying to give a balanced view, whilst still saying he should be sacked.Jose fans will defend it.
I have heard this every year since 2013Taking over from Mourinhos failures has worked out really well before. Madrid won the champions league, Chelsea won the league and did reach the champions league final the first time against us after he left.
I think we could really kick on next season. The players will just be much more motivated without him and the confidence should return and just give everyone a boost. With 1-2 good signings I think we can challenge and beat City to the title next season! If we get a good manager of course and not Mourinhos twin or something .
What about the posts shitting on players and praising Jose as some winner?Only ones I've seen defend Mourinho are those trying to give a balanced view, whilst still saying he should be sacked.
No idea what posts you're reading
Keyser Jose.The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist
"you wanted us to look more like Liverpool"Jose fans will defend it.
Well, he is a winner. This will be and is his first proper failure as a manager.What about the posts shitting on players and praising Jose as some winner?
Mourinho guaranteeing instant success in the league also worked out very well before....except for us. Our problems are deeper rooted than Mourinho, as much as he needs to go ASAP.Taking over from Mourinhos failures has worked out really well before. Madrid won the champions league, Chelsea won the league and did reach the champions league final the first time against us after he left.
I think we could really kick on next season. The players will just be much more motivated without him and the confidence should return and just give everyone a boost. With 1-2 good signings I think we can challenge and beat City to the title next season! If we get a good manager of course and not Mourinhos twin or something .
Of course Woodward started the fire in the summer, and Jose started it on pitch. If we had 1 or 2 players playing below their level then yeah, you can question attitude, when whole team is playing below their level then it's easy to see where the problem is.Well, he is a winner. This will be and is his first proper failure as a manager.
Like it or not, the players deserve criticism for the shit they have served up. Some of them don't even look arsed playing for the crest on their jerseys
Of course Mourinho is to blame for his tactics and motivational skills as a whole. No one can dispute that. However, Woodward started this fire in the summer by not signing the players he wanted and then leaking it to the press and since then, we've had a roided up miserable Mourinho. Peak misery
I will never know the point in that
Woodward can't sign players that aren't for sale or that don't want join us, we have at least Perisic and Boateng saying that they declined the opportunity to join us. Then you don't know how much clubs asked for their players. Also it's Mourinho who spent the entire summer moaning about transfers.Well, he is a winner. This will be and is his first proper failure as a manager.
Like it or not, the players deserve criticism for the shit they have served up. Some of them don't even look arsed playing for the crest on their jerseys
Of course Mourinho is to blame for his tactics and motivational skills as a whole. No one can dispute that. However, Woodward started this fire in the summer by not signing the players he wanted and then leaking it to the press and since then, we've had a roided up miserable Mourinho. Peak misery
I will never know the point in that
Then what was the point in Woodward leaking it to the press that Mourinho's choice of players weren't what he wanted to sign?Woodward can't sign players that aren't for sale or that don't want join us, we have at least Perisic and Boateng saying that they declined the opportunity to join us. Then you don't know how much clubs asked for their players. Also it's Mourinho who spent the entire summer moaning about transfers.
Well you are clearly wrong. Whole football world revolves around ManUtd and if the player is not signed it's because Woodward didn't want to, nothing to do with player or other club's interest.Woodward can't sign players that aren't for sale or that don't want join us, we have at least Perisic and Boateng saying that they declined the opportunity to join us. Then you don't know how much clubs asked for their players. Also it's Mourinho who spent the entire summer moaning about transfers.
Disagree about their level...Of course Woodward started the fire in the summer, and Jose started it on pitch. If we had 1 or 2 players playing below their level then yeah, you can question attitude, when whole team is playing below their level then it's easy to see where the problem is.
He was a winner, not is.
Who said that?Well you are clearly wrong. Whole football world revolves around ManUtd and if the player is not signed it's because Woodward didn't want to, nothing to do with player or other club's interest.
Maybe you didn't get the memo.
It was an extremely stupid attempt at responding to Mourinho who was continuously saying that he was supposed to get players but wasn't getting them and didn't know why. I said at the time that it was a really stupid thing to leak because it exposed a rift between the manager and his superiors, these things have to stay in house.Then what was the point in Woodward leaking it to the press that Mourinho's choice of players weren't what he wanted to sign?
What was to be gained by doing that?
I didn't say you said that. There are more Jose defenders on this forum and I don't have to explain who said every point. Go and read some of the posts about lists, woodward and how he refused to sign Perisic, CB and few more players by 1 poster cheeky somethingWho said that?
If you made that up, how is that relevant?
Exactly.It was an extremely stupid attempt at responding to Mourinho who was continuously saying that he was supposed to get players but wasn't getting them and didn't know why. I said at the time that it was a really stupid thing to leak because it exposed a rift between the manager and his superiors, these things have to stay in house.
Keyser Jose.
He did refuse to sign Perisic though. The Maguire bullshit I don't believe for a second. Don't think the club were interested in him at all, Mourinho or Woodward.I didn't say you said that. There are more Jose defenders on this forum and I don't have to explain who said every point. Go and read some of the posts about lists, woodward and how he refused to sign Perisic, CB and few more players by 1 poster cheeky something
Didn't Perisic say last week that he had a big offer from ManUtd and he rejected it as he was sold by Spaletti's project? Again thanks for proving my point.He did refuse to sign Perisic though. The Maguire bullshit I don't believe for a second. Don't think the club were interested in him at all, Mourinho or Woodward.
Also, he balked at not selling Darmian over an extra million but, has him on big wages as he sits in Milan most weekends
Not arsed reading lists on here. Will take your word for it
Perisic said that he had the offer on the table but decided to stay at Inter because Spalletti convinced him.He did refuse to sign Perisic though. The Maguire bullshit I don't believe for a second. Don't think the club were interested in him at all, Mourinho or Woodward.
Also, he balked at not selling Darmian over an extra million but, has him on big wages as he sits in Milan most weekends
Not arsed reading lists on here. Will take your word for it
The trend for us, Madrid and Chelsea have been very similar. We did get the initial Mourinho boost just thast it was not really good enough this time. I think he has done a worse job here than at other clubs so that could help us even more once he is gone.Mourinho guaranteeing instant success in the league also worked out very well before....except for us. Our problems are deeper rooted than Mourinho, as much as he needs to go ASAP.
We also need Woodword to feck off back to the commercial side of things and bring in a DoF, so we have a long term plan and don't keep having to do expensive rebuilds every couple of years hiring managers who play a contrasting style of football.
We're a lot further away than one or two signings even if Pep was to take over.
Why not? I see a lot of potential motivation in a lot of the players just that right now the confidence is gone and Mourinho has really fecked everything up.I have heard this every year since 2013
Our players will not be motivated
They still had quality players, we don't.Taking over from Mourinhos failures has worked out really well before. Madrid won the champions league, Chelsea won the league and did reach the champions league final the first time against us after he left.
I think we could really kick on next season. The players will just be much more motivated without him and the confidence should return and just give everyone a boost. With 1-2 good signings I think we can challenge and beat City to the title next season! If we get a good manager of course and not Mourinhos twin or something .
There's a lot of truth in what you're saying but the fact that he's in the third year of his tenure at United forces even most of the fans who were initially in favour of his appointment, like me, see things from a different perspective.We can talk about what we spent but before he came we stagnated and let other teams buy players we should have got and since Sir Alex retired our transfer strategy has been a mess and a bit part of the money spent is on 2/3 players. | think it's an impossible job. To the average fan, Young and Valencia are NOT full backs. We're still looking for balance in central midfield and we have no constant wing threat on either side. We did well to finish second last season with this group and when you seemingly don't back the manager in the transfer window...your asking for problems. Jose has probably unsettled the defenders but there have been problems for a long time. because for a big team, we give so many chances away that are avoidable. The club needs to sell and it needs to buy but it's getting harder and harder with these oil clubs and owners who talk about value.
2nd place last season is as good as it gets. We don't have the squad and saying what we spent is ignoring what others have spent and because of others that 450 odd has not gone as far as it would have in the past. Yes Joses made mistakes but this group have shown they can go away and beat Juventus but they don't have the hunger over games at the minute to be consistant and this could be what the club needed. Someone needs to stop blowing smoke up peoples asses. The truth is we need to look at the things clearly. There's big expectation on rashford/Martial at a time other areas are malfunctioning. Even Lukakus struggling, a man who have proven he can score goals and be productive. Something needs to change.
Ah OK. Didn't read thatPerisic said that he had the offer on the table but decided to stay at Inter because Spalletti convinced him.
Smarmy cnutDidn't Perisic say last week that he had a big offer from ManUtd and he rejected it as he was sold by Spaletti's project? Again thanks for proving my point.
It will.Moyes and Van Gaal were sacked when they couldn't mathematically finish 4th anymore. I'd like to think it wouldn't come to that before we cut him loose.
February it is then!If all teams maintain their current points per game then we will be mathematically certain of finishing outside the top 4 in February.