I think spurs and city will beat us in same week if we dont get Mctominey and pogba back. Mourinho might tactically outsmart Ole and get 3 points and then we will be schooled by city style of football. Pressure back on Ole to go then.
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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I’m sorry but I don’t have a clue what you’re on about. You want a bang average player to keep getting game time just so he can carry on playing football? What?
As to spending £130m in defense, you can go look at my posts in the Maguire transfer forum. I have always been of the opinion that the money spent on Maguire should have been spent on midfielders and a striker. But we are where we are.
I changed my vote due to the changes he brought about in a game against Sheffield where we looked like a completely shit team, and somehow got us playing football again in that game. We had never seen him before be able to turn around a game. If he can instill fighting spirit to our players after playing so badly the first half, he deserves more time.
I don't intend to support Ole but you can't defend a lead with Lingard in CM beside Fred. I think getting Tuanzebe in to strengthen the midfield was the right decision... Just that we are not good enough. Even if we did concede a late equalizer the bigger problem is how clueless we looked.
This isn't a one off, we have played poorly throughout this season and today was no different. We have great players upfront, but we are poorly structured and can't keep a clean sheet to save our lives. It's beyond me that people refuse to blame the manager when there was plenty looking for Jose's head last year.
Why do you think that?
He’s so negative, a manager who can coach and actually wants to attack would make a big difference.
We can give him loads of time and money and with better players we’ll probably get better. But he’ll still be a negative and very limited manager.
We can give him loads of time and money and with better players we’ll probably get better. But he’ll still be a negative and very limited manager.
That makes no sense. Williams changed the game not Ole. Ole then changed the game to make us draw by taking off martial.
Because Woodward. He'll treat this draw today as an improvement. Also we're winning the next game against Villa. He has a big cushion from now on.
We need to sack him fast. We can still win the Europa league to qualify for CL.
What on earth can make you so sure?
“we set up wrong, showed zero signs of a plan or any coaching whatsoever, but a couple of moments of individual brilliance got us back into the game so I’m back to thinking he’s the man for the future even though his changes after we took the lead screwed us back up.”
Logic.
I’m certainly not. Any team can beat us at the moment.
Makes two subs to turn 0-2 into 3-2, but god forbid we put on a defender in injury time.
Feck off
I want us to win. But i also want the board to realise a year later we're no better. The only difference is this manager isn't actively trying to get the sack. We have no style of play. No identity. We are woeful. I'm not expecting us to win the league, but i do expect there to be a clear on field identity. There simply isn't one.
They're so fecking bad and we're at home. They're 17th in the table and only won 3 games so far this season. We'll win easily, 3-0 too.
I’ve always thought one of Ole’s main weakness was his inability to turn around a bad game. He made changes today In a game I thought would be impossible for us to get back in it.
The fact he was cheerful at the end of the game tells you all about his expectations and what he transmit to the team. He is plain average at best, all that speech about the time needed and seeing some players declarations like Rashford last week saying this is transitional and we wont get where we want in one year, its like we are ok with mediocrity.
As if we are giving a free pass to everyone just for the sake of it, the players seems comfortable and out of pression with the poor performances and poor results because the manager has make sure everyone notices that this is acceptable.
As if we are giving a free pass to everyone just for the sake of it, the players seems comfortable and out of pression with the poor performances and poor results because the manager has make sure everyone notices that this is acceptable.
Not what I said though was it. I said he’d actually make him play again. You started talking about his one patch of purple form like he’s been this crap all his career. Which is not true. So unless your going to have a honest conversation about him as a player. No point.
This is how I feel. I can take poor results if I can see something coming together, but bar moments of brilliance we look so clueless that it just isn't right to offer ole more time.
If we can get poch, we should offer him some the in the job this season to get his head around what needs to be done in the summer.
Just not good enough. This game today summed him up, even if he does it right at some point, he fecks it up again
He set us up wrong, like he often does unless it's against one of the "big" teams. Will he ever learn?
I am embarrassed to see the change in voting patterns based on singular results and now convinced that upwards of 30% of those voting are non-Utd fans as there is no rational way to explain how the garbage that is being served up by the current team is worth persevering with!
And now that a credible option has presented an opportunity to make a change, they still cannot fathom the absolute chasm between Ole and Poch in terms of coaching ability!
And now that a credible option has presented an opportunity to make a change, they still cannot fathom the absolute chasm between Ole and Poch in terms of coaching ability!
We were awful first half, everything was wrong and we had one shot. In second half until 70th minute we dodn't create anything. So it was not nothing new. But because of nice 10 minutes and 3 goals from 3 chances, he deserves to stay? How much shit people need to see to realise that he needs to go. Today. Especially in terms that Poch or Allegri will not be out of job for too long
Ole post match pretty clueless. Talking about our comeback as if we’re a team that’s challenging for the league and have a crap 70 mins are losing 2 nil and show character to comeback and draw/win
We need to be seeing not only results but performances, barely getting either under him.
I blame it more on our inability to see out games, part of which is the mental aspect of players, for equalizer. Bringing on Tuanzebe wasn't a bad move. We have seen that thousand times over the years by all clubs, bringing a CB to see out match. Note that we only had one CM on pitch that time. So, not much wrong with that sub. We could have cleared the ball few times but we didn't/couldn't.
Reverting to a back 5 when it was so bad for an hour was madness though.
Appreciate the 48% of the people who aren't trigger happy like the few. We just witnessed a very good comeback from a very young team. Ole made those positive changes that impacted this comeback but we couldn't hold on till the end. This is one of the hardest ground that we will goto after Anfield and Etihad and we showed that our spine is good and we can respond to a bad half. The team is very young and we are going to see these kind of performances. We cannot play like we playing against Brighton every week , we are going to see bad half like the one we saw today. Take aways is that we were able to turn it around and that's what impresses me. This team has character.
This. Says all you need to know about us.
Yeah could have played Axel as CM. Our players are bit weak too though. One can see that they get anxious in closing stages when we are defending one goal lead.
A turnaround? What?
Changed my vote to sack simply because Poch is available. It needs to be done ASAP
Might? Jose is tactical genius and I've no fecking idea what Ole is apart from a coward.
Apparently said this post match:
“it’s football. Sometimes it’s beyond tactics. The passion and drive ... they wanted it more than us.”
He loves that word passion
“it’s football. Sometimes it’s beyond tactics. The passion and drive ... they wanted it more than us.”
He loves that word passion
I’m a firm believer in giving people time, and while I think Ole has a good strategy to buying players that will benefit the club in years to come I feel like he just doesn’t have the coaching skills required at this level.
I think the sooner we can get a better coach in to improve our players the better.
As I said in another thread, Maurinho had the coaching skills but not the ability to mange the personalities. Ole has the ability to manage the personalities but not the coaching skills.
I have sadly changed my vote from keep to sack.
I think the sooner we can get a better coach in to improve our players the better.
As I said in another thread, Maurinho had the coaching skills but not the ability to mange the personalities. Ole has the ability to manage the personalities but not the coaching skills.
I have sadly changed my vote from keep to sack.
Do you realise that 52% out of a 100% isn’t the few?
We have only played like that a grand total of twice since the PSG games. I don't think you can say that when it so rare.
Some people are acting like it has only been one game where we have been playing poorly. No, we have been on terrible form for 30 games now.
31 games 10 wins - 32% win rate across all competitions since the PSG matches. On top of that, the performances are dire. I think it is pretty reasonable that people want him gone.
Knowing this season, City is the one game we get points in and help liverpool further.
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