Didn’t bother reading after this part because it’s as knee jerk as things get and everything you’ve written after it is completely irrelevant once we win on Thursday.Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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Didn’t bother reading after this part because it’s as knee jerk as things get and everything you’ve written after it is completely irrelevant once we win on Thursday.Top 4 without winning any cups was the absolute minimum for me this season. However good stints of football we play Ole should resign if he doesn't make that.
If we implode again like we did last season, it will clearly show 2 things.
1. A serious lack of bottle by the team and management.
2. A serious lack of squad management by Ole.
Both are equally concerning, if the unthinkable comes to pass and we screw up our next two games. However, I am confident we will qualify for top 4 easily and think we also have a very good chance in EL.
Ole though needs to manage his squad better. 80 mil on Harry now seems like a bigger joke when we see the quality of our squad depth.
Just looking for the white text. I mean, he's literally responding to a post denying he's said we were on a bad run of form, after categorically saying we're on a bad run of form. I've even responded overing up his exact words.
This place.
Seriously I don’t get this
Is this sarcasm or genuine? I can't tell anymore.
I hope one day you realise that no team is going to be amazing every game they play. We've got an amazing points return since the league resumed and played well for the majority of the fixtures.
Of course the first half of the season wasn't great, but a season is judged at the end and it looks like we'll be 3rd or 4th.
People are forgetting the size of the job Ole was faced with. He's improved the club in every regard since he took over. Rebuilds don't happen overnight but the right foundations are being laid.
Still sack. And without question. Again showed that he has small club mentality. First game in a while where we are not favourites and he decides to go defensive and wait for counters.
Not to mention that he made a mess about team selection. What was that today? Is he resting players? Or not? Or he does? I still don't know...
If we want to be 4th every year, he is the right manager because, i admit, he has a system which suits our player against smaller teams.
But with him we will never win anything.
Not to mention that he made a mess about team selection. What was that today? Is he resting players? Or not? Or he does? I still don't know...
If we want to be 4th every year, he is the right manager because, i admit, he has a system which suits our player against smaller teams.
But with him we will never win anything.
This is my thinking. We need to start behaving like a big club.
Our giddy ness of getting top four cost us a top manager previously. We should have binned LVG and got Klopp as soon as he said he’s leaving Dortmund.
Gets top 4 and europa and obviously he shouldn't be sacked. In fact just top 4 is enough given the improvement in play. But then needs to add depth and challenge next year
No thanks
If he doesn’t get top 4 he absolutely has to get sacked surely. Leicester are pretty much gift wrapping if for us recently.
I don’t think he’s a terrible manager, he’s really not bad at all. He just isn’t good enough to be Manchester United manager. Most concerning thing for me is moronic line ups like today & not being able to change things during a game when it’s not going for us.
We expect the best in the players, I think we should also look for that in a manager
Ole and the team had an off day. Dust off and move on to the next. There's very little doubt we've come on leaps and bounds over since January. Personally I was more concerned with the Leicester game today and it hurt more drawing to Southampton last week than today. I'm not saying the team should have put in such a mediocre performance.
We approached Klopp, do you not remember this? Woodward did the whole ‘Disneyland’ speech and turned him off completely
Poch hardly won against top 6 opposition. More knowledgable posters with stats should be able confirm.
Yep! I expected us to lose today to be honest.
2 days less rest than Chelsea, Ole had to make changes with the top 4 in touching distance as we have to win on Thursday.
Its shit but we’re still in with a chance at the Europa league at least
Hahahahahahahhahaahha
Thank you for that well thought out rebuttal.
4th game in 10 days. Fatigue does play a role. Add to that, while we weren't firing on all cylinders, seeing a teammate injured the way Bailly was it plays a role mentally. Remember the PSV game?
That was in 2013 or 2014. When Klopp was under contract. He wasn’t going to leave Dortmund.
Of course whilst at Liverpool he’s going to say how he rejected us. But I’m sure if we made approach in 2015, we would have got him. But our board were celebrating scraping fourth place with old man LVG rather than being progressive.
Ole is fecking loved in Manchester. As long as he keeps improving us he'll be here as long as he wants!!
Keep him. Seriously, we didn't think we had a hope of CL qualification, but here we are, plus we still have Europa league. Today was very poor, but the league is the priority. There are going to be bumps in the road, but overall Ole has done very well this season. He deserves the chance of a crack at next season.
We did draw a game to be fair
For this to be true, you have have to believe that progression doesn't exist?
If the season starts slow and we get better then thats genuine progression otherwise you are doing what you accuse Ole fans of doing. Pointing to one half of the season over the other. .
And as long as the 'improvement' will be imaginary, not something measurable, the number of trophies would increase by exactly 0.
Ole has been okay in general, all things considered. Some of the signings alright, some average, others poor and one very good.
I like his vision for the club but I think his position should be reviewed when the season is over.
Before anyone thinks its because of the loss today, I want to say I could care less about the result if he genuinely decided to rest the players.
My issue is with our defence and how we cant play out from the back. Wan Bissaka no matter how good he is one v one, he shouldnt have been signed in my opinion. He is just a bad footballer and Maguire is just slow. Cant have Matic , Lindelof and Maguire at the heart of our defence.
I like his vision for the club but I think his position should be reviewed when the season is over.
Before anyone thinks its because of the loss today, I want to say I could care less about the result if he genuinely decided to rest the players.
My issue is with our defence and how we cant play out from the back. Wan Bissaka no matter how good he is one v one, he shouldnt have been signed in my opinion. He is just a bad footballer and Maguire is just slow. Cant have Matic , Lindelof and Maguire at the heart of our defence.
An FA Cup in his first full season would have been nice but the goal has to be getting into the CL. So long as today is just a blip and we get the right results in the next 2 games his job should be safe.
I didn't say we've played well.
I said we have played fine, we've done what's needed to get a result, which is the same for almost every top club.
We played poorly today, today was a different performance to Soton or Palace.
I don't think so, Woodward was a big fan of Klopp, called him the 'hipsters' dream appointment. If we felt there was room to appoint him I'm sure we would have. Klopp didn't like the pressure of being the United manager, he wanted a team like Liverpool where he'd get 5 years to build something instead of getting the sack 7 months in like Moyes.
I believe that season starts in August and ends a few matches from now, not that it started 20 matches ago and finished 2 days ago. That in football is typically called a purple patch.
Behave ffs. How the hell are you sure of that
and what has poch ever won that puts him on a different level?
I hope this myth of him making good signings goes away now. Jury is out on most of his signings.
Maguire is far too slow. AWB isn’t good when we have the ball and Dan James is useless.
Maguire is far too slow. AWB isn’t good when we have the ball and Dan James is useless.
He can't win, can he....
Before Bruno - Beats all the big clubs but struggles to find a way through the smaller clubs who throw up the brick wall.
After Bruno signing - Finds the key to the door against all clubs.
The only thing Ole is guilty of is overplaying his key eleven, but given their displays when given a chance you can see why he kept with them now as the squad players have been awful.
Before Bruno - Beats all the big clubs but struggles to find a way through the smaller clubs who throw up the brick wall.
After Bruno signing - Finds the key to the door against all clubs.
The only thing Ole is guilty of is overplaying his key eleven, but given their displays when given a chance you can see why he kept with them now as the squad players have been awful.
Really hope he was wumming. Shocked that it wasn't Amadeus tbf
Maybe the players were not up to the task and Ole being tactically naive? If you're right he's not good tactically then he has certainly learnt a lot in a few months since the start of the season. We're nearly in touching distance of a European place from being 14th earlier.
If you can't see how United have improved since the LVG/Mourinho days then there's no point in talking to you about football.
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