Then how can you possibly use it as an argument?
Says the person trying to pretend he's an expert while knowing feck all. Get a life.Or maybe it's not even my career. Could even be it is though and I'm awesome at it while you're just an amateur and something of a dumbo clueless as to what it is you're seeing - or even if that isn't the case that I'm just smarter than you in general capable of looking beyond the results your feeble little brain chooses to obsess over. Or might be I'm wrong of course - there's always that. So many buts and ifs in all of this - and in life in general actually - "A fool sees not the same tree a wise man sees" and all that jazz. Either way - you bore me now so feck off please
Good post that makes a lot of sense and deserves to be in this thread.
Wow you know you are making some impression when people go back and search old posts. How much spare time do you have?
I'm not using it as an argument mate. Not claiming that Ole is a super coach or a bad one. I having stood behind any position on that. My argument has hopefully been fairly consistent. The squad has gaping holes and needs a major overhaul and his signings so far have been 3 for 3. Added to that our league performances this season have been better than results suggest.
so if you care enough feel free to go back an see if I've ever contradicted myself, but essentially this has been my view all season.Nah I won't do that, it's only a few weeks ago I said there's no point sacking Ole til the end of the season. There's nothing wrong with changing your opinion.I'm not using it as an argument mate. Not claiming that Ole is a super coach or a bad one. I having stood behind any position on that. My argument has hopefully been fairly consistent. The squad has gaping holes and needs a major overhaul and his signings so far have been 3 for 3. Added to that our league performances this season have been better than results suggest.
Now I'm paranoid that people care enough to go and search old posts
Yes. That is right. And lets support Lingard and Young and Matic and Jones also. Those who want better players should feck off and support City or Barca.
Nah it's just quick to do, click profile, posts and usually page 10ish is summer posts.
Erm, well yeah? They play for Utd.
Life isn't FIFA.
And let me tell you - when I have to watch a performance like last nights there are times when I feel immense frustration and disappointment and think fondly back to the good old days. I don't think I've ever had a moment where I've thought of Ole and concluded 'this is your fault'. I just don't see myself changing my view about him until he has had another opportunity to strengthen this squad. He could definitely use a couple of wins though.
Yeah the players aren't good enough but surely the manager should be able to get the team to play cohesive and effective football and with a certain style. Rochdale have vastly inferior players to ourselves yet they managed to pass the ball around and looked like they knew what they were doing. What is it that people see in Ole that makes them believe that in 12 months time he will improve himself to become an elite level manager, because no matter the results on the pitch, Manchester United is still an elite level club.
If I had a magic wand now and could guarantee that our best XI would be available every week for the rest of the season, I'd really fancy us to finish top four.
We had some abject performances under Sir Alex. They were largely and rightly forgotten because of his overall record. But Sir Alex could easily have been sacked in year 1.
AZ have only played on that pitch a handful of times as their stadium roof collapsed in August. Are things that bad that we are now happy with a 0-0 away draw, 0 shots on target, against AZ Alkmar in the Europa League? We changed the results when Ole first came in and then went on one of the worst run of results in our history, so what went wrong? I'll say it again, what do people see in Ole's management that they think he will improve to become an excellent manager because I can't see it myself?
We haven't competed for 6 years. There are no glory hunters left.
It is this kind of thinking that will ensure we don't challenge for the league until 2030.
Im inclined to agree with you particularly if his first 3 signings are anything to go by & I reckon IF he is given the next 4 or 5 transfer windows then he is going to turn United into regular title winners again & it is obvious that loads of jealous ABU clowns are ringing-up various phone-in's on Radio5 & Talksport pretending to be reds, whilst they call for. Ole to be sacked & it also has to be considered that sacking him would result in the deadwood in the squard getting a chance to fool a new manager into beliving they are worth keeping them-on even longer(by finding a bit of tempory good foarm), because as we all know how new manager's tend to come out & say that everyone start's afresh with a clean slate.
Agree with most of this. I would add that it is not just the board but other areas too. For example, scouting. Look at the dire signings and poor investments we’ve made through the years. It’s not as if the board has not invested in the club. You look at the other clubs that changed managers and were successful - it’s not just the manager who carried them to results and clear style of play - it’s because the whole club was run as a cohesive unit with the same vision and quality. There were signs of things at Utd not being all that great even during SAF’s time. The only reason we were still successful was just down to us having a man that held everything together through come hell or high water! He was one in a million person.
His 3 signings have been our 3 most successful signings since Fergie quit. He's faced a mountain of Jose expensive panic buys, Moyes Glasgow Celtic Level buys and Van Gaals endless midtable level injury prone buys - Rojo, Shaw, Martial, Herrera.
Didnt say I was happy with the result or the performance. My point was, all things considered, I wasn't surprised.
I think a lot don’t want him sacked now simply because of lack of alternatives which I understand... no stand out names, no stand out up and coming managers
Boom. Why are all of our fans not like this? Pathetic capitulation from the "top reds" bending the knee to the Glazers and accepting mediocrity. Pathetic. Great post.
The essentials of a long term plan are having the right people in key positions, a manager who can only in 5 in 19 and utterly fail to arrest the slide isn't one.
No. The mess started when we proudly thinks that fellow scot is our next fergie. We refuse to move on with times and deluded ourselves with stupid thoughs that moyes is the chosen one
Has it worked? No
And let's not forget that at one time Bailly and Mkhitaryan were considered good signings. The jury is still out on Maguire, AWB and James and their presence is not the reason to avoid looking at thi mess that Ole has to account for.
