Conte doesn’t fit the United way
And for this reason now Rodgers is the choosen one
Would you take Conte at United?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
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Conte doesn’t fit the United way
And for this reason now Rodgers is the choosen one
Conte doesn’t fit the United way
And for this reason now Rodgers is the choosen one
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A front line of Ronnie, Bale and Benzema all at their peak helps.
I'd be disappointed with Rodgers. Doesn't seem enough of a winner for me. By all accounts a better manager than Ole coaching wise but in terms of results Ole gives Brendan a good run for his money. Comparing his time with Liverpool and Solskjaers time with United. Both ultimately I don't feel belong at the elite level.
It appears we will have to have drive over the cliff before the board will act. Thelma and Louise are great admirers of United management.
Shambolic not to get this man in and let Sours have him.
I suppose we are pinning our hopes on Ten Haag and hoping Barca don't get him.
I suppose we are pinning our hopes on Ten Haag and hoping Barca don't get him.
So Conte doesnt fit the United way, but Ole and Brendan Rodgers do?
Yes, losing is the United way these days.
If your goal is to win the CL it does help but you still need to be an above average manager to win the league and 3 times the CL, otherwise Benitez and Ancelotti would have done it. He also won the league without Ronaldo and without peak Bale while reaching the CL semi finals.
True. After proving himself at Real, we should see what he can do with Molde before taking a chance on him.
The manager is the most important figure at a club, bar none. City have the unlimited funds but Liverpool are where they are because of one man, and that’s Klopp.
Chelsea were top four hopefuls that became European champions because of one man, who transformed their approach in a matter of weeks.
Players that were written off under a lesser coach, suddenly become coveted all over Europe (Rudiger, Jorginho, Alonso etc…).
People are looking at that Spurs team under the lens of a finished Mourinho. There are some real players there.
Conte means 4 CL spaces and 4 world class managers in the league.
He could quite easily galvanize that group of players and get a run of results, whereas we got 1 point from a run of Villa, Everton, Leicester, Liverpool and have now benched three of our best attackers to get a result.
A team that contains Fred, McTominey, Lindelof, Maguire and Shaw (on current form) and managed by someone not nearly the same quality, suddenly isn’t a sure bet anymore.
I am concerned if he goes there, and if has the effect that he usually does, suddenly “title challenge” becomes “top 4 bid”, becomes “hopeful teams above us can drop some points”
Ole should have gone after Liverpool. We could be under massive pressure now.
Chelsea were top four hopefuls that became European champions because of one man, who transformed their approach in a matter of weeks.
Players that were written off under a lesser coach, suddenly become coveted all over Europe (Rudiger, Jorginho, Alonso etc…).
People are looking at that Spurs team under the lens of a finished Mourinho. There are some real players there.
Conte means 4 CL spaces and 4 world class managers in the league.
He could quite easily galvanize that group of players and get a run of results, whereas we got 1 point from a run of Villa, Everton, Leicester, Liverpool and have now benched three of our best attackers to get a result.
A team that contains Fred, McTominey, Lindelof, Maguire and Shaw (on current form) and managed by someone not nearly the same quality, suddenly isn’t a sure bet anymore.
I am concerned if he goes there, and if has the effect that he usually does, suddenly “title challenge” becomes “top 4 bid”, becomes “hopeful teams above us can drop some points”
Ole should have gone after Liverpool. We could be under massive pressure now.
We won the battle but lost the war.
Hope you guys are happy.
Hope you guys are happy.
Spurs are a better squad than ole is a manager. Easily the worst in the league. So the test would be would conte finish higher than United if he managed a league 2 team.
I'd laugh my head of if Conte comes in at Spurs and pips United to 4th place. Although I wouldn't be laughing if we then sacked Solskjaer and got someone like Rodgers.
Weird reaction but ok
Hopefully he doesn't go to Spurs. At this point I'll be content if we slog this season with Ole. But we do not want Conte as an opponent, especially with Ole at the wheel. That's gonna be a big problem for us and finishing top 4th. Just keep Conte out of the PL until we sort our shit together (which won't be anytime soon by the looks of it).
An argument can be made that the better the player the least the need to be managed and maybe the art of management is to just guide the really good players in the right direction but that style needs top players and that is maybe Zidane's style but not of Benitez who possibly wants to impose himself more on the players.
Just too bizarre to even start.
In other words Zidane is a high level manager at the top? Because you see I do believe that different managers excel at different levels, a manager like Favre is excellent with a Europa League team and not so much with a CL and above team. But when it comes to United we are not talking about a midtable team we are talking about a team full of really good players that need to be guided toward the very top of Football which isn't something that an average manager can do and it's not something that they do.
Well I don't think Utd are a team with really good players so that is why I think he would not be a good fit for us.
It makes sense, since the fans are also lemmings.
Slipping through our fingers - Poch, Tuchal, Conte..... such an ambitious club.
Yes Dan James, Wan Bissaka, Telles, Van De Beek, Harry Maguire, Pellestri and Amad - those famous shirt sellers
you can question our transfer record but you cannot question that we back the manager bringing in players that they want. Just because we've signed some high profile players doesn't mean it was done for shirt sales and against the manager's wishes - almost always the biggest talents and best players are the highest profile players, are you suggesting Conte would be unhappy with us bringing in the biggest talents and best players available?The funds are there providing we're getting top 4 - we'll be able to give Conte what he wants within reason, I see no reason he can't put together the final couple of the pieces of the jigsaw and deliver us some trophies. Ship has sailed now though.
I think not appointing conte will bite us in the arse. If ole has another bad period and we need to sack him be no one available. Looks like if Juventus keep going the way they are this season, allegri will be sacked and Zidane will go in there I think. Leaves utd in a bad situation if the scenario is that ole is sacked.
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I really don't understand how Conte is not a manger that would fit into the 'United Way'. If you mean the 'United Way' as in not winning the league, then I see your point, but not in any other way.
It has been accepted on here that 5-3-2 is the way forward. A defensive formation has been accepted under Solskjaer, so that point is now mute when discussing Conte.
What I do not understand is why go with a 5-3-2 and stick with a low quality manager when you can appoint a specialist in it? Crazy, to be honest.
I'm not sure what he will be able to do with that Tottenham side, but it is a fantastic appointment for them if it goes through.
It has been accepted on here that 5-3-2 is the way forward. A defensive formation has been accepted under Solskjaer, so that point is now mute when discussing Conte.
What I do not understand is why go with a 5-3-2 and stick with a low quality manager when you can appoint a specialist in it? Crazy, to be honest.
I'm not sure what he will be able to do with that Tottenham side, but it is a fantastic appointment for them if it goes through.
Go support another club then you plastic. If you want us to lose games you're no Utd fan.
Tbf to the poster... what else can you do at that point? Missing out on top managers and the CL just because for some reason the board thinks Ole is going to turn into a good manager one day?
Who are you talking to?
I just don’t think that’s true. If you knew for a fact that losing a singular game would be better for the club in the long run would you not want them to lose? Maybe Conte isn’t the one you’d want that for. But if you’re dream manager was available and you knew Ole would be sacked and replaced by him, would you not want United to lose that one game?
You can say ‘no I want us to win every game’ but we aren’t going to and we’re going to lose/draw far more games with Ole in charge.
Rationally losing was and is probably the right move long term. Irrationally, I hope that we win every games and Ole is the messiah.
How have you come to this conclusion? We've played against a team low on confidence and in bad form and it's a formation we have hardly played.
If Utd wanted Conte he'd have been appointed by now. We clearly don't and he's going to Spurs. Don't think he'd fit in with our hierarchy anyway. He could fall out with a saint all told. Not really the personality the Glazers want is it? Not after the Jose farce.
Think we are waiting for Poch / Ten Hag in the summer.
The moaning brigade need to put their big boy pants on and get over it.
That's all a big if. Who's to say we'd sack Ole even if we lost vs Spurs. I think maybe 3 games he got are media invention and they're giving him till the end of the season or till top 4 is out of reach. If the board wanted Conte he'd he an United manager already
It's good for the narrative that it all depended upon game but nobody knows that and I'd be a betting person I'd bet we wouldn't have sacked Ole even if we lost to Spurs.
Maybe we'll go for Zidane, maybe we'll stick with Ole the whole season, who knows.
Man, get off your high horse. Winning against Spurs is meaninglses when Ole is still here. We might not even get top 4 at this rate, so what benefit would winning against Spurs have for us?
I wish the Internet was around in the late 80s and early 90s just for the receipts.
I think the point is we don't want to lose games anymore? And some feel that replacing Ole with Antonio Conte would go a long way to achieving that small goal.
Mods, do you need to change the title to " Would you take Nuno at United?" ?
So you wanted us to lose at the weekend? Can you just clarify that.
I don't think a defeat to Spurs would change their mind if a 5-0 home defeat to Liverpool didn't. They don't want Conte. Maybe they have somebody else in mind eh?
What a joke this fanbase has become. Half of you want wouldn't even be Utd fans if you were born after the turn of the millennium either.
Man the F up.
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