We have an incredible squad and spend the second most on the planet. Like feck is he turning it down.
Would you take Conte at United?
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as a chelsea fan i'm hoping you don't appoint conte because he'll be 1000 times better than Ole
Less than 2/1 now....done dealio
Yeah, sure he has.
He's even on record saying that he doesn't actually prefer 3 at the back. But in recent years he's often ended up with it - because it has suited his available personnel better (or so he has claimed).
He won the Serie A in a landslide with those players. It's a Serie A team it's not like they have unlimited funds to sign a 100m midfielder, an 80m centreback and a 40m + 80m bench warmer
Would gladly take him UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON, then evaluate the situation after that, it might be possible that during the end of the season the likes of Ten Hag, or even Pochettino, who knows who else, will become available for us to potentially consider. I would not say giving Conte a 2-3 year deal right now would be a good thing, personally.
We have murtough and fletcher helping to steer the recruitment now for medium and long term. So there wouldnt be any silly transfers. Utd are pass that stage now. Besides other than a midfielder or two the squad is good enough to challenge. Our firepower is ridiculous it's just that ole and co are good enough to maximise its potential.
Conte's teams play good, competent football and there isn't that much of a difference with Zidane approach, they are both pragmatic but it's good Football. They don't play negatively like Mourinho would and they don't undercoach their teams like Ole would. And none of these managers are attacking managers.
I really really hope I'm wrong, but I think Conte will be a disaster for us, on a similar scale to Mourinho.
We may have some short term success, some second tier trophies or perhaps even a miraculous league win (although Conte's record in Europe is pretty poor, so not expecting that), but we could easily be in a position a couple of years down the line where we need to re-hire Ole to put out fires all over again.
I'd much rather we looked at a less combustible manager like Zidane, or even one of the up and coming ones such as Ten Hag.
We may have some short term success, some second tier trophies or perhaps even a miraculous league win (although Conte's record in Europe is pretty poor, so not expecting that), but we could easily be in a position a couple of years down the line where we need to re-hire Ole to put out fires all over again.
I'd much rather we looked at a less combustible manager like Zidane, or even one of the up and coming ones such as Ten Hag.
Conte is a top top manager but I'm a tad skeptical of him here. He's basically the Mourinho we thought we were getting. Which could be excellent but it'll also require a lot of adjustment. I hope the development of young attackers like Greenwood and Sancho doesn't suffer and ideally I'd want to see a more exciting coach at United.
Yeah I'd prefer one of these coaches like play more free flowing attacking football. But if we go for Conte can only hope it works out well.
Absolutely do not want Conte at this club.
I actually feel like a few weeks ago, most would have agreed… but now it’s a case of wanting Ole gone so will accept anything. I think he’s a poor fit and it would be a knee jerk decision which is what we should be avoiding right now. Well run clubs don’t act like that.
I actually feel like a few weeks ago, most would have agreed… but now it’s a case of wanting Ole gone so will accept anything. I think he’s a poor fit and it would be a knee jerk decision which is what we should be avoiding right now. Well run clubs don’t act like that.
Wasnt a dig at you buddy at all. Just alot of lazy posts by other people. But your right some folk may not have seen his Juventus team.
If we win the league Conte will be an enormous success.
Agree with this. If we win the league, Conte will have been a good appointment
Would you mind if these players had the same development than the likes of Griezmann, Lemar, Carrasco, Joao Felix, Correa or Diego Costa?
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FFS why
Why not Zidane
Why not Zidane
His ideal formation - when he arrived at Chelsea - was (again, according to himself) actually a variation on the 4-2-4 theme...make of that what you will.
That's what Ole is - erm - accused of playing now (a horribly unbalanced version of it).
That's what Ole is - erm - accused of playing now (a horribly unbalanced version of it).
The difference between Mourinho and Conte is that Conte doesn’t leave clubs in a mess. He won trophies with Chelsea and Inter in his final seasons and left both squads in decent shape.
There is absolutely no doubt that he’ll fall out with our board, though. So would Klopp and Guardiola.
There is absolutely no doubt that he’ll fall out with our board, though. So would Klopp and Guardiola.
Looking at your user name you might be a bit biased - is that possible?
Not really. See Eriksen at Inter. Bruno is well capable of playing deeper and he does often for Portugal. Why we insist on sticking him so close to the striker is baffling to me when we are clearly being overrun in midfield.
Going by Ducker's report it's not going to be Conte.
No conte please, it will be a disaster of negative, boring, dull football.
Whatever might be thought of ole more but he's got the squad to a very good place and for the first time in years I enjoyed some of thy football the team was playing. Conte would destroy all that good work and take us back by years.
Whatever might be thought of ole more but he's got the squad to a very good place and for the first time in years I enjoyed some of thy football the team was playing. Conte would destroy all that good work and take us back by years.
He literally just wrote black and white facts though. And they are true.
If you want a trophy then he’s probably the best available manager right now to get you one.
What would worry me about him is that he might get rid of some fan favourites and he doesn’t give a feck if he destroys relationships if he gets results.
What would worry me about him is that he might get rid of some fan favourites and he doesn’t give a feck if he destroys relationships if he gets results.
I mean I disagree but it's an opinion that has a basis in reality, but what are the other options. It sounds like Ole is already gone. Too early to appoint a caretaker midseason.
Only Bayern Munich scored more league goals than Inter Milan last season in Europe's top 5 leagues.
Not if he leaves behind a smoking crater that takes years to recover from, Mourinho style.
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We haven't won the league in a decade. A league title in the next 2-3 years would be nothing short of a massive success.
We wouldn't take years to recover from Mourinho if we had a really good manager to replace him with. A team that finished 2nd doesn't need that much recovering from. Conte took over from Mourinhos Chelsea meltdown just fine. It'd what top managers do.
And yes, if a managers delivers our first title in nearly a decade. They can set the OT grass on fire and nobody will care. We haven't won a trophy in 4 years FFS
We’re trying to build a successful women’s team. Keep him away from our ground please.
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I really have to disagree with people that view Conte's style as negative. Is Chelsea under Tuchel negative? Yes it's not Dutch/Barca school or German pressing one, but it's very different from Mourinho and still a decent watch.
Personally would prefer Zidane or Ten Hag, but wouldn't be opposed to him. He's a coach that could turn our results around fast.
Not sure what Conte has to do with most of them?
Personally think going for another manager now other than Antonio Conte would show how far standards has fallen at the club. He is the best available, make him an offer he will not refuse.
No no no no NO!!!
The only way I see Bruno and Pogba playing together is a 3-5-2 tbh.
This is how I see our options with Conte:
GK
RCB CB LCB
RWB RCM LCM LWB
CAM (or RW)
RCF LCF
Or push the CAM up and make it a front 3 with wingers in half spaces. It's a mix of what he did with Chelsea and Inter. Plugging our players in:RCB CB LCB
RWB RCM LCM LWB
CAM (or RW)
RCF LCF
GK - De Gea/Henderson
RCB - Lindelof
CB - Varane
LCB - Maguire
RWB - Wan Bissaka/Dalot
RCM - Pogba/Van de Beek/McTominay
LCM - Matic/Fred
CAM/RW - Bruno/Sancho/Greenwood/Li gard
LF/LW - Rashford/Ronaldo/Martial
ST - Ronaldo/Cavani/Greenwood
It has balance. You have more defensive cover behind Pogba meaning you can afford to play Pogba in a midfield 2. We have probably a main front 3 of Bruno, Ronaldo and Rashford with Sancho, Cavani and Greenwood being the next 3.
Pretty much this:
De Gea
Lindelof Varane Maguire
Wan Bissaka Pogba Fred Shaw
Bruno
Ronaldo Rashford
Cavani, Greenwood, Sancho, Matic, McTominay all providing extra security. Or even Matic with Fred and Pogba competing with Bruno. Conte would have the balls to make these calls and be uncompromising in his views over who can play where - and that's what we need.Lindelof Varane Maguire
Wan Bissaka Pogba Fred Shaw
Bruno
Ronaldo Rashford
Conte is one of the few managers we could bring in who has the balls and track record of success to sit Ronaldo or any other big names if he thought it was best for the club. I don't see him being intimidated by anyone.
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