Does it matter? A lot thought Guardiola would only start 3 seasons but he’s happy and winning so he stuck around longer. Klopp has mentioned leaving by x date but what’s to say he won’t continue on as he seems to have such a good relationship with the club and fans.
Again, I rate Ten Hag very highly, but I still think you're overselling him here. Spurs are the proverbial Spurs because they never win anything. Ajax only has recurring dry spells of a few years. Not just the four years before Ten Hag, but also e.g. 90/91-92/93, 98/99-00/01, and most strikingly 04/05-09/10 (which was followed by 4 titles in a row). And they did win three FA cups during those dry spells.
Ogden says that he spoke to someone from United last year and asked them who they would look to potentially bring in now Klopp and Guardiola aren't available. And the 3 names he was given were Nagelsmann, Tuchel and Pochettino. Pochettino he says ticks all the boxes for United who he also says are huge admirers of his.
I rate Ten Hag, I think he plays wonderful football and he's definitely Tactically astute. My point was not for Ten Hag, it was for this idea that our fans/owner/boardroom seems to love, the idea of long term, we want a manager for 10+ years. Sorry, but those managers are a dime a dozen. We keep looking for the next Fergie like that's the only blueprint to success, it's the reason why we kept Ole so long when quite frankly he's a crap manager. You never know what will happen in a long term plan, long term plans are too variable and tbh there aren't many managers in the world that are like SAF. We need to start acting like a big club and get the best manager with the best CV and best experience available. Someone that has been in his prime at least within 2 seasons (not like Mourinho and LVG).
It does matter unfortunately, because we keep looking for a long term manager a 'new' Fergie it's what has kept Ole in the job so long even though it's been evident for at least a year that we're going nowhere under him. SAF was one in a billion we need to let it go and move on. Zlatan said it best he said United are still hanging on to the legacy of SAF and if they want to become successful again they have to let it go.
Ogden also seems to think that Sancho is only a right winger and being played out of position on the left, when he showed at Dortmund that he plays naturally on both wings and some have suggested the left side is his preferred side. He's not really on it.
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There is no pashun or whatever it is.
Dortmund look terrible there.
They did pretty to only lose that game 4-0.
They look like we have recently. Sluggish, out of position, no urgency.
And yet we didn't go out and try to get any of them, shambles of a club
Don't you see the ajax players clearly won all the 50/50s because they have more passion and desire.
Agreed, but there is no reason why we cant try and negotiate a deal with him still
He might be on some people’s shortlist at the club as reported, but my gut feeling that the decision makers are considering either Ole or Pochettino and no one else. Maybe Conte if they have no choice but to sack Ole mid-season. Perhaps I’m just being pessimistic due to all the noises coming out from the club at the moment. Total shambles.
yeah going on the clubs previous decisions over the last 8 years I’m not expecting much either.
Let's be honest. Poch is not coming mid season either. He has the chance to finally break his duck and win some silverware with PSG.
That's exactly why we'd miss out on him. You know how we usually do our business these last years.
Yeah Ten Hag isn’t available mid-season either. He’s having a wonderful season with Ajax, why would he risk ruining it by coming to us halfway? So I think the Board is hoping to keep Ole till the end of the season and then reassess from there.
You are right. If I were to chose I'd definitely have Conte over Poch.
Jose won the title 12 months before joining us with Chelsea, you're rewriting history if you're saying that the consensus was that he was washed up when he joined us.
Jose won the title in 14-15, the following season was probably Chelsea's worst season in modern history, he was sacked in December for losing 9 out of 16 epl matches. He then didn't join us until the 16-17 season. There were warning signs with Jose, but you're right the general consensus was that he's a world class manager and should win us the league soon. However, it didn't work out but that doesn't mean we stop hiring World class managers that have won it all i.e Conte just cos it didn't work out with Jose.
I think you mean the Ogden leak. A lot of posters have pointed out that he's been hit and miss since the Moyes days. Mostly miss.
What a laughable video this is. The horrible music, the silly animation, and all that over Ajax playing some random, pedestrian tempo, run-of-the-mill passing without ever being pressured even a little by what is apparently a BVB team at their worst. And then it's not even a goal.
No you're not supposed be impressed but I thought I'd share it due to the simplicity of execution with a strong emphasis on zonal and positional control as Ajax manouvered through the phases to carve up Dortmund, which they did.
Just want to be clear that I was attacking the video, not you posting it.
It looks great because the players know what they're supposed to do to get the ball from the back onto the attack. The problem is, for this year, with our current setup, do we have the midfield to replicate what Ajax was doing? Are they responsible enough to cover for say, Fred, if he makes a box to box run on attack? What does the team look like when they're being countered? I mean VdB looked like a star in that setup, so he's one guy that can make it work, but I'm not sure McT/Matic/etc are.
No problem mate, I mean I could've posted a longer version but was too lazy. But Ajax destroyed Dortmund in the game in question and could've won by 8 such was their zonal/positional dominance.
Tbh with you mate, I personally would hope a effort is made to integrate Hannibal Mejbri into the team. Not many of our fans talk about him but he's someone who I feel would be appreciated by a coach like Ten Hag. And Mejbri would also potentially benefit from a teacher like ten Hag along with the other young players we have the club.
Yes that's 12 months. He won the title in may 2015 and was appointed at United in may 2016..
