- Mar 6, 2021
I didn't say it's all that matters. The question is whether it matters to the broad statement that there has been no quantifiable progress as that's what I picked up on. In fact you went so far as to describe it as "invisible" and the only reason I picked up on it instead of some of the more interesting stuff you raised is you threw out something so ludicrously broad and difficult to substantiate.Why only the season where the manager lost the dressing room matters? We have seen top squads being shit when the manager loses the dressing room, to only instantly return to top squads when the manager changes. Chelsea does that every 3 years.
Why you do not compare with the season before that when we finished second and reached Europa's final? What signs of progress we showed last season compared to 20-21 season, while spending around 400m, half of which from ten Hag?
Progress: movement towards an improved condition. Quantifiable, I guess in football there is a lot of ways to quantify things. You chose xG because it suited your argument even though in truth there isn't an xG trophy. However I should add that you then try to get around the quantifiable examples I gave you with some spurious stuff about your opinion on other clubs (as if other clubs don't always have ups and downs and it isn't a fairly natural order of things for them to do so). In other words totally unquantifiable criteria based on your gut feeling.
The point remains, from the manager's entrance until now we moved from a condition of being in 6th to 3rd. I think, in the view of most reasonable observers that would be considered an improved condition in comparison to what preceded. It is also most definitely quantifiable, the number attached is 3rd and the progress is not only quantifiable but tangible, and anybody with any difficulty around that can go and view our trophy cabinet.
That's not to say we can't get into granular detail and nitpick xG, or look at our performance levels, or bring in all this other context, of course we can - but it still doesn't sustain this argument that there hasn't been quantifiable progress so that's where your argument lacked precision. It would be a much more balanced and convincing starting point to acknowledge that there has been quantifiable progress, but you are not happy with the rate or detail of the progress because of X reasons.