What happened with them?
Can everyone try not to bite at this load of banana.Died along with the whole Green and Gold campaign. Once we won a title and signed a few big names everyone was BFF's again.
Think you'll actually find that most who DID care, got fed up with Drasdo and the way the campaign was going.It's true to a large degree, most of the fans who wore it couldn't give a shit as long as title and few star names were secured.
They were never anywhere near having half enough of the dough required to even make a serious bid , just a publicity stunt me thinks.What happened with them?
This!!!You cant buy whats not for sale I guess.
I don't think shirt sales go into the Glazers pocket. Wasn't it a once off fee?Think you'll actually find that most who DID care, got fed up with Drasdo and the way the campaign was going.
You're right in the sense there was a lot of bandwagon jumping with Greend & Gold... Ending with the jokes about Chicharito 14 new shirts draped in scarves. But the primary aim was to raise awareness and get the media involved, which it did brilliantly. It also improved the atmosphere incredibly in the second half of that season ...
Basically. It would just be weird if they kept meeting up like some sort of clandestine council, plotting like a load of mad bastards. I'm sure they'll resurface if or when the club is made available for sale, when they might have some chance of doing something.You cant buy whats not for sale I guess.
This. The Glazers would happily sell if enough money was on offer. The problem is they weren't willing to offer as much and to meet fan demands (e.g. lower ticket prices) the value of the business would always be lower than for those who don't need to meet them.They were never anywhere near having half enough of the dough required to even make a serious bid , just a publicity stunt me thinks.
The continuing profits of Nike from the deal have a knock on effect on how much the club makes when renegoiating though. So shirt sales would still be very important to the club and damaging if people stopped buying them.I don't think shirt sales go into the Glazers pocket. Wasn't it a once off fee?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/1005794.stm
Then they are cnuts.It's true to a large degree, most of the fans who wore it couldn't give a shit as long as title and few star names were secured.
And we as good decent fans don't want to damage our club.The continuing profits of Nike from the deal have a knock on effect on how much the club makes when renegoiating though. So shirt sales would still be very important to the club and damaging if people stopped buying them.
Well it's gone from this...Then they are cnuts.
The continuing profits of Nike from the deal have a knock on effect on how much the club makes when renegoiating though. So shirt sales would still be very important to the club and damaging if people stopped buying them.
This is what I always say. The only way a proper impact can be made is stop attending games and arrange protests outside the ground during gametime.Same thing would happen if people stopped going to games, but it isn't going to happen.
Indeed. And rightly so.And we as good decent fans don't want to damage our club.
Never was a serious option I think. In the end it appears they really did not have the money to even put together a serious offer.What happened with them?
Hardly a fair comparison their my friend, a picture of the hardcore stretty end compared to tourists and day trippers in the southWell it's gone from this...
to this
The motto was "Green and Gold till the club is sold"
Tends to happen when you sprint blindly into a brick wall.Hardly a fair comparison their my friend, a picture of the hardcore stretty end compared to tourists and day trippers in the south
I know a lot of lads who simply refused to go to home games, gave up their season tickets. Some pay over the odds to go to as many away games as possible. Others fecked off to watch FCUoM.
Its fair to say its lost a little pace, it seemed to stem from the valuation the Glazers put on the club. You hardly even see the guys canvassing on SMB way much during match days these days either.
Hardly a fair comparison their my friend, a picture of the hardcore stretty end compared to tourists and day trippers in the south
I know a lot of lads who simply refused to go to home games, gave up their season tickets. Some pay over the odds to go to as many away games as possible. Others fecked off to watch FCUoM.
Its fair to say its lost a little pace, it seemed to stem from the valuation the Glazers put on the club. You hardly even see the guys canvassing on SMB way much during match days these days either.
What happened with them?
Correct mate the 1.2B valuation (at the time) killed the entire movement off.The Knights never came close to offering the actual value of the club. Iirc they were trying to buy at 1B. At the present share price, the club is worth almost twice that.
How so?I still wear my Green and Gold, every time I go Old Trafford there's less and less though. That campaign was relative to our performances on the pitch.
Your right RK, unfortunately (or fortunately) depending on which side of the fence your on. The G&G campaign coincided with a very successful time, even for our club. Three champions league finals in four years plus domestic honours.How so?
Let's say G&G was at it's peak in 09-10 at the AC Milan match (when Beckham put one on).
In the previous season, we'd won our third consecutive title and reached our second consecutive CL final. At the time of the Milan match, we were top of the league.
Unless I've misunderstood, and you meant that the campaign was positively correlated to our performances on the pitch, rather than the negative I have assumed. Either way your point doesn't make much sense though.
Weren't they also planning to leave the debt in place? So the result would have been no improvement on the financial front and a bunch of meddling twats for SAF to deal with. Wonderful.The Knights never came close to offering the actual value of the club. Iirc they were trying to buy at 1B. At the present share price, the club is worth almost twice that.
Who knows what they were planning?Weren't they also planning to leave the debt in place? So the result would have been no improvement on the financial front and a bunch of meddling twats for SAF to deal with. Wonderful.
Partially correct. The "Red Knights" (they weren't a static group, the term was given by the media to wealthy United fans willing to stump up cash to buy back the club and give it to the fans) didn't have anywhere near the Glazer valuation at the time. It's difficult to convince even United-supporting rich folk to hand over money on interest-free loans to allow the fans to buy back the club over a long period of time.They were never anywhere near having half enough of the dough required to even make a serious bid , just a publicity stunt me thinks.
It's a pity the fan ownership option wasn't vigorously pursued 20/25 years ago. It'll never happen now.Partially correct. The "Red Knights" (they weren't a static group, the term was given by the media to wealthy United fans willing to stump up cash to buy back the club and give it to the fans) didn't have anywhere near the Glazer valuation at the time. It's difficult to convince even United-supporting rich folk to hand over money on interest-free loans to allow the fans to buy back the club over a long period of time.
They called themselves the Red Knights.Partially correct. The "Red Knights" (they weren't a static group, the term was given by the media to wealthy United fans willing to stump up cash to buy back the club and give it to the fans) didn't have anywhere near the Glazer valuation at the time. It's difficult to convince even United-supporting rich folk to hand over money on interest-free loans to allow the fans to buy back the club over a long period of time.
Is that how you got the dildo idea?They called themselves the Red Knights.
"In the coming weeks the Red Knights will continue to work with MUST and others to formulate our proposal and further statements will be issued in due course," said the statement from the Red Knights.
The Guardian
Also, MUST called them the Red Knights.
MUST, which has been campaigning among the wider fan base to support any Knights-led buyout, said in a statement released this afternoon: “Of course wearen’t able to respond directly to comments attributed to unnamed sources but what we can say is that the description of the progress of the Red Knight proposal in the press is not consistent with the view that we hold having being involved in direct ongoing discussions with the Red Knight group."
Sporting Intelligence
You may feel it is to your benefit in hindsight to distance yourself and those involved from this embarrassment, but the fact is, this wasn't just some general notion which became exaggerated by 'the media', there was actually a group of men calling themselves the Red Knights with MUST at their knees sucking their cocks every step of the way.