This is just a masterplan to get Fellaini on the cheap.
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Most likely.
He's on his way to Arse, I think Grins
He's not at the top of every United fan's Christmas card list either.
has anything happened since the BBC and SSN said we made a bid?
So we offer an amount that is too low, Barca say no and say that Arsenal have first refusal on him. Barca then say to Arsenal that United want him, and they have rejected a bid on the basis that Arsenal have first refusal, and they are looking to sell him. Arsenal say they cannot accomodate him into their plans/wages right now, so have to say no. Barca then tell us that Arsenal no longer have first refusal, and its open season. We offer £35m and he's ours
Its on!!
Its on!!
a lot of wanking....
Must have spent the lonely hours away from Wendi learning Spanish.
He'd be a better option than Thiago for sure, but I can't see Barça selling.
And how dumb would he look going back to England after throwing the toys out of the pram to leave Arsenal, only to end up getting minutes against Gijon
And how dumb would he look going back to England after throwing the toys out of the pram to leave Arsenal, only to end up getting minutes against Gijon
Shite, I couldn't care less about not signing Nasri. Thankfully we were the only club interested in buying De Gea at the time. By most accounts Kagawa apparently only wanted to join us, so there was little room for us to feck that one up. I'm sorry but I stand by my original point, our recent record in closing foreign deals out has been rubbish. Sometimes there's perhaps not much we can do such as the Thiago case and others we perhaps get priced out of a move (Hazard) if reports are to be believed but still, it keeps happening. It all coincides with the sugar daddy era where these clubs offer the players big contracts. These days if you want a world class talent you have to pay the money or another club will gobble them up, considering our wealth in the global game that shouldn't be a huge issue.
Not dumb at all if he ends up with a couple of premier league medals and potentially a European cup as the main man in midfield.
He left Arsenal a team going nowhere to sign for the best team in Spain to win shitloads of trophies and then sign for the best team in England to win shitload of trophies. Don't think he'd look dumb in the slightest. No more than Andy Murray must feel a bit silly about going to those Spanish training camps when he was in his teens to improve his game now he's won Wimbledon.
No other top club wanted a goalkeeper when we signed De Gea. Rumour was that RvP expected Barca to come in for him, and, when they didn't, we were his second choice. I don't know how much competition there was for Kagawa. Other than Shinji (if he is an exception) we've failed in our pursuit of a long list of top young players for many years. If they're not born within a hundred miles of Old Trafford, or declare their unequivocal determination to come to us and no one else, we don't sign them.
As far as the Thiago/Fabregas thing is concerned, my interpretation is that we were very interested in both. Let's hope it ends 1-1. 0-2 would be hard for a muppet to bear.
am i the only perosn who is sure that this leak was done deliberately by club's PR brigade (i miss the Berbatov vs Tevez mega thread where this phrase was used so often...) to make us look bit better in the light of Thiago fiasco?
Incredibly arrogant to assume he'd instantly reject Arsenal for us.
How would a hopeless bid for another Barca player make the club look better, exactly?
Could it genuinely be that we weren't that interested in Thiago, and that we've been buttering up Cesc all along?
Would only serve to make us look bad if we fail to get him, but no, you're not the only one.
Well they're extremely shortsighted then. Trying to make us look better after a failed bid by going public with another bid that'd fail.
When you think back to the effort they put in to get him to leave Arsenal, I doubt they'd be keen to see the back of him at this point, unless things have gone radically wrong there. But Barca could put the word out and there would be no end of top midfielders (or their agents at least) beating a path to Camp Nou. They'd replace him in short order.
Personally, I'd test Madrid's resolve to hang on to Ozil before Jose makes a bid.
So if we sign Cex...who's going to be the first to bump the Sergio Canales thread??
Yep, we know how to do cheap, us tight-arsed Northern bastards.
The word Fellaini is destroying the Caf
He wouldn't look dumb in the slightest. He's won trophies at Barca, something he was unable to achieve at Arsenal.
What are you on about? Substitute him for Hazard if you must.Has anyone wondered how they come up with these random amounts as bids? 25.9? What is the completely arbitrary 900k doing there? Make it 26, for crying out loud
Its 30 million Euros
Those quotes from Moyes where he said something about him never confirming interest in Thiago seem to be pertinent now.
It's gonna be a long summer, if it's not Cesc then i can see us repeating the process with Ronaldo, Bale, Modric, failing on all and then settling for Felliani or worse Osman.
How much did Barca sign Cesc for?
Its not. We bid 30m euros which just happens to be 25.9 m gbp.
Did you just make that rumour up?
I honestly didn't think you were that stupid.
30m euros
But do we have any reason to believe Fabregas wants to leave Barcelona and/or that Barcelona are looking to sell Fabregas?
And do we know whether Arsenal's "right of refusal" clause operates only once, as you suggest, or does it operate in any bid that is tentaively "accepted" by Barcelona? I'd be very surprised if the clause in Arsenal's contract with Barcelona providing for the sale of Fabregas self-terminates after Barcelona rejects a third party's bid for Fabregas. The way I would expect it to work is that if Barcelona expresses an interest in accepting a bid for Fabregas that Arsenal would have a right to meet the offer from that third party. But then again, we're dealing with English and Spanish law so I have no idea what contract clauses are permissible there. Such a "third-party right to match" clause would likely run afoul of California law governing entertainment performance contracts -- at the very least, they are completely unheard of here.
But if the clause does operate as you suggest, and you may well be right about that, it would be a brilliant piece of business by United to effectively negate Arsenal's rights to Fabregas. I'm not sure how Arsenal's lawyers would have overlooked that possibility, but then again there's so much we don't know about what really goes on anything is possible.
Rising to 35m depending on appearances I thought?
you underestimated my idiocy. I'm a bit of a scatterbrain.
@dracula and evil chuck: thanks.
Not sure but actually I thought it was Rising to 30m euros. And that is also dependant on 3 la liga titles, so If we do get him, arse will lose money.
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