Van Piorsing
Lost his light sabre
This deal sounds surreal as this pic.
Fun times at Old Trafford are coming, people.
Fun times at Old Trafford are coming, people.
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That's a complete myth, he is absolutely fine is possession but its the common criticism a few on here use to beat him with. You make it sound like we have signed Lee Cattermole when Fellaini is a far more rounded footballer, he isn't some hacker who can't actually play which you will see if you give him a chance.He'll get exposed because he struggles to pass the ball.
He gets easily beaten by smaller players and is one of the most easily dispossessed players of the ball in the Everton team. He really needs to work on that part of his game.
As far as I'm aware, his form for Belgium is considered a bit underwhelming. No surprise as he usually plays CM there, not AM.We all know about Fellaini's strengths, but I hope we get to see a different side to him in his passing range and ability on the ball also.
He is clearly a very tidy player otherwise he would not be getting games in a very talented Belgium side - I think with our players around him his abilities will become even better.
His weakness is his passing, I think we can all agree on that. I guess we'll have to wait and see if it's good enough for our midfield.That's a complete myth, he is absolutely fine is possession but its the common criticism a few on here use to beat him with. You make it sound like we have signed Lee Cattermole when Fellaini is a far more rounded footballer, he isn't some hacker who can't actually play which you will see if you give him a chance.
If United had done it right, paid the cash along with Herrera and deposited the fee as two entities - rather than a individual - then the transfer would have been exempt from tax or VAT.
Gotta admit I think we knew this & it makes me seriously think there was some other motive for why the deal didn't go ahead.
Yeah tbh, I'd rather not know the reason. I'm pissed off enough. Really a big fan of Herrera.
Wasn't the tricky part giving Anders the €36m for the buy-out clause, but then the tax man saying to Anders "that's a taxable income @50%" - so we would have had to fork out €54m - if we were stupid enough that is.Agreed. I didn't think the tax was the issue either. I just replied to someone in this thread who said we were going to pay an additional 15M in tax.
Agreed. Non of us are really clued up enough to know exactly what went down.Wasn't the tricky part giving Anders the €36m for the buy-out clause, but then the tax man saying to Anders "that's a taxable income @50%" - so we would have had to fork out €54m - if we were stupid enough that is.
Wasn't that the same problem that Bayern had & the reason why they hired the Madrid Imposters to fix it & most likely the reason why United & Anders contacted the same dudes (Madrid Imposters) that his mate Martinez used to sort his move out. It took a couple of weeks for the deal to go through aswell, if memory serves?!
I'd love to know the full story of this shite, there could be legal wranglings about this too, it all sounds well dodgy. Like United leavin the scene of the crime & seeing nothing type of thing. With Ed, Moyesy & Anders brickin it that they're gonna get questioned about it. It all sounds fecked up anyway & no-one of any interest is reportin on the incident today. I went on UEFA.com 1st thing this morn & there's no mention of the imposters scenario & you'd think the cops would be onto this carry-on checkin it out or atleast the Spanish FA would be investigating...
Actually, no, his passing is not my main concern, especially if we play Kagawa/Rooney ahead of him.His weakness is his passing, I think we can all agree on that. I guess we'll have to wait and see if it's good enough for our midfield.
Actually, no, his passing is not my main concern, especially if we play Kagawa/Rooney ahead of him.
I am more worried about the defensive sides of his game; positioning and tracking. Not convinced he is mature enough in this aspects; I think his size masks a problem with positional discipline.
Say nathhhhin so eh?! Nudge nudge... wink wink...Agreed. Non of us are really clued up enough to know exactly what went down.
Let's hope so. In theory I agree, he should make a good partner for Carrick and would be well suited to playing behind a playmaker but with some license to get forward and make trouble in the box (arguably his best quality).I think his role at United will be more specific and the players around him will be of a higher level, so he will be a different player. Hopefully for the better.
those eyebrows..jeeze
Wasn't the tricky part giving Anders the €36m for the buy-out clause, but then the tax man saying to Anders "that's a taxable income @50%" - so we would have had to fork out €54m - if we were stupid enough that is.
Wasn't that the same problem that Bayern had & the reason why they hired the Madrid Imposters to fix it & most likely the reason why United & Anders contacted the same dudes (Madrid Imposters) that his mate Martinez used to sort his move out. It took a couple of weeks for the deal to go through aswell, if memory serves?!
I'd love to know the full story of this shite, there could be legal wranglings about this too, it all sounds well dodgy. Like United leavin the scene of the crime & seeing nothing type of thing. With Ed, Moyesy & Anders brickin it that they're gonna get questioned about it. It all sounds fecked up anyway & no-one of any interest is reportin on the incident today. I went on UEFA.com 1st thing this morn & there's no mention of the imposters scenario & you'd think the cops would be onto this carry-on checkin it out or atleast the Spanish FA would be investigating...
Don't stop flirting with me...carry onSay nathhhhin so eh?! Nudge nudge... wink wink...
Yep, hes far too classy to be the captain of the blue scum.Vincent Kompany @VincentKompany 3u
Congratulations@fellainiM ! Any countryman doing well, I'm happy for. So now we will be neighbours. Careful I can be quite noisy.. ;-)
Heh. I like Kompany. Can't help it.
The fee was too high, the circumstances ridiculous and the overall transfer window has been a shambles, but he will be a good signing for us I reckon.
No, as mentioned the club + Herrera would pay the fee together, not Herrera alone. This then makes the deal exempt from tax & VAT as you can can only tax a individual. Here's the FIFA ruling on the subject:Wasn't the tricky part giving Anders the €36m for the buy-out clause, but then the tax man saying to Anders "that's a taxable income @50%" - so we would have had to fork out €54m - if we were stupid enough that is.
Wasn't that the same problem that Bayern had & the reason why they hired the Madrid Imposters to fix it & most likely the reason why United & Anders contacted the same dudes (Madrid Imposters) that his mate Martinez used to sort his move out. It took a couple of weeks for the deal to go through aswell, if memory serves?!
And here's what jojojo added in the Herrara thread, which potentially did contribute to holding up the deal:Statute of the FIFA Article 17.2 comes into action which paves way for Bayern in their capture. The article states that the buyout clause must be paid by the player and his new club together and there is no obligation on the new club and respective player to pay taxation monies.
The transaction is exempt from VAT following the precedent set by Ronaldo’s transfer to Real Madrid 10 years ago. Liga de Futbol Profesional has it in good accord that binding the specified payment of the clause; clubs are exempt from this tax as it is considered compensatory in nature.
On the other hand, the proceedings are exempt from income tax depending on FIFA’s Article on Players' Status. Bayern together with the player will make payment of the clause, and hence, it will be a transaction between two clubs, two legal entities.
Since there is no individual involved, no income tax will be levied on the whole deal. The personal income tax applies only to individuals and therefore it is inapplicable in the current scenario.
The biggest issue for the club in using a release clause is that they will have to ask sports and tax lawyers to confirm the exact ruling and the wording of the contracts, and they'll want an indemnity in case of legal/tax office challenge.
It took Munich about a month to get the formal statements in place. We're on the Friday before a Monday deadline
No, I wouldn't say he is an idiot, just not a good enough football player.Idiot
Have you noticed that no-one is running with the Lawyers Firm thing instead of Imposters today though. Everyone (apart from us) seems to be just laughin about it & carrying-on, no-one's mentioned yer man's tweet about the Bayern-Martinez transfer & them being the same blokes. That's feckin strange that no-one's makin a bigger deal out of it & questioning what the hell was goin on!The use of the word "impostors" was coined in the SSN studio first, then it caught on and more news outlets went with it.
"Ohhhhhh Matronnnnnnn"Don't stop flirting with me...carry on
You're making me blush and I'm supposed to be angry re Missing out on Herrera!"Ohhhhhh Matronnnnnnn"