We achieved CL success and made the final a couple of other times since he was 'turfed out'. As a brilliant as he was getting rid of him did the club favours. Now, that doesn't mean I wouldn't want a young Roy Keane in the current wide. Not only was he a fantastic midfielder but he was an even better leader.
Keane: Fergie has massive ego
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I don't really get the part about Fergie continuing to strive for power and control even now he's retired; I don't see any evidence of that and it just sounds like a wild claim and unnecessary dig. All the other stuff, fair enough I guess but we've all heard it before and it's getting boring now. Both Fergie and Keane obviously have massive egos and flawed characters. But none of us fans want to see them slinging mud at eachother, it's just painful. Give it a rest man.
One successful egotist vs the other. Difference is I guess I find one egotist very endearing and likeable while I find the other to be a massive, bitter twat.
Very daft timing on the Fergie comments too, considering what Moyes is going through right now, but oh well.
Very daft timing on the Fergie comments too, considering what Moyes is going through right now, but oh well.
Don't disagree to be honest. If anything I thought him leaving helped us build a new side as it allowed other characters to take his place and flourish.. At the end of the day it's tough, he left when he was on the wane and I doubt there'd have been a way of handling that without him being at odds with it. I just don't blame him for being bitter about how it was handled, or generally have a problem with Roy Keane still being Roy Keane and having an opinion on things. He was critical enough of United when he played for them.
The problems we have now with lack of character have more gradually set in post Ronaldo than post Keane. The 06-07 side for example had as much fight and character as any United side under Fergie, and the 07-08 side came through a terrible start to the season by doing precisely what we seem unable to do now.
Yeah. Ironically only Rooney's carrying the fight this season. I suspect the old guard aren't as hungry or perhaps motivated enough by Moyes. Which is why we need an injection of new players.
Got nowt to do with it. Keane was one of the football greats on the pitch (apart from his Alfie Haaland assault) but his rants and pathetic attempts at management show him up to a pillock...he seriously needs some help.
Being "insulted" by Fergie's praise of his Juve performance in 99 is just mental. The whole "you wouldn't praise a postman for posting letters" analogy is absolute garbage. That logic suggests that no footballer is worthy of praise, ever, and it comes from someone who is a pundit who is paid to analyse, criticise, and praise!
That was one of the finest individual performances of recent times, and an utterly selfless performance to boot, knowing he wouldn't even make the final. He's received plaudits from all over for that game. I'm sure he wasn't "insulted" by the likes of Zidane and Xavi speaking highly of that performance, the twisted, contrarian cnut. His issue with Fergie just means he is refusing to accept a compliment from him.
Fergie was no angel. He's a ruthless man, as Keane is. But Roy Keane is also fecking barmy.
That was one of the finest individual performances of recent times, and an utterly selfless performance to boot, knowing he wouldn't even make the final. He's received plaudits from all over for that game. I'm sure he wasn't "insulted" by the likes of Zidane and Xavi speaking highly of that performance, the twisted, contrarian cnut. His issue with Fergie just means he is refusing to accept a compliment from him.
Fergie was no angel. He's a ruthless man, as Keane is. But Roy Keane is also fecking barmy.
Don't think is that much in the article. Obviously they don't see eye to eye but Roy has always been honest and up front, he gives his opinion. We always loved him for that when he played. He has always talked about what a great manager Sir Alex was, the media will try and twist words to make it sound like Keane is saying Fergie was shit but Keane has never said that.
They have just moved on.
They have just moved on.
There never was a more bitter man than Roy.
Bros, wring your panties out. These are two alpha males. Alpha males cannot get along. It is impossible. They can tolerate each other but eventually everything becomes a peepee swinging contest. Eventually they gotta tear each others throats out. Thats just how us Alpha males are, feel me?! ;p
Let me phrase it in a way you can understand what damning with faint praise means:
"Keane ran all game long that day. Just like Dirk Kuyt does every week. Magnificent!"
What's this gayness about a Keane vs. Vieira documentary?
You're missing the point. Keane is hardly going to take "he covered every blade of grass" as a compliment when he's the kind of guy who thinks that's the very least anyone should do. It's the kind of thing you say about someone who isn't very talented but works hard. I wouldn't be insulted by it but then again I'm a lazy cnut.
Is this idiot still relevant?
Still trying to make a name off Fergie
Still trying to make a name off Fergie
he's obsessed. no class.
i also felt that. what type of idiot does that knowing it would crank up healdines about a fellow manager who is struggling. self centered man is roy keane.
One of the greatest players to have ever played football. Nope can't see why he's still relevant
You're an idiot.
http://www.itv.com/sport/football/a...ears-in-my-car-when-i-left-manchester-united/
I didn't think Roy was capable of tears.
I didn't think Roy was capable of tears.
Suppose the timing of Fergie's book was ideal for Moyes then? Most of this nonsense started after that was released.
Exactly. Difference is, Keane doesn't work for this club anymore. Ferguson and Ferdinand do.
I know he was a great player. Just seems to be remembered nowadays for moaning at Fergie all the time, take that out of the equation no one hears about him
No. I remember him for being the best midfielder I've seen at this club. I genuinely couldn't care what he says about Ferguson, you're dealing with two egotists here. And Ferguson started the latest rounds by absolutely crucifying Keane in his book.
Yeh, my first thoughts of Keane are always his contribution to the club.
Understandable given how bad Keane spoke of United after he left, and keep repeating himself every 5 minutes!
People saying that slating the players in the MUTV interview was wrong are complete idiots.
We would kill for a player who did that to this lot. Imagine Phil Jones learning how to lead under Roy Keane.
We would kill for a player who did that to this lot. Imagine Phil Jones learning how to lead under Roy Keane.
People just accepted SAF's views on that situation, he was the 'complete idiot' that said it was wrong.
And who fell under the brunt of that criticism? Fletcher took about 4 years to actually become decent. Rio was a flash prick for years. Smudge and Richardson were shit. And O'Shea was a jack of all trades, master of none.
He gave Fergie an excuse to get rid of an aging player who had the potential to undermine him.
fecking hell
But surely you understand that something's are better left unsaid, even if they are true?
He was wrong to do it, the last time he did have a similar outburst was different, he was criticising established players who had won the treble, this is more acceptable for me than openly criticising young players who were still developing.
I do agree that there was an underlying issue between them which just came to a head during that incident though, but I see where SAF was coming from more than Keane in all honesty, SAF is used to having full control over the club and that was key to his success, he doesn't want to wake up to comments from Keane such as the ones Keane said.
In other news, sky is blue.
fergies book had no real comments that would affect moyes though did it?
Keane has got very bitter against us, just like Mark Hughes
Did you ever see Keane play? A nasty prick on the pitch. But a winner and fantastic player. He didn't make his name off your mgr.
Christ you lot are fecked in the head
Two club legends, two egotistical tyrants, two stubborn old fools. It's a shame they don't get on, it'll never end. 
No , he's remembered as a great midfielder . Again , none of this would be relevant if fergie hadn't written that book.
Anyway, you sure you seen Keane play? Fecking hell, I'm sticking up for Roy Keane.
Roy Keane with negative things to say about united and Fergie, nothing new here. The man really needs to let things go and move on
It had a lot more potential to affect Moyes yes. I I highly doubt Moyes was too pleased having to answer questions about what Fergie said about Rooney in the book for example. He wasn't in the job a wet week when that book was released and it caused a lot of controversy in the media, hardly ideal considering the amount of focus on Moyes all ready.
Don't know if this has been posted. If you ever thought he wasn't bitter, you might want to think again.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-greatest-manchester-united-team-8994001.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-greatest-manchester-united-team-8994001.html
I do not post often anymore but I just have to single out this retarded comment made.
Idiot? Make a name off Fergie? Seriously?
This dick obviously have not even seen Keane played before, judging from the joined date. If he unfortunately have not seen what Keane is all about to Man Utd in the 90s, kindly shut the feck up and avoid showing himself up for the ignorant fool that he is.
To see a Liverpool fan having to defend Keane against some of our ignorant fans is a sad day indeed.