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I watch for the tits and ass. I couldn't name most Divas until I started watching the show. I hope they add AJ Lee to the show.
Doubt it'll happen, it seems very much up to the diva. Don't think she's the type to get in, same with Kaitlyn when she was about.
 

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Doesn't feel like Mania week, staying up for Raw tonight will hopefully get me in the mood, Lesnar needs to assert himself a bit though, even to put the slightest doubt in our minds...

...having said that when my mate comes round, the Mrs sticks on the chicken wings and the beer is flowing Sunday night, I know I'll be up for it!

Back to my earlier point, one of these years they need to throw us a curve-ball - Lesnar pins Taker, 3 count, people react...Replays show that Taker's foot was underneath the rope (or on it), ref comes down and reverses the decision, Taker wins...surprised something like this hasn't been done already.
 
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Doesn't feel like Mania week, staying up for Raw tonight will hopefully get me in the mood, Lesnar needs to assert himself a bit though, even to put the slightest doubt in our minds...

...having said that when my mate comes round, the Mrs sticks on the chicken wings and the beer is flowing Sunday night, I know I'll be up for it!

Back to my earlier point, one of these years they need to throw us a curve-ball - Lesnar pins Taker, 3 count, people react...Replays show that Taker's foot was underneath the rope (or on it), ref comes down and reverses the decision, Taker wins...surprised something like this hasn't been done already.
that would be immense!
 

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that would be immense!
A lot of people would say it's cheap but at this stage you need to throw something different out there...as much as Taker V Lesnar has been brewing for a few years and (rumored) Sting V Taker next year is a dream match, there is only so long you can suspend belief that the streak may actually be broken.

They have made people believe it for years now one way or another -

WM23 - Batista was Taker's biggest challenge to date, Batista was close on numerous occasions
WM24 - Edge, probably at his peak gets put on last, you start to think something major is going to close the show and maybe Edge could do it?
WM25 & WM26 - Two stunning matches, Michaels career on the line, a few scares, a few moments that made you think maybe, just maybe the streak may go
WM27 & WM28 - Any man who says he didn't think "this might actually be it" as HHH posed after the tombstone at 27 or after the SCM/Pedigree combo at WM28, is a liar!
WM29 - Punk off the back of a year+ title reign had a major shot and the build was good (always say Punk at 400+ days Vs Taker's Streak would have been an epic but oh well), odd moment of doubt

Now this year, I see no issue with Lesnar - it's just not happening, I just do not buy it sadly which makes it a bit of a null and void for me as much as I'm sure the match will be somewhere between very good and superb. If rumors are true and Sting will challenge Taker either this coming Sunday or next Monday, to a match in 12 months time, then again as much as it is a total dream match, I see no reason to believe the streak is under threat.

If Taker had 1 match left in him, at Mania and I had to make people believe the Streak could be under threat there is only one man for the job - Cena. That match is money.
 

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A lot of people would say it's cheap but at this stage you need to throw something different out there...as much as Taker V Lesnar has been brewing for a few years and (rumored) Sting V Taker next year is a dream match, there is only so long you can suspend belief that the streak may actually be broken.

They have made people believe it for years now one way or another -

WM23 - Batista was Taker's biggest challenge to date, Batista was close on numerous occasions
WM24 - Edge, probably at his peak gets put on last, you start to think something major is going to close the show and maybe Edge could do it?
WM25 & WM26 - Two stunning matches, Michaels career on the line, a few scares, a few moments that made you think maybe, just maybe the streak may go
WM27 & WM28 - Any man who says he didn't think "this might actually be it" as HHH posed after the tombstone at 27 or after the SCM/Pedigree combo at WM28, is a liar!
WM29 - Punk off the back of a year+ title reign had a major shot and the build was good (always say Punk at 400+ days Vs Taker's Streak would have been an epic but oh well), odd moment of doubt

Now this year, I see no issue with Lesnar - it's just not happening, I just do not buy it sadly which makes it a bit of a null and void for me as much as I'm sure the match will be somewhere between very good and superb. If rumors are true and Sting will challenge Taker either this coming Sunday or next Monday, to a match in 12 months time, then again as much as it is a total dream match, I see no reason to believe the streak is under threat.

If Taker had 1 match left in him, at Mania and I had to make people believe the Streak could be under threat there is only one man for the job - Cena. That match is money.
Not in touch with WWE at all now days but using Cena to break Taker's streak and turn him heel has been 3-4 years over due
 

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Not in touch with WWE at all now days but using Cena to break Taker's streak and turn him heel has been 3-4 years over due
Cena doesn't even have to break it to turn heel - just being a legitimate threat is enough, that is what the streak is lacking now and hell, down the line if the records read Kane, Superfly, Roberts, HBK, Punk, Cena, Sting, Lesnar, Batista, Orton, HHH, you look and you say f yeah, the streak but you'd be ignoring the fact that nobody was a legitimate threat for the last 3 years (at least).

Like I said earlier and people seem to agree with, sell us all a lemon...make it look like the streak has been beaten, make the ref error as subtle as possible, have taker kick out as the refs hand its the mat for 3 demanding a split screen replay - anything just to say "the streak can still be used as a meaningful story arc" because at the moment do any of us really think its anything but a foregone conclusion? It's a shame really it could be still be used so much better but heh-heh, its not up to me i suppose.
 

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A lot of people would say it's cheap but at this stage you need to throw something different out there...as much as Taker V Lesnar has been brewing for a few years and (rumored) Sting V Taker next year is a dream match, there is only so long you can suspend belief that the streak may actually be broken.

They have made people believe it for years now one way or another -

WM23 - Batista was Taker's biggest challenge to date, Batista was close on numerous occasions
WM24 - Edge, probably at his peak gets put on last, you start to think something major is going to close the show and maybe Edge could do it?
WM25 & WM26 - Two stunning matches, Michaels career on the line, a few scares, a few moments that made you think maybe, just maybe the streak may go
WM27 & WM28 - Any man who says he didn't think "this might actually be it" as HHH posed after the tombstone at 27 or after the SCM/Pedigree combo at WM28, is a liar!
WM29 - Punk off the back of a year+ title reign had a major shot and the build was good (always say Punk at 400+ days Vs Taker's Streak would have been an epic but oh well), odd moment of doubt

Now this year, I see no issue with Lesnar - it's just not happening, I just do not buy it sadly which makes it a bit of a null and void for me as much as I'm sure the match will be somewhere between very good and superb. If rumors are true and Sting will challenge Taker either this coming Sunday or next Monday, to a match in 12 months time, then again as much as it is a total dream match, I see no reason to believe the streak is under threat.

If Taker had 1 match left in him, at Mania and I had to make people believe the Streak could be under threat there is only one man for the job - Cena. That match is money.
For me, Undertaker winning the streak match has been the most predictable match at mania for the last five years. Probably only Cena beating Rock last year was more predictable.

Never thought Micheals or part-time HHH would beat him. Undertaker kicking out of everything at Mania was really clinched after the two matches with Micheals so can't really say HHH tombstoning him or the double sweet chin music or Pedigree made me think he was going to lose.

Punk was never going to beat Taker after he used Paul Bearer death as part of his promos and build up.

The streak match is still normally the best match on the card and Undertaker only wrestles one PPV so the the fact it is predictable is no bad thing but the result is predictable and I think the same about Sunday's match. As soon as the streaks ends, the Undertaker aura for mania is pretty much over.

Think WWE missed a trick not promoting the real life MMA incident as the drive behind this fued as it would have made this match different from the usual Streak match but I'd still guess their match will be there with Bryan's match as the best of the night.

Cena is literally the only guy where I'd be unsure who would win and it would have been good to have that this year.
 

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Christ, I've forgotten how much I hate watching RAW live.

Bed time.
 

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For me, Undertaker winning the streak match has been the most predictable match at mania for the last five years. Probably only Cena beating Rock last year was more predictable.

Never thought Micheals or part-time HHH would beat him. Undertaker kicking out of everything at Mania was really clinched after the two matches with Micheals so can't really say HHH tomb-stoning him or the double sweet chin music or Pedigree made me think he was going to lose.

Punk was never going to beat Taker after he used Paul Bearer death as part of his promos and build up.

The streak match is still normally the best match on the card and Undertaker only wrestles one PPV so the the fact it is predictable is no bad thing but the result is predictable and I think the same about Sunday's match. As soon as the streaks ends, the Undertaker aura for mania is pretty much over.

Think WWE missed a trick not promoting the real life MMA incident as the drive behind this feud as it would have made this match different from the usual Streak match but I'd still guess their match will be there with Bryan's match as the best of the night.

Cena is literally the only guy where I'd be unsure who would win and it would have been good to have that this year.
Totally agree that they should have use the legit incidents in the past as build, hell even bring up their brutal rivalry in '03 - kind of don't give a crap about it even though it will be quite decent. Like I've attested to, they should just throw a spanner in the works. False finishes aren't hard and to be honest aren't always clever but can you imagine the reaction thinking that Lesnar has actually done it only for a ref to come sprinting down and point out the error. The crowd reactions for firstly the shock win and then the reversal of decision would be off the charts.

Like I said earlier, the only problem now is that if Lesnar is this year and Sting next, you're waiting 2 year hoping that Cena will be in the right place creativity to pose a threat - or, if Taker can go that long have somebody else fall victim at XXXII and have Cena be the only thing standing between Taker and 25-0.
 

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On another note I love me some Summer Rae almost as much as I love me some Renee Young.
 

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Hindsight being what it is - it's a damn shame the main event for the night isn't HHH vs. Bryan for the title ... thats the hot match, and the one that people want to see... nobody really gives two shits about Orton/Batista.

If anything, I now wouldn't be against HHH getting into that main event so it's a Fatal 4-Way... In fact, I wouldn't be against him beating Bryan through dodgy means, only for Vince (or even Hogan!) to call him out on the screwy finish and put Bryan into the Main Event. Bryan can then pin HHH in the Main Event - giving all 3 of his opponents legitimate gripes going forward...