Suarez bites | "sorry for falling into him and biting him and that"

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Force doesn't work. If you don't accept you've done wrong no psychiatrist in the world can help you. All it would do would be to further strengthen his sense of injustice at being punished for no reason.
If so then admittedly it looks much more complicated than I had looked initially.

Doesn't change my perception that Suarez is a cnut that doesn't deserve time on the pitch, though. In fact that makes it even worse, knowing that he probably won't stop his devious behavior on pitch once he returns to the scene.
 

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My 2 cents. FIFA is an assosiation, they're not bound by many things. The World cup is their event, they can refuse entry, allow entry, etc.

Just like a club, they can refuse entry to certain player or countries they deemed fit

EDIT: just like if you're not invited to a party, you can't really complain of discrimination (although the global stature of FIFA will make sure they do everything fair and open, but i don't think officially they owe anything to anyone)
I agree and that would be logical, but Fifa's own laws have to operate inside legality and that's were there could be a conflict between Fifa's right to enforce their rules and Suarez's right to work and earn a living in his trade.

I still think they can ban him but it makes me wonder.
 

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I agree and that would be logical, but Fifa's own laws have to operate inside legality and that's were there could be a conflict between Fifa's right to enforce their rules and Suarez's right to work and earn a living in his trade.

I still think they can ban him but it makes me wonder.
That shouldn't be a problem, they have it covered in their rules book. He did broke the rules, so punishment is fair and square (although the length of it is subjective)
 

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Facing up to a two year ban.Never happen ,but the thought is nice.
 

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Roy Hodgson will have been delighted. His bottom finish has been relegated to the back pages now.
Add that to the list of RAWK theories.

"Roy Hodgson made him do it, to take attention off England"
 

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Scousers ! These f*ckers cant catch a break can they.

Its fairly clear from past history that banning Luis Suarez for a couple of months has no impact on his behaviour whatsoever.

I would like to ask those Liverpool fans in his corner what retrospective action they feel FIFA should take in light of his latest bite. @BarneyLFC @PickledRed @ShadesOfTomato
No deflection tactics, just what action do you feel will help Suarez to shake off this clear mental issue he's been forcing upon the footballing world ?
 

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As disgusting as biting is I do agree with the idea that an individual incident should not be seen as worse than a deliberate leg breaker or other serious violent conduct.

The first bite can be put down to out of control recklessness, and is in a similar category to the Rijkaard's spitting incident, a few games ban seems fair.

The second time it happens it suggests that their is a problem with the individual that needs to be dealt with, but he should be allowed to prove that it
has been dealt with, a longer ban and the understanding that serious help will be sought seems fair.

A third incident suggests either total neglect of the problem, or a problem that possibly can't easily be dealt with. Either way a lengthy ban should be given perhaps 6-12 months I'm not sure, but he has to show real contrition and a willingness to change before he should be allowed back on a pitch. It's gone beyond banning him for punishment sake, now the authorities should be looking at other players safety and the image of the game.

So he'll probably get a 3 match ban and a stern telling off from Sep.
 

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It clearly did when he was with him as he was pretty well behaved.
The notion that he can't go a few weeks without his sports psychiatrist before falling off the wagon looks silly.

He needs serious help.
 

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I personally think everyone is over reacting. Over reacting in his defence and in his prosecution. Idiots claiming he's done nothing and it's a media frenzy around him need to grow up and accept that he is a dirty player,who, when he gets frustrated (especially when dealing with markers), reacts in dirty tactics, horrendous tackles, high kicks, biting and racist remarks. Long term bans are also over the top here. Personally I think a 2 match international ban would suffice and it be made clear that this is a result of not just this but his previous events all of which except the biting seems to have been forgotten. It would leave Uruguay in no doubt that he obtained the ban for his actions and would result in that national team losing their best player for the knock out rounds. It would place the blame solely on Suarez and would hopefully drive the point home into that head of his that it's not acceptable. All this he has psychological problems is also the biggest load of horse shit as well. He does it to affect the game not because he suffers from a physical, chemical, or cognitive disorder.
So his previous 2 bans were well over the top?, and due to repeat offence should be given a much smaller ban?

He's done it again, he should be banned for longer than before. In any case, the 10-13 game bans don't work, he needs to be banned longer to get the message across or wear a muzzle or something.
 

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It clearly did when he was with him as he was pretty well behaved.
Oh, right. So he needs a psychiatrist on the pitch with him then.

If it went well he wouldn't have done it again so soon after the Ivanovic incident. In his own mind there's nothing wrong with biting people. Until he accepts it's wrong nothing will change and he'll go on doing it.
 

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This is a weird British thing. You are not normal to think like this.
I don't really care what you think, but thanks. What isn't normal is biting, and what further isn't normal is douchebag liverpool fans who try to brush it off by saying other things are worse in football.

Worst bunch of fans, or collective group of humans, in history.
 

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I bet Suarez gets away with this, bet he gets a slap on the hand with a wet noodle. 1 match ban probably.
 

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, and what further isn't normal is douchebag liverpool fans who try to brush it off by saying other things are worse in football.
Not trying to brush it off - but it is worth pointing out that there are worse things when people get all "ermahgawd, worst thing eva."
 

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Rawk is a special bunch.
All Liverpool fans i know despise his behaviour, but very few are sure of what to make of it from Liverpool's point of view. My closest Liverpool-supporting friend says they should get rid of him because it's damaging to the clubs reputation to stand by him through all his antics.
Damaging to the club's reputation? I can't think why any supporter would genuinely care about the club's reputation. That's the type of stuff sponsors and the like should concern themselves over. It's also greatly ironic that a Liverpool supporter cares about our reputation.
 

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I agree and that would be logical, but Fifa's own laws have to operate inside legality and that's were there could be a conflict between Fifa's right to enforce their rules and Suarez's right to work and earn a living in his trade.

I still think they can ban him but it makes me wonder.
That only applies to legislation, not punishment, his right to earn his living would only be an issue where he refused his right to play for example, because of his buck teeth, or the fact he worships vampires.

You couldn't have lifetime bans for drug offences otherwise, or match fixing.
 

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What is it with the dippers on here and use of 'faux outrage'? They've all said it now :lol:

It's pathetic how many posts start with "well he's done wrong innit, but..." from you lot. Arguing over leg breakers and all that to mask what your player has yet again done really is daft, but just like this sort of thing is expected from Suarez, just like the reaction from Liverpool fans is expected from everyone else.
 

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I bet Suarez gets away with this, bet he gets a slap on the hand with a wet noodle. 1 match ban probably.
There is always a possibility that Blatter has one of his brainfarts and decides that this is just part of the charming unpredictability of the world cup, like women sitting on the tv panels and such, and should be treated with sympathy and a quiet chuckle.
 

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I do think his biting shenanigans have been blown out of proportion. I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as a dangerously high two footed tackle, an elbow, a headbutt etc. As an isolated incident, it shouldn't be viewed any differently to any other type of violent conduct, so three matches. I am obviously aware that this is a repeated offence but what would happen to a player if he elbowed three times over (how many years? 3?) a few years? Doubt it would amount to too much. It's just because it's culturally taboo. I think this is the most disgraceful thing I've ever seen on a football pitch and Thatcher had 8 matches for this:


A hundred Suarez bites is nowhere near as bad as that.
 

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I don't really care what you think, but thanks. What isn't normal is biting, and what further isn't normal is douchebag liverpool fans who try to brush it off by saying other things are worse in football.

Worst bunch of fans, or collective group of humans, in history.
FFS. :lol:
 

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Oh, right. So he needs a psychiatrist on the pitch with him then.

If it went well he wouldn't have done it again so soon after the Ivanovic incident. In his own mind there's nothing wrong with biting people. Until he accepts it's wrong nothing will change and he'll go on doing it.
Suarez isn't an idiot. He definitely knows you can't bite someone.
 

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That's really not just a weird British thing. People all over the world are weird like that.
That they would rather be kung-fu kicked than bitten? Or rather punched in the face than spat on?

No, I think not.
 

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LOL, it's funny because I wrote that.

Oh wait.
Don't get upset :).

Suarez incident with detract from a lot of things, who gives a shit? England been out for a week now, time to move on, other countries have been knocked out since and all of this is perfectly normal in any competition. Far more interesting is the chap who can't seem to stop biting everyone.
 

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Some people need to understand that human biting is extremely dangerous, in fact, it's more dangerous than animal biting, look it up.

In my view suarez as a player isn't worse than most cnuts in football, but this incident proves that he has no control over himself, imagine cantona kicking a fan 3 times, or rio missing 3 drug tests, some incidents are meant to happen just once, this is his 3rd time, it's not normal.
 

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Some people need to understand that human biting is extremely dangerous, in fact, it's more dangerous than animal biting, look it up.

In my view suarez as a player isn't worse than most cnuts in football, but this incident proves that he has no control over himself, imagine cantona kicking a fan 3 times, or rio missing 3 drug tests, some incidents are meant to happen just once, this is his 3rd time, it's not normal.
Tell that to a lion.
 

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That they would rather be kung-fu kicked than bitten? Or rather punched in the face than spat on?

No, I think not.
Wut? Being spat in the face is disgusting and has to do with pride. Definitely not a British thing.
 

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Suarez isn't an idiot. He definitely knows you can't bite someone.
Therefore it follows that any psychiatric help he's had hasn't worked. If he knows something he does is wrong but he keeps on doing it nonetheless what other conclusion can you come to?