Suarez bites | "sorry for falling into him and biting him and that"

[cesc's_mullet]

What's AFL? Sounds brutal.

Australian Rules Football (AFL stands for Australian Football League).

YouTube some highlights or big hits and great marks if you want to see something.

 

[Mockney]

It's one of those weird insular sports only played in one or two countries and not picked up by the world at large. Like hurling. Or cricket.

 

[PlayerOne]

Australian Rules Football (AFL stands for Australian Football League).

YouTube some highlights or big hits and great marks if you want to see something.

I had a teacher who used to play it. That sport is insane, I don't know how they don't get so many injuries every game.

 

[AllezLesDiables]

I'm sorry about that - was a cheap shot.

I still think we should be careful about damning a whole team (not to mention a whole nation) for the actions of Suarez, though. His lawyer, the conspiracy theories, all this - is bad. No question about it. But I think many Uruguayans feel that way too.

No need to apologize no reason for poor spelling these days. I'm not type that wants to throw baby out with the bath water. I'm just appalled at the crazy conspiracy theories by El Pais and his attorney, and the flat out denial by Suarez, his teammate, Lugano, and his manager that he did anything wrong.

Remember that Maxi Pereira got the first red card for act of absolute cowardice by taking a full hack on Joel Campbell with malevolent intent. So one does have raise the question if anyone is checking these guys and what else might happen if these types of behaviors are condoned tacitly or otherwise.

To me FIFA needs to come down hard on Suarez otherwise they will be condoning violent misconduct.

I don't mind hard football plays but there is absolutely no place for biting or committing non football actions.

It's a blight on the game and certain Uruguayans are giving the country a bad name with their behavior.

 

[Feeky Magee]

That big in-depth ESPN article being quoted everywhere is really shoddy on the Evra case. Makes out as if he called him negrito once, when it was negro 8 times, in the context of insulting sentences.

 

[cesc's_mullet]

It's one of those weird insular sports only played in one or two countries and not picked up by the world at large. Like hurling. Or cricket.

I think it would be a really popular sport if it was given time to grow in other countries. It's got a mix of everything and you simply can't be a pansy and play.

Already we have seen Irish imports become huge successes (Gaelic players getting recruited). There is a Canadian former Rugby player who has developed into a quality player (for his position) and the teams are targeting American college athletes now.

We've seen players retire and move to the US to become professional punters for Grid Iron teams too.

 

[antohan]

Remember that Maxi Pereira got the first red card for act of absolute cowardice by taking a full hack on Joel Campbell with malevolent intent. So one does have raise the question if anyone is checking these guys and what else might happen if these types of behaviors are condoned tacitly or otherwise.

It is widely acknowledged Tabarez only brings a certain type of player into his grassroots process that ends up in the NT. There's no room for indiscipline or lack of team spirit. He actually actively avoided Suarez and had him out for two or three years after he got red carded on his debut. By the time the Bakkal incident happened he was already far too important, with a good wc under his belt and Forlan ageing.

He was quite clear in his disapproval of Maxi's actions and Maxi lost his starting spot. No tacit condoning at all there.

 

[Mockney]

I think it would be a really popular sport if it was given time to grow in other countries. It's got a mix of everything and you simply can't be a pansy and play.

Already we have seen Irish imports become huge successes (Gaelic players getting recruited). There is a Canadian former Rugby player who has developed into a quality player (for his position) and the teams are targeting American college athletes now.

We've seen players retire and move to the US to become professional punters for Grid Iron teams too.

It was basically a jibe at Cricket mate, but good on ya.

 

[Oga on top.]

It is widely acknowledged Tabarez only brings a certain type of player into his grassroots process that ends up in the NT. There's no room for indiscipline or lack of team spirit. He actually actively avoided Suarez and had him out for two or three years after he got red carded on his debut. By the time the Bakkal incident happened he was already far too important, with a good wc under his belt and Forlan ageing.

He was quite clear in his disapproval of Maxi's actions and Maxi lost his starting spot. No tacit condoning at all there.

I think he's reluctant to change his ways or try to, because he knows how important he is to the national team. Either that or he's genuinely one of few footballers with mental or to a lesser degree severe anger issues. He was so well behaved for us this whole season as well, why does he self destruct like this ffs.

 

[Mockney]

By "well behaved" you mean, acted like a normal person for nearly a whole year? Surely a season of not biting, racially abusing, or doing something of significant notoriety should be viewed as 0 on the behaviour scale.

 

[Oga on top.]

Yep. For him that's clearly a huge ordeal, so I'll give him props for that.

 

[Mockney]

Pfft, I managed to not kick anyone in the face this year. Where's my props?

 

[anurag]

I don't know if this has been posted before in this thread or not but it really had me in stitches.

 

[Feeky Magee]

I think it would be a really popular sport if it was given time to grow in other countries. It's got a mix of everything and you simply can't be a pansy and play.

Already we have seen Irish imports become huge successes (Gaelic players getting recruited). There is a Canadian former Rugby player who has developed into a quality player (for his position) and the teams are targeting American college athletes now.

We've seen players retire and move to the US to become professional punters for Grid Iron teams too.

Every time I turn on a game it's like 90-12. What's the average winning margin?

 

[antohan]

I think he's reluctant to change his ways or try to, because he knows how important he is to the national team. Either that or he's genuinely one of few footballers with mental or to a lesser degree severe anger issues. He was so well behaved for us this whole season as well, why does he self destruct like this ffs.

I think Tabarez got it spot on when the Bakkal incident happened. He said a big part of his game was his competitiveness and how it gave him an edge. That part of that was being a pain for his defenders, winding them up and making them lose focus, which was absolutely fine and part of the contest. That his problem in that case was going a step too far and that he needed to know his boundaries and he had talked with him about it. He refused to go into the content of the convo but said he was satisfied he could remain in the NT process and would be fine for the Copa America.

Then we won it and he got player of the tourno, after that I doubt Tabarez could have much control, just damage limitation and private reminders with no err teeth.

He has always had that flaw, particularly when injured or out of sorts, he spirals into old habits.

 

[wwwwww]

Suarez lawyer, Uruguay FA board member Alejandro Balbi, on #URU radio:

"We don't have any doubts that this has happened because it's Suarez and secondly because Italy was eliminated,
"There's a lot of pressure from England and Italy. We're polishing off a defence argument."
"There is a possibility that they ban him, because there are precedents, but we're convinced that it was an absolutely
casual play, because if Chiellini can show a scratch on one shoulder, Suarez can show a bruised and almost shut eye."
"You shouldn't forget that we're rivals of many and we can be for the organiser (hosts Brazil) in the future.
"This does not go against what might have happened, but there's no doubt that Suarez is a rock in the shoe for many."
"We're going to use all the arguments possible so that Luis gets out in the best possible way."

all via. https://twitter.com/Masters_JamesD

(Bolding is mine, because that's just hilarious)

Love the bold part.

Any defence? You can just see this coming.


"If the bite marks don't fit then you must acquit"

 

[wwwwww]

My national team (co)manager recons this is no worse than headbutting or aggressively tackling and he should not be punished.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_turpitude

 

[wwwwww]

Courts don't punish people for what they may do next .. a peeper may turn into a rapist but we can not make that assumption and judges will not punish him for the potential.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menacing

 

[gooDevil]

Yes, Chiellini is to blame for yanking his arm away from the man trying to eat it, and hurting the cannibal in question.

 

[Rykker_4united]

It just shocks me that nobody has turned and smashed him in the face yet

 

[Sky1981]

Is not the point. A dangerous tackle is worse, just saying. That doesn't mean I'm suggesting it's okay to make racist chants, bite people or spit on them so I'm not sure why you're implying that's what I mean.

The point is, stop harping that biting = meh because hey... bad tackle is worse

It's vile enough, why can't people just man up and say : yes, that's a bite and it's wrong and it deserved a punishment, specially when it's the third time he's done it, instead of creating a whole new universe where biting is just meh and the CIA,MI6, Mossad etc are planning on the destruction of Uruguay by tarnishing their name on World Cup

There are reasons why people tolerate (or at least accepted that injuries happens on the pitch) but there are also reasons why the FIFA are so quick to try to stamp racism, biting, and all this nonsensical shits that has got nothing to do with football.

And FYI: Suarez did all other, horror dangerous tackle, racism, biting, playacting, and he has never been book for anything other than racism and biting, if any he has got preferential treatment all this time.

 

[Sky1981]

Very silly example. In that case you have made a threat with intent, in the present. You can't suppose someone is going to re-offend or commit a more serious crime in the future, you can only punish them for what has been committed. Since when has any court punished anyone for something that hasn't happened !

Put it this way, if you have a daughter, would you put him in the same room with a 2 times convicted molester? Would you give him the benefit of doubt of him not doing it the 3rd time?

Would you tell the world "it's ok, he hasn't done it the third"

 

[Rafateria]

Put it this way, if you have a daughter, would you put him in the same room with a 2 times convicted molester? Would you give him the benefit of doubt of him not doing it the 3rd time?

Would you tell the world "it's ok, he hasn't done it the third"

That is totally irrelevant, of course I wouldn't put my daughter in there with him. However that is a completely different scenario to actually punishing someone for something they haven't yet done ! How is this so difficult for anyone to understand ! You simply can't punish people based on supposition ! How about a Red Card for a player because he might make a two footed challenge because he's done it in the past ?!

 

[Rafateria]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menacing

I've already covered this in previous posts above .. this is an actual offence occurring in the present not punishment for an act that may or may not occur in the future.

From your link : It often consists of displaying a weapon to a person with the intention of threatening them with bodily harm from the said weapon, or of criminally threatening another, or otherwise putting them in fear of physical harm.

 

[Sky1981]

That is totally irrelevant, of course I wouldn't put my daughter in there with him. However that is a completely different scenario to actually punishing someone for something they haven't yet done ! How is this so difficult for anyone to understand ! You simply can't punish people based on supposition ! How about a Red Card for a player because he might make a two footed challenge because he's done it in the past ?!

dude. he BIT someone THREE TIMES

Unless you think that the footage are not what it shows, he did BIT

And stop this shit victim mentality. First time he bit, he got banned, second time he got banned longer, third time = longer than the 2nd.

There's no discrimination or injustice here.

EDIT: What's so wrong about punishing a man guilty of an offence? And for the love of god don't tell me that he didn't do it or hasn't proven to do it, those footage is live tv seen by millions, and even a 5 years old can tell you that it is a fcking bite.

There are benefits of doubt, but in this case, he is guilty of biting, he's just hasn't properly officially punished for it. Take off your tinted specs and just see things as it is.

We all defended cantona, but never once I say he's being treated unfairly and not being in the wrong side of the law

 

[RDCR07]

Diego Lugano is seriously an ass. He is still denying it the cnut.

http://www.espnfc.us/fifa-world-cup...giorgio-chiellini-pictures-dont-show-anything

Uruguay defender Diego Lugano has again defended Luis Suarez against accusations he bit Italy defender Giorgio Chiellini, claiming sections of the media have "got something against" the striker.

Suarez, 27, appeared to bite the centre-back in the final stages of a game which finished 1-0 to Uruguay, sending Italy out.

Lugano had already heavily criticised Chiellini earlier on Wednesday for the way he reacted to the alleged incident, and he has now attempted to deflect the attention away from Suarez, who has been asked by FIFA to explain his actions.

Asked by BBC Sport during a news conference to explain what happened, Lugano said: "What incident? The pictures don't show anything. They show an approximation. I don't know what incident you're talking about. Are you talking about the Premier League or the national team? Have you got something against Luis?"

When asked to clarify if he meant nothing had happened between Suarez and Chiellini, he added: "No, the pictures don't show anything. They show an approximation but nothing important.

"Everybody knows the British media have an issue with Suarez. It must sell newspapers in England. Otherwise you wouldn't be here. Yesterday, Uruguay played against Italy and Saturday it will play Colombia.

"I don't know what a British journalist is doing talking about Suarez. It must be popular with the British media. I don't see another explanation. But we're happy with yesterday's win.

"You don't look that happy with Uruguay's victory but well, now comes the hardest part which is facing what I believe is the best team so far in the tournament."

Suarez's lawyer, Alejandro Balbi, has also claimed there is a European campaign against his client.

 

[Rafateria]

dude. he BIT someone THREE TIMES

Unless you think that the footage are not what it shows, he did BIT

And stop this shit victim mentality. First time he bit, he got banned, second time he got banned longer, third time = longer than the 2nd.

There's no discrimination or injustice here.

EDIT: What's so wrong about punishing a man guilty of an offence? And for the love of god don't tell me that he didn't do it or hasn't proven to do it, those footage is live tv seen by millions, and even a 5 years old can tell you that it is a fcking bite.

There are benefits of doubt, but in this case, he is guilty of biting, he's just hasn't properly officially punished for it. Take off your tinted specs and just see things as it is.

We all defended cantona, but never once I say he's being treated unfairly and not being in the wrong side of the law

You have obviously not followed the conversation because what was/is under discussion has nothing at all to do with the above (where I totally agree with you) ! Sorry if we've confused you by introducing another subject into this thread, I agree it is OT.

 

[Vanrouge]

Aahhhh, the moral compass point. It's not as if every other post on football forums don't fall into that bracket, is it? Heck, the faux outrage about stuff that goes on in a game from fans usually reaches ludicrous levels. I include this Suarez incident, which is obviously bad, but most are simply basking in the "outrage" of it all. Bit like fans did when Giggs' stuff came out - people love a bit of sanctimonious rage when it comes to opposition players and their naughty behaviour.

So is your outrage over the faux outrage real outrage or faux? I'm confused.

 

[Vanrouge]

I LOLed at the reactions from Uruguay. The coach arguing that this is football, not a moral contest, 'these things happen' from suarez and Lugano calling Chielinni a snitch and a crybaby.

A good reminder to man up.

Right, because "manning up" definitely involves hairpulling, eyegouging, achilles raking, serial biting, and pretending to be hurt so you can escape sanction for all the above. Good. If Suarez and his apologists are your role models for masculinity, it's no wonder you and your Scouse ilk are serial losers. You disgust me. Cowards to a "man."

 

[.Rossi]

Anyone fancy a game of Biteman?

http://bitemangame.com/

 

[Sky1981]

You have obviously not followed the conversation because what was/is under discussion has nothing at all to do with the above (where I totally agree with you) ! Sorry if we've confused you by introducing another subject into this thread, I agree it is OT.

Cheers, sorry, was hard to keep on following the megathreads

Buy you a pint at the world cup babes thread?

 

[Always Up]

^
^ Hilarious and fun!

 

[bloke]

god, i'd wouldn't consider cricket as one of those 'insular' sports, its played in many countries! afl, gridiron, hurling, yes.

 

[Rafateria]

Cheers, sorry, was hard to keep on following the megathreads

Buy you a pint at the world cup babes thread?

You're on

 

[NinjaZombie]

Par for the course with him, kicking a Dawson on the ground, belly punt to Parker, gouging Parkers eye, stamping on people achilles tendons.

Then there is this.

People will mock me for mock outrage or whatever here but I have to say that is one of the most deplorable and despicable thing I've seen in football. I can only remember Ben Tatcher's incident with Pedro Mendes as something equivalent.

The way he was making out to be injured after that. Seething here, to be honest.

 

[cesc's_mullet]

It was basically a jibe at Cricket mate, but good on ya.

 

[nick2004]

Ban him forever!!!

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28010967

Alan Shearer: "Suarez was found guilty at Ajax, he was found guilty at Liverpool and, if he is found guilty here, Fifa should give him as long a ban as they can. Three bites and you are out. They should absolutely hammer him."

Robbie Savage: "He has done it on a world stage and he should never play international football again. He knows what he has done.

"After the England game, he was celebrating so much that he was in tears. This time, he was really subdued at the final whistle, as if he had realised what had just happened."

Chris Waddle: "Suarez has to get severely punished. There will be people who will defend him, but I don't know why. I'd make him wear a gumshield."

Danny Mills: "It has to be the longest ban in football ever. A worldwide ban, not just an international ban.

"It is the third time it has happened and it is a clear bite this time, in a tournament of this magnitude, the most watched tournament in the world. They have got to throw him in jail and lock him up forever."

Are Liverpool fans pissing themselves yet????

 

[coolredwine]

Diego Lugano is seriously an ass. He is still denying it the cnut.

http://www.espnfc.us/fifa-world-cup...giorgio-chiellini-pictures-dont-show-anything

It will be interesting to see how they justify Luis' actions and the claim that the whole of Europe is out on a witch hunt against Luis.

 

[Bestie07]

Ban him forever!!!

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28010967



Are Liverpool fans pissing themselves yet????

Some of those comments are hilarious. You can sort of understand why Uruguay feel they are being targeted by the British media. He should get a very long ban, possibly a few months, a year or more, but the longest ban in football ever

 

[louvega]

Whoa