Backlash after WC rape jokes flood Twitter

Dr. Dwayne

Self proclaimed tagline king.
Joined
May 9, 2006
Messages
97,906
Location
Nearer my Cas, to thee
The only people who seriously think feminism is anti-male are either misogynists or a bit dim. Thinking feminism is about people who want to castrate males is like thinking Islam is about people wanting to fly planes in to buildings. In either case, they aren't going to be turned in to useful promoters of gender equality by a new term for it.
Gender
Equality
Supporters
United
Society

We could call ourselves GESUS Freaks. It'd be grand.
 

Momochiru

Full Member
Joined
May 27, 2012
Messages
1,989
Location
マンチェスター·ユナイテッド
The only people who seriously think feminism is anti-male are either misogynists or a bit dim. Thinking feminism is about people who want to castrate males is like thinking Islam is about people wanting to fly planes in to buildings. In either case, they aren't going to be turned in to useful promoters of gender equality by a new term for it.
Still there are crazies who call themselves 'feminists'. Rebranding the movement from 'feminism' to 'equalitism' is only fair, if at the current point of time that name represents the goals of the movement better.
 

SteveJ

all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian
Scout
Joined
Oct 22, 2010
Messages
62,851
Well perhaps 'Men' should be rebranded, just so we don't associate ourselves with those murdering, war-mongering, raping crazies.
 

SteveJ

all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian
Scout
Joined
Oct 22, 2010
Messages
62,851
FitTucker said:
'Criminals', 'Psychopaths', etc. are perfectly good words.
Um...why are you telling me that?

FitTucker said:
And by the way murdering, war-mongering and raping is not confined only to men.
Cheers for the info.
 

Mad Winger

New Member
Joined
Apr 14, 2011
Messages
4,138
Location
#ShinjiIsFree
What the hell is rape hysteria?
Tumblr feminists(etc) want us to believe that we live in a "rape culture", where pretty much any man is a potential rapist. Rape gets too much attention, in my opinion. Are we just gonna ignore the fact that much more men get killed, robbed, or beaten up? Or that much more men struggle with depression, alcoholism and drug problems? Or that much more men than women commit suicide?

Rape is arguably the only negative statistic(that I can think of) that women top. Rape is obviously horrible, but we need to take a chillpill and look at all problems in society. Not just rape.
 

Arruda

Love is in the air, everywhere I look around
Joined
Apr 8, 2009
Messages
12,584
Location
Azores
Supports
Porto
US rape victim, 16, who spoke out after photos of her attack were spread online, is trolled by sick internet users copying the pose she collapsed in:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...internet-users-copying-pose-collapsed-in.html
Can't these cnuts be tracked and prosecuted, at least the ones in US soil? Damage compensation and a really long internet ban would suit them, and that's to say the least. If they do it to hackers why not these bastards? It's more vile and potentially more dangerous.
 

Eboue

nasty little twerp with crazy bitter-man opinions
Joined
Jun 6, 2011
Messages
61,402
Location
I'm typing this with my Glock 19 two feet from me
Can't these cnuts be tracked and prosecuted, at least the ones in US soil? Damage compensation and a really long internet ban would suit them, and that's to say the least. If they do it to hackers why not these bastards? It's more vile and potentially more dangerous.
What crime have they committed?
 

Arruda

Love is in the air, everywhere I look around
Joined
Apr 8, 2009
Messages
12,584
Location
Azores
Supports
Porto
What crime have they committed?
Bullying? I don't know. Shouldn't be hard to find something, let alone in the US. She was damaged by these pricks, when someone is damaged there is usually some law that applies and provides compensation. If there isn't yet, there will be one soon, because these things will continue to happen.
 

Momochiru

Full Member
Joined
May 27, 2012
Messages
1,989
Location
マンチェスター·ユナイテッド
Bullying? I don't know. Shouldn't be hard to find something, let alone in the US. She was damaged by these pricks, when someone is damaged there is usually some law that applies and provides compensation. If there isn't yet, there will be one soon, because these things will continue to happen.
Definitely the person who leaked the photos could be prosecuted. Don't know about the rest of the idiots.
 

SalfordRed18

Netflix and avocado, no chill
Joined
Sep 24, 2012
Messages
14,142
Location
Salford
Supports
Ashwood City FC
Bullying? I don't know. Shouldn't be hard to find something, let alone in the US.
I ask you, genuine question, when those birds last halloween dressed up as the twin towers blowing up for halloween, did you want them prosecuted?
 

Arruda

Love is in the air, everywhere I look around
Joined
Apr 8, 2009
Messages
12,584
Location
Azores
Supports
Porto
According to U.S. Legal Definitions, Cyber-bullying could be limited to posting rumors or gossips about a person in the internet bringing about hatred in other’s minds; or it may go to the extent of personally identifying victims and publishing materials severely defaming and humiliating them.
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
 

Eboue

nasty little twerp with crazy bitter-man opinions
Joined
Jun 6, 2011
Messages
61,402
Location
I'm typing this with my Glock 19 two feet from me
Tumblr feminists(etc) want us to believe that we live in a "rape culture", where pretty much any man is a potential rapist. Rape gets too much attention, in my opinion. Are we just gonna ignore the fact that much more men get killed, robbed, or beaten up? Or that much more men struggle with depression, alcoholism and drug problems? Or that much more men than women commit suicide?

Rape is arguably the only negative statistic(that I can think of) that women top. Rape is obviously horrible, but we need to take a chillpill and look at all problems in society. Not just rape.
Oh Jesus.

A few points:

Males commit 90% of murders and make up 75% of victims.

For some other statistics, how about

Employment discrimination
Domestic abuse
Sexual harassment
Wage gap

Off the top of my head


If a man is mugged, is this first question "what were you wearing" or "what were you doing alone at that time of night"?

We don't need to "take a chill pill". We need to seriously examine why such a problem exists and is so widespread, and furthermore, why so many people refuse to take it seriously. The point about "taking a look at all problems in society" is so blatantly ridiculous I hope I don't have to address that.


Bullying? I don't know. Shouldn't be hard to find something, let alone in the US. She was damaged by these pricks, when someone is damaged there is usually some law that applies and provides compensation. If there isn't yet, there will be one soon, because these things will continue to happen.
There won't be. It's free speech.
 

SalfordRed18

Netflix and avocado, no chill
Joined
Sep 24, 2012
Messages
14,142
Location
Salford
Supports
Ashwood City FC
Tumblr feminists(etc) want us to believe that we live in a "rape culture", where pretty much any man is a potential rapist. Rape gets too much attention, in my opinion. Are we just gonna ignore the fact that much more men get killed, robbed, or beaten up? Or that much more men struggle with depression, alcoholism and drug problems? Or that much more men than women commit suicide?

Rape is arguably the only negative statistic(that I can think of) that women top. Rape is obviously horrible, but we need to take a chillpill and look at all problems in society. Not just rape.
This is true. If you made a joke telling someone to top them self or something along those lines, i very much doubt it would spawn a 17 page thread on the topic. But maybe i wrong.
 

Eboue

nasty little twerp with crazy bitter-man opinions
Joined
Jun 6, 2011
Messages
61,402
Location
I'm typing this with my Glock 19 two feet from me
This is true. If you made a joke telling someone to top them self or something along those lines, i very much doubt it would spawn a 17 page thread on the topic. But maybe i wrong.
That's because everyone would agree that it was not kosher. With rape, people (almost invariably men) love to insist that they should be able to joke about it and constantly question why it should be taken so seriously.
 

SalfordRed18

Netflix and avocado, no chill
Joined
Sep 24, 2012
Messages
14,142
Location
Salford
Supports
Ashwood City FC
Oh Jesus.

A few points:

Males commit 90% of murders and make up 75% of victims.

For some other statistics, how about

Employment discrimination
Domestic abuse
Sexual harassment
Wage gap

Off the top of my head


If a man is mugged, is this first question "what were you wearing" or "what were you doing alone at that time of night"?

We don't need to "take a chill pill". We need to seriously examine why such a problem exists and is so widespread, and furthermore, why so many people refuse to take it seriously. The point about "taking a look at all problems in society" is so blatantly ridiculous I hope I don't have to address that.




There won't be. It's free speech.
Where are you getting your stats from?

And those arent the first questions asked of a female if they were mugged either, tbh. But you keep believing that.
 

Arruda

Love is in the air, everywhere I look around
Joined
Apr 8, 2009
Messages
12,584
Location
Azores
Supports
Porto
There won't be. It's free speech.
So, defamation/libel aside there are absolutely no limits to "free speech" in the US? Honest question.

Wouldn't you say the definition of cyber-bullying that I posted above fits like a glove on what happened? Or the fact that these people aren't directly connected to the victim and never addressed her directly would prevent it from applying?
 

SalfordRed18

Netflix and avocado, no chill
Joined
Sep 24, 2012
Messages
14,142
Location
Salford
Supports
Ashwood City FC
That's because everyone would agree that it was not kosher. With rape, people (almost invariably men) love to insist that they should be able to joke about it and constantly question why it should be taken so seriously.
I dont see men not taking rape seriously, in this thread at least. A few have made it quite clear, theres a difference between rape the word, and rape the action, obviously.
 

Big-Red

Not actually very big
Staff
Joined
Apr 6, 2009
Messages
25,334
Location
Dublin
Supports
this year is my year on SM
That's because everyone would agree that it was not kosher. With rape, people (almost invariably men) love to insist that they should be able to joke about it and constantly question why it should be taken so seriously.
To bring this back to football, is saying "Brazil got raped" a joke?
 

Arruda

Love is in the air, everywhere I look around
Joined
Apr 8, 2009
Messages
12,584
Location
Azores
Supports
Porto
Tumblr feminists(etc) want us to believe that we live in a "rape culture", where pretty much any man is a potential rapist. Rape gets too much attention, in my opinion. Are we just gonna ignore the fact that much more men get killed, robbed, or beaten up? Or that much more men struggle with depression, alcoholism and drug problems? Or that much more men than women commit suicide?

Rape is arguably the only negative statistic(that I can think of) that women top. Rape is obviously horrible, but we need to take a chillpill and look at all problems in society. Not just rape.
Why are you making stuff up?

And men getting killed more often, robbed or beaten up is a consequence of their behavior. I'm sure that if you're a gigantic pussy that never walks alone in the street at night and runs away from any situation where confrontation is remotely possibly you'd be as "safe" as the average woman.
 

SalfordRed18

Netflix and avocado, no chill
Joined
Sep 24, 2012
Messages
14,142
Location
Salford
Supports
Ashwood City FC
No, those are the questions asked to rape victims.
Same point if im honest.

Those wont be the first questions asked, but they will be asked because they need to be. They'd be asked of a male rape victim to, but theyre always forgotten about.
 

Mad Winger

New Member
Joined
Apr 14, 2011
Messages
4,138
Location
#ShinjiIsFree
Employment discrimination
Domestic abuse
Sexual harassment
Wage gap
- Employment discrimination? I have never seen any statistics that can prove this, but then again I live in one of the most egalitarian countries in the world.
- Domestic abuse is fairly even, 60/40 in "favor" of women. The problem with domestic abuse, is that it focuses too much on physical violence. Psychological and verbal terror is equally bad imo(if not worse).
- Wage gap? I could go on for hours about why this is complete bullshit, but I don't have the time now.

Fair enough, more women gets sexually harrassed than men.

__________________

Call me crazy, but it would be nice to see a few advertisements or posters trying to help men as well. Will there ever be a commercial where a man looks into the camera and says: "Listen, just because I'm a man it doesn't mean that I'm strong enough to handle being robbed or beaten up. The scars you leave aren't always visible. I'm just a human being. Would you beat up a child or a woman? No? Then would would you beat up me?"

You see where I'm going here? Individual problems are more important than gender problems. The moment we start to focus on gender rather than individual, we quickly notice that there's two sides with two different stories.
 

Eboue

nasty little twerp with crazy bitter-man opinions
Joined
Jun 6, 2011
Messages
61,402
Location
I'm typing this with my Glock 19 two feet from me
So, defamation/libel aside there are absolutely no limits to "free speech" in the US? Honest question.

Wouldn't you say the definition of cyber-bullying that I posted above fits like a glove on what happened? Or the fact that these people aren't directly connected to the victim and never addressed her directly would prevent it from applying?
Well threats and immediate incitement of violence too. Like, saying "let's secede from the union and get a bunch of weapons in case they try to stop us" is different from standing on main street and getting a mob to beat up the mayor.


For cyber bullying,
https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/free-speech-and-cyber-bullying
 

Cheesy

Bread with dipping sauce
Scout
Joined
Oct 16, 2011
Messages
36,181
As much as this is a serious thread on a serious subject, imagining Mad Winger going up to a female who's suffered this, which is horrible, and telling them to "take a chillpill" is almost funny in a dark sort of way. Maybe I read it wrong, but that's probably the worst thing that could be said on the subject.
 

Eboue

nasty little twerp with crazy bitter-man opinions
Joined
Jun 6, 2011
Messages
61,402
Location
I'm typing this with my Glock 19 two feet from me
Same point if im honest.

Those wont be the first questions asked, but they will be asked because they need to be. They'd be asked of a male rape victim to, but theyre always forgotten about.
No, they don't need to be. How on earth does "what were you wearing" need to be asked of a rape victim?
 

Eboue

nasty little twerp with crazy bitter-man opinions
Joined
Jun 6, 2011
Messages
61,402
Location
I'm typing this with my Glock 19 two feet from me
- Employment discrimination? I have never seen any statistics that can prove this, but then again I live in one of the most egalitarian countries in the world.
- Domestic abuse is fairly even, 60/40 in "favor" of women. The problem with domestic abuse, is that it focuses too much on physical violence. Psychological and verbal terror is equally bad imo(if not worse).
- Wage gap? I could go on for hours about why this is complete bullshit, but I don't have the time now.

Fair enough, more women gets sexually harrassed than men.

__________________

Call me crazy, but it would be nice to see a few advertisements or posters trying to help men as well. Will there ever be a commercial where a man looks into the camera and says: "Listen, just because I'm a man it doesn't mean that I'm strong enough to handle being robbed or beaten up. The scars you leave aren't always visible. I'm just a human being. Would you beat up a child or a woman? No? Then would would you beat up me?"

You see where I'm going here? Individual problems are more important than gender problems. The moment we start to focus on gender rather than individual, we quickly notice that there's two sides with two different stories.
People shouldn't beat each other up. And you should try to imagine living in a world and not having all the privileges you take for granted.
 

Arruda

Love is in the air, everywhere I look around
Joined
Apr 8, 2009
Messages
12,584
Location
Azores
Supports
Porto
Thats a fact. Men are more prone to depression and have a far greater chance of committing suicide. He didnt make anything up there.
It's not. It's bullshit. Women are twice more likely to suffer from depression than men. Men indeed kill themselves more, because of their nature. But he addressed that specifically as well in the following sentence. So the one I bolded is indeed made up bullshit to strengthen a shit agenda.
 

SalfordRed18

Netflix and avocado, no chill
Joined
Sep 24, 2012
Messages
14,142
Location
Salford
Supports
Ashwood City FC
No, they don't need to be. How on earth does "what were you wearing" need to be asked of a rape victim?
Id imagine knowing what they were wearing would aide in their investigation. "Drawing a picture" as it were.

Simply asking what you were wearing does NOT equal telling a rape victim, the clothes your wearing was asking for it. But thats a different thread entirely.
 

SalfordRed18

Netflix and avocado, no chill
Joined
Sep 24, 2012
Messages
14,142
Location
Salford
Supports
Ashwood City FC
It's not. It's bullshit. Women are twice more likely to suffer from depression than men. Men indeed kill themselves more, because of their nature. But he addressed that specifically as well in the following sentence. So the one I bolded is indeed made up bullshit to strengthen a shit agenda.
We could quote journal articles now if you want, but anything i find, youll find an article telling you the opposite, vice versa. No point getting into that.