Louis Van Gaal - Press Conference vs Burnley - Feb 10th

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He already done some of his math when abandoned 3-5-2 at least for a while. Not a rocket science but he has ability to listen.

Somewhere deep inside, there is still hope for the 'genuine moron'. :lol:
:lol: the funny thing is this is not the only time or club where he has been seen to be a moron though
 

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No, he said he did in the press conference. Watch it.
Can you link me to video please? No way I can go through all pages. Last I checked few hours ago, this was on page 3. A WW thread moves slower!
 

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You think the media and fans are going to talk about this less because of what Van Gaal said? Ultimately it doesn't matter, as long as he gets results on the pitch and I'm sure Van Gaal knows perfectly what he's stepping into making those types of comments and decided to do it regardless, but it has made it more of a talking point and forged a link between the words.

Anyone remember AVB's press conference argument with Neil Ashton and Martin Samuel. The press just doubled up their critcism and a lot of what they were giving him before was completely unfair and inaccurate.
Possibly not, but if you've been watching SSN today, it's all about Van Gaal's response to Alladyce, which has had a lot of attention. I mean, we're talking about it now. Had he not said anything, people could possibly believe the rubbish the papers have said. People can not argue with stats.

Van Gaal has not argued or been wound up in any way, shape or form. He's just sticking up for the team he manages. Nothing wrong with that.

I guess managers can't win. Last season people abused Moyes because apparently he lacked a sort of passion in his press conferences. This season, Van Gaal seems to be the exact opposite and people are saying he's weird, mad, etc.
 

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Overreaction at both ends. Neither is it the best way to deal with a tongue in cheek remark, nor does it deserve this shambolic meltdown. If he did the same during our best run of the season, (which was also not playing the best football), the reaction would have a lot more different. Just go out and win now.
 

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Possibly not, but if you've been watching SSN today, it's all about Van Gaal's response to Alladyce, which has had a lot of attention. I mean, we're talking about it now. Had he not said anything, people could possibly believe the rubbish the papers have said. People can not argue with stats.

Van Gaal has not argued or been wound up in any way, shape or form. He's just sticking up for the team he manages. Nothing wrong with that.

I guess managers can't win. Last season people abused Moyes because apparently he lacked a sort of passion in his press conferences. This season, Van Gaal seems to be the exact opposite and people are saying he's weird, mad, etc.
TBH he is though, but I don't mind that.
What I do mind is the shite football he is making us play
 

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:lol: the funny thing is this is not the only time or club where he has been seen to be a moron though
...and everytime it happened, the moron still managed to win trophies everywhere he was.

One hell of a lucky moron.
 

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...and everytime it happened, the moron still managed to win trophies everywhere he was.

One hell of a lucky moron.
Yeah I don't doubt his credentials tbh, I also think Mou is also a moron at times too, I guess there is a lot of method in the madness though.
Takes a very big ego to manage many top clubs at the top level
 

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Which would be fine if it wasn't for the fact Van Gaal bought Fellaini on and ordered his team to hoof the ball to him for the last 20 minutes. Is he pretending he didn't do this now? Or trying to pretend Allardyce is a liar? Anyone who watched the game knows that we did this, regardless of how many bits of paper Van Gaal wants to carry around with him.

It is the behaviour of a moron.
Having a shocker lad.
 

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Possibly not, but if you've been watching SSN today, it's all about Van Gaal's response to Alladyce, which has had a lot of attention. I mean, we're talking about it now. Had he not said anything, people could possibly believe the rubbish the papers have said. People can not argue with stats.

Van Gaal has not argued or been wound up in any way, shape or form. He's just sticking up for the team he manages. Nothing wrong with that.

I guess managers can't win. Last season people abused Moyes because apparently he lacked a sort of passion in his press conferences. This season, Van Gaal seems to be the exact opposite and people are saying he's weird, mad, etc.
Moyes: "genuine, humble guy" > "indecisive clown"
Van Gaal: "winner who won't be afraid to stand up for himself" > "moron having a meltdown"

It's just the way people are. The reality is SAF could have said/done pretty much anything we've seen from either Moyes or Van Gaal and nobody would have cared in the slightest.
 

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Nice video. Cool as f**k. :lol: at the jokers likening it with Rafa rant. Clearly you haven't seen actual LvG rant at previous clubs then, which is difficult to believe.
 

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Moyes: "genuine, humble guy" > "indecisive clown"
Van Gaal: "winner who won't be afraid to stand up for himself" > "moron having a meltdown"

It's just the way people are. The reality is SAF could have said/done pretty much anything we've seen from either Moyes or Van Gaal and nobody would have cared in the slightest.
I'm pretty sure people also thought Fergie said things which were over the top too, thought it was funny, and hes always been labled as being a little crazy. Like when he said Williams could have killed RVP, its just managers at the end of the day. I tend to like the ones who act like morons more than the ones who act indecisive. The ones who act like morons at times have very strong belief in what they are doing and where they are going, even if others can't see it
 

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...and everytime it happened, the moron still managed to win trophies everywhere he was.

One hell of a lucky moron.
I read somewhere he hasn't achieved much success over the latter part of his management.
 

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Possibly not, but if you've been watching SSN today, it's all about Van Gaal's response to Alladyce, which has had a lot of attention. I mean, we're talking about it now. Had he not said anything, people could possibly believe the rubbish the papers have said. People can not argue with stats.

Van Gaal has not argued or been wound up in any way, shape or form. He's just sticking up for the team he manages. Nothing wrong with that.

I guess managers can't win. Last season people abused Moyes because apparently he lacked a sort of passion in his press conferences. This season, Van Gaal seems to be the exact opposite and people are saying he's weird, mad, etc.
People would've lapped this stuff up back in the summer. Back when people suddenly thought he was the best thing since sliced bread. He's out of favour now though, so people can't wait to criticize him.
 

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Yeah I don't doubt his credentials tbh, I also think Mou is also a moron at times too, I guess there is a lot of method on the madness though.
Takes a very big ego to manage many top clubs at the top level
Indeed. Maureen is a bit of different type of dumbfeckery.

LVG likes to think of himself as a teacher in elementary school, full of little morons, while Mourinho still play Jorge, the unsatisfied husband in the Venezuelan soap opera. They both love each other but the show got separated and split in two with too many egos in one place.

One big club is definitely not enough for them.
 

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Can someone tell me on average how long he has lasted at his previous clubs?
The two longest have been in his native Holland; 6 years in his first stint at Ajax and 4 years with small club AZ.

His time with Barca and Bayern ended with unceremonious exits.

His first stint at Barca ended after 2.5 years because of conflicts with players and the press. He won two titles though.
The second stint ended in 8 months.
He lasted 1 and a half years at Bayern before getting the sack. Won the title in the first year.

The difference here is that unlike those two, this is not a one or two team league. Here the challenge is much bigger from the other teams.
 

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I read somewhere he hasn't achieved much success over the latter part of his management.
He's not been in club management for a while. Was a success pretty much everywhere before that.
 

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LVG likes to think of himself as a teacher in elementary school, full of little morons, while Mourinho still play Jorge, the unsatisfied husband in the Venezuelan soap opera.
:lol:
 

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I read somewhere he hasn't achieved much success over the latter part of his management.
Of course, he had his moments of colossal fail, too. He disappointed few times in Barcelona, Netherlands in WC 2002 elimination stage, Bayern... Most of the time it was problems with communication and it wasn't even about linguistic problems.
 

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Newbie called @Jeremiah asked me to post this for him here :)

Hi. I'm just a newbie but i've been reading today's press conference thread and seen how people are attacking LVG for his defence of his tactics, sadly i'm not in the mains or else i would point this out myself. Could you help me put this point across though? To the people chastising him for being "low" enough to be wound up by Big Sam, they seem to be conveniently forgetting all other managerial spats our great Fergie had as well, infamously the last one he had with Pardew where he called Newcastle a "wee club from the north east".I'll post a link to the caf thread about this issue and you can compare and contrast the reactions to that with the reactions to Van Gaal currently.

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/ferguson-on-pardew-and-newcastle.364104/


Why is it low for Van Gaal to defend himself against Allardyce, not even in a way that insults west ham or Big Sam himself but it's seemingly okay for Fergie to defend his himself against Pardew in a rather disrespectful way? Can we as united fans not give the same leeway to whoever is in charge? I'd appreciate if you helped me put this point across, Thank you and have a nice day.
 

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Christ :annoyed:

Would have been so much classier to just laugh it off, maybe sarcastically suggest we'll be after Andy Carroll in the summer or that he's always keen to hear Big Sam's views on tactics.

This just draws so much attention to it. Also wondering what our players thought if this, I still back van Gaal to 'do the job' but he's spent most of this season calling it as it is when it comes to our players' under-performing and general stupidity at times. It's easy to imagine some of them laughing their tits off at the boss going a bit Rafa
 

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That's van Gaal for you. Awkward, a bit mental and a bit thick.
...and football was never about the mechanics of Austrian economy.

Sometimes you need flash the light of stupidity to be acknowledged as a genius on this wild and still uncharted territory. The trophies still are worth more than anything... yes, also in beloved Manchester United.
 

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Only thing embarrassing about that press conference was the POs reaction at the end.
 

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Possibly not, but if you've been watching SSN today, it's all about Van Gaal's response to Alladyce, which has had a lot of attention. I mean, we're talking about it now. Had he not said anything, people could possibly believe the rubbish the papers have said. People can not argue with stats.

Van Gaal has not argued or been wound up in any way, shape or form. He's just sticking up for the team he manages. Nothing wrong with that.

I guess managers can't win. Last season people abused Moyes because apparently he lacked a sort of passion in his press conferences. This season, Van Gaal seems to be the exact opposite and people are saying he's weird, mad, etc.
His behaviour is bizarre. Feeling the need to respond to this and hand out statistics to the press is not the behaviour if a man who is confident in what he's doing.

It's almost Benitez-esque. If Rodgers did this fans on here would be pissing themselves. If Moyes did it the knives would be straight out.

He can trot out all the stats he wants - he isn't going to convince people who watch football with any regularity that what we're seeing in an attacking sense is anything other than poor.

And as far as the long ball stuff goes that's exactly what he did - Fellaini on and the ball pumped towards him, just like he did at the World Cup with Leroy Fer on a couple of occasions. Why doesn't he just admit that's what he did, or even better not rise to a jibe from a bloke who loves long ball and maintain a dignified silence in the matter.
 

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All these stats are so dumb. Allardyce was referring to the last 20 minutes, when United blatantly bought Fellaini on so they could hoof the ball to him. There's no point denying it because anyone with eyes could see it happen.

Not only that but Allardyce was very clearly half joking when he said it...and in anycase if you don't like being accused of it, don't do it.

We are managed by a genuine moron.
On the money :lol: