http://tidal.com/
I don't know what this is about but the website has a timer and there's famous people and it's trending and I'm excited.
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http://tidal.com/
I don't know what this is about but the website has a timer and there's famous people and it's trending and I'm excited.
It's a music streaming service, it says it on the website you linked.
It's Jay-Z's new venture. Trying to take on Spotify.
That doesn't explain the timer though. I'm mostly interested in the timer.
Isn't that just when it launches?
I have a friend who works for them, so I'll probably have to check it out at some point.
I have a friend who works for them, so I'll probably have to check it out at some point.
It's a countdown to 1 hour and 36 minutes after you made this thread.
Both the things you were excited about are really obvious 
It was a live press conference. Jay, Alisha Keys, Madonna, Kanye West, Beyonce, Rihanna, DeadMau5, Tim McGraw, Daft Punk, Usher and a few others were on hand to lend support. This streaming service will probably make Jay-Z a billionaire.
I don't get streaming.
I doubt this will take off. Price of $20 won't help. The whole press conference and build to it was weird. Getting all these acts to stand in a line on stage and then getting them to sign this document live on camera.
Me either. Sounds like a gimmick.
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All this high quality audio schtick too, 90% of people won't even realise because they don't have the equipment to notice.
Jay-Z will probably become a billionaire off of this but eh.
I assume that eventually there'll be less stuff on Spotify and some things exclusive to this. I gather a lot of artists aren't happy with spotify but it's hard for me to see this being a good thing for consumers.
Hope it fails
It's an awful thing for consumers. At least presently Google Play and Spotify have common licensing. TIDAL is gonna turn this into a game console issue of exclusivity.
It's pretty much nonsense. Extreme quality on Spotify is pretty much on point, and you don't need to shell out an extra 10 quid for it.
Same.
I guess its kind of good for the artistes that they can finally get more money for their projects and songs.
This is the worst video of all time. They are all such self absorbed assholes.
Will I still get "lossless high fidelity sound quality" through my cheap-ass Sony headphones?
Pack of twats.
Pack of twats.
Why?
It also has a regular 9.99 subscription
This. Spotify is a ripoff to indie artists. They don't pay jack and you have to be streaming by the millions to see real money. I fux with it though. I like options. With the backing of major fellow artists I can't see Jigga losing with this.
I'm really not sure how much of an improvement FLACs are over iTunes songs. Sounds like Pono Player hogwash all over again.
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No doubt Apple or Google will buy it for 23453454 trillion dollars next year, and re brand it, and sell it back to idiots, who were sold on the idea in the first place. This seems to be the new business model. Rather like Beats by dre, which were mediocre, and vitamin water, that was bottled water containing hardly any vitamins.
Not sure how but Beats managed to capture something like 60 percent of the US headphones market. That's the power of branding alone. Or there are just way too many bassheads out there.
Their lack of self awareness is astonishing.
This article is on the money.
Only a few minutes ago, the entire music industry stood on a stage in a collective display of how rich and out of touch they are. They think you are willing to pay up to double the price of other streaming music services to pay for their streaming music service, because they are crazy.
Imagine this: canceling your Spotify subscription, and paying $20 for a Tidal subscription instead. It's more expensive because it's "higher quality" and "artist-owned," which is important because Usher, Daft Punk, and Madonna have been living in wretched penury for far too long, and it's time for people to give back. The modern-day Our Gang (which counted among its members not only the aforementioned supernovas, but also Rihanna, Nicki Minaj, Kanye West, Chris Martin, and Jack White) held a "keynote" to promote Tidal, the already extant European streaming company Jay Z recently purchased for $56 million because he's bored.
Jay Z and Beyonce (also present, beaming) dug up an old email thread (SUBJ: SURPRISE BRUNCH PARTY SATURDAY!), hit reply-all, and look at how many of their family friends turned out to stand on stage, visibly uncomfortable, and listen to Alicia Keys give an incoherent speech. At the conclusion of Keys' statement, which merged the rarely combined traits of being about an app and quoting Nietzsche, the artists all signed some sort of "declaration" one by one. I don't know what the document said—it was probably just a blank piece of paper, or perhaps an original copy of the Declaration of Independence that Deadmau5 received as a White Elephant gift.
When it came time for Madonna to sign, she put her whole leg up on the table, as if to say to the world World, I'm MADONNA and yes I am not too old to move my leg this way.
No one is going to use Tidal. These dummies!
In case you had any lingering sympathy for the struggling mega-famous recording artist, here's a video they made to make you hate them:
"We're going to change the course of history," Jay Z says on camera. Then he and his friends raise a champagne toast to the glorious future.
Exactly. These businesses stand on well pitched ideas and iconography.
Dude it's about artists coming together and making a stand and stuff.
The problem with the press conference is there wasn't exactly anyone on stage who is "hard done by" in comparison to the rest of society. I doubt many people have sympathy cos Jay Z, Madonna and Kanye West are struggling....especially not to pay more than Spotify for the exact same service. Unfortunately for celebrities they don't really garner much pity off regular people when they complain about not getting all their money they feel they're entitled, rightly or wrongly.
The video linked is hard to watch, they all come across as out of touch idiots.
Wtf is that haircut, Jack White?
Yeh, that video is cringeworthy in the extreme. However, I do know someone who was directly affected by the fact that Spotify really, really rip off their artists when it comes to royalty payments. They basically save up all the income and pay it out to the big record labels (so even the major artists don't see it directly, because their catalogues are owned by the labels). If this puts more money in the pockets of the artists themselves and not some sleazeball leach of an executive who has never created anything in his life, then good.
"It's about bringing humanity back to being an artist. Not technology. Art. "
Bear in mind that video's been edited down from hours of footage (by some insanely expensive production company, no doubt). If the utter drivel spouted by Madonna made the final edit, can you imagine the amount of cock being talked that didn't?
Bear in mind that video's been edited down from hours of footage (by some insanely expensive production company, no doubt). If the utter drivel spouted by Madonna made the final edit, can you imagine the amount of cock being talked that didn't?
Can we expect now $1000 headphones that will work the best with this stuff? No doubt people would buy it.
There'a clearly some link between so rich that everyone green lights every idea you have and your brain turning into soup.
Speaking of which here's Will I AM(And his logos).
"This is the beginning of the new world", "Change the course of history", "The final frontier", "The last stand", "Every great movement"....What the feck are they talking about? That video is on another level of cringe. The people who lap this shite up...
Tidal will be offering a service which is essentially the exact same service for consumers as spotify, except it can cost upto double as much for quality the majority won't appreciate or even care about. It surely does not have the library of Spotify so basically the only advatange is from an artists perspective - yet the artists showcased, or "icons" as they put it are basically the most known in their genres and are targetting millions of listeners, not thousands. I wonder how that will translate for indie acts who don't have anywhere near that reach, maybe it still works out much better for them than say Spotify though. You might also see more exclusives being brought out on Tidal so people could end up having multiple subscriptions to different streaming services and now you're suddenly paying more per year for music than you ever did before. Ultimately this and other rival services if made will push people further to piracy if they can't get everything from one place.
Tidal will be offering a service which is essentially the exact same service for consumers as spotify, except it can cost upto double as much for quality the majority won't appreciate or even care about. It surely does not have the library of Spotify so basically the only advatange is from an artists perspective - yet the artists showcased, or "icons" as they put it are basically the most known in their genres and are targetting millions of listeners, not thousands. I wonder how that will translate for indie acts who don't have anywhere near that reach, maybe it still works out much better for them than say Spotify though. You might also see more exclusives being brought out on Tidal so people could end up having multiple subscriptions to different streaming services and now you're suddenly paying more per year for music than you ever did before. Ultimately this and other rival services if made will push people further to piracy if they can't get everything from one place.
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Consumers always complain at first, its not a new occurrence... i believe the first phase of the plan is complete - to get people talking, the overall plan is for artistes to be able to control their music and get paid in the process, Jay Z didn't just summon Hip Hop artistes, he summoned artistes from different genres - the likes of coldplay,Deadmau5,Taylor Swift,Calvin Harris and Madonna etc all have huge fan bases, infact Taylor Swift (who just recently pulled her music from Spotify) has an army of "swifties" waiting to follow her to her destination (TIDAL) - so its easy to see why Jay Z is trying to use the stars to sell the product, he has Nicki Minaj,Kanye West,Beyonce,Rihanna and they all have stakes in the company taking it from a sponsorship to an investment, if the company fails they all fail.
I agree with your comments on regular people not being sympathetic towards the plights of the multi millionaires otherwise known as musicians, regular people are also easily brainwashed, i mean Beats headphones came out of nowhere, next thing you know all the celebs are rocking them and fans starting buying them like they were better headphones than Bose, they control 27% of the headphone market and 57% of the premium headphone market which is extraordinary for a company that was established in 2006. Apple is also trying to rival spotify with their newly acquired beats streaming service which is going to make the market very competitive and as history has shown us in the past,the team with the stars usually wins, why would i pay $9.99 to spotify when they probably won't have the new Kanye West or Coldplay album and i can get those on TIDAL for the same price ?
Will the company succeed? only time will tell, although i highly doubt that a $56million investment would go down the drain just like that with no contingency in place or anything... but stranger things have happened so...
Any fan who thinks that an artiste shouldn't be entitled to royalties for his/her music because he/she is already rich is a bitter person to be very honest.
I agree with Hectic. If streaming services get any more fragmented it will increase, rather than reduce, piracy. Paying a monthly fee to listen to music is annoying enough. If you're going to have to pay two or more monthly fees to be able to listen to all the artists you want to listen to then people just won't bother.
I also think they need to cut the fees massively. 10 or 20 quid/month is a lot of money. I don't think I spent that much back when I had no choice but to buy CDs.
Seems crazy to expect consumers to continue to pay that much money now that so many artists are giving away their music for free (and that's even if you ignore the elephant in the room - filesharing)
I also think they need to cut the fees massively. 10 or 20 quid/month is a lot of money. I don't think I spent that much back when I had no choice but to buy CDs.
Seems crazy to expect consumers to continue to pay that much money now that so many artists are giving away their music for free (and that's even if you ignore the elephant in the room - filesharing)
Surprised Drake wasn't included .... would have been game,set,match.