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Played fine today but was the obvious choice to take off for Walcott.
 

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In reality Welbeck looked more of a threat than all of them though I can see your point about them being more likely to score except Ozil. Ozil really did nothing of note in the game except for one pass, which was nothing out of the ordinary.
That's just it though, he always looks threatening, he just rarely is. He's been doing it his entire career.
 

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I can understand keeping on the likes of Sanchez, Giroud, Cazorla ahead of Welbeck but Ozil literally strolls around doing nothing.

Welbeck played a bigger part for the first goal aside from not being invisible for the rest of the game ala Ozil.
I must have been watching a different game, I thought Ozil looked far more likely to create something today. Which makes sense as he tends to create more chances per game than any of the other Arsenal attackers.

Plus Walcott for Welbeck is a more like for like substitution anyway.
 

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I can understand keeping on the likes of Sanchez, Giroud, Cazorla ahead of Welbeck but Ozil literally strolls around doing nothing.

Welbeck played a bigger part for the first goal aside from not being invisible for the rest of the game ala Ozil.
Well like I said Wenger clearly thought Ozil was likely to create something out of nothing, so aside from being involved in the 2nd goal he also could have had an assist if Giroud/Sanchez's late header had gone in. Ozil is clearly a luxury player who doesn't look great when things aren't going well but he has shown to be able to be creative in the past and that's what you need when you're facing deep defence. I thought he did ok enough, he is an easy target on here for some reason.
 

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I must have been watching a different game, I thought Ozil looked far more likely to create something today. Which makes sense as he tends to create more chances per game than any of the other Arsenal attackers.

Plus Walcott for Welbeck is a more like for like substitution anyway.
Walcott has been a shower of dung of late. He'll be sold this summer.
 

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I can understand keeping on the likes of Sanchez, Giroud, Cazorla ahead of Welbeck but Ozil literally strolls around doing nothing.

Welbeck played a bigger part for the first goal aside from not being invisible for the rest of the game ala Ozil.
Weird that you say this on a day when Özil had a good game. Until the last few minutes he'd constantly been at the heart of our attacks.
 

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That's just it though, he always looks threatening, he just rarely is. He's been doing it his entire career.
No. He was threatening. Pretty much every single Arsenal attack of note in the first half involved Welbeck including the goal.

I must have been watching a different game, I thought Ozil looked far more likely to create something today. Which makes sense as he tends to create more chances per game than any of the other Arsenal attackers.

Plus Walcott for Welbeck is a more like for like substitution anyway.
Ozil disappeared for most of the game, not sure what you were watching. Was slightly more involved towards the end but that's about it.
 

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Only just back from injury though, isn't he? Bound to take him a while to get going again.
He's been back since January. I don't think his problem is rustiness. He's stalled as a player. Doesn't contribute defensively at all and still scores when he doesn't have time to think but dallies and dallies until the chance is gone when he has time. Frustrating.
 

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He's the type of player who if it came altogether for him.. could be an absolute star, potentially has everything and at the same time can't seem to make the right decisions at the decisive moments. Played well today I thought.
Physically. I don't see hints of the technique or brain to back that up. He's a talent, and will get better under Wenger, but he's nowhere near any top level.
 

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He's failed to make the transition from a great talent to a great player. The amounts of time he overruns the ball, picks the wrong choice, loses balance when it comes to the end of a move is astonishing.
 

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I wonder if Arsenal fans feel the same way I used to when Welbeck scored for us: that was good, time to prepare for 5 matches of mediocrity.
 

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He's failed to make the transition from a great talent to a great player. The amounts of time he overruns the ball, picks the wrong choice, loses balance when it comes to the end of a move is astonishing.
I said it when he was with us, and I'll likely be saying it for the rest of his career.

He has all the physical skills to be a top footballer, he does not have the mental ability to go with it.
Whether it is over thinking, panic, or just cannot cope with pressure, he does not have the mentality to cope with being 'the man'. The very best are instinctive, Rooney was never going to miss that chance against Tottenham, he just does it. Wellbeck, I would have expected him to miss at that point, not because he doesnt have the skill, but because his mind doesnt work fast enough for it.
 

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I said it when he was with us, and I'll likely be saying it for the rest of his career.

He has all the physical skills to be a top footballer, he does not have the mental ability to go with it.
Whether it is over thinking, panic, or just cannot cope with pressure, he does not have the mentality to cope with being 'the man'. The very best are instinctive, Rooney was never going to miss that chance against Tottenham, he just does it. Wellbeck, I would have expected him to miss at that point, not because he doesnt have the skill, but because his mind doesnt work fast enough for it.
I think he lacks the last 5% that top strikers have. He's a good player, and will score goals over a season - but he'll never be a top striker.

The problem he'll have as long as he's at a big club is that big clubs want top strikers. Fans want, and expect to see top players playing upfront in these sides. At Arsenal he's already up against Giroud, who looks a much better player. The real problems will come if and whn Arnseal spend big money on a Cavani or someone similar.
 

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With all this stuff about Mandžukić being in argument with Simeone I heard Arsenal is interested in him.
Its probably bs but is it possible Wenger will go for another striker in the summer and what will it mean for Welbeck?
 

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With all this stuff about Mandžukić being in argument with Simeone I heard Arsenal is interested in him.
Its probably bs but is it possible Wenger will go for another striker in the summer and what will it mean for Welbeck?
Even more time on the bench would be my guess
 

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Just a little more polish to his game and he'd be top class.
 

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Just a little more polish to his game and he'd be top class.
Will he feck. He's 24 now, unless he miraculously goes from being a poor finisher to a great one, he'll never be top class.

we've been expecting Welbeck to become top class for five years now, and it never happens, even now, he's playing regularly like he wanted to, and it's still not looking like it's going to happen.

if I were an Arsenal fan I'd be looking at him and thinking he's not a good enough player for the club going forward, given the aspirations they should have.
 

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23 starts in the EPL and CL and only 7 goals. A strike rate of a goal every 3.29 games. His goals came against West Ham, WBA, Aston Villa, Hull and Galatasaray (3).

His crowning glory for the season was scoring that gift against us in the FA Cup.

if I were an Arsenal fan I'd be looking at him and thinking he's not a good enough player for the club going forward, given the aspirations they should have.
Judging by most of the comments from Arsenal fans on here, they are already a good way to that conclusion. It will be easier for them to accept due to the lack of sentiment that is often apparent when some United fans are judging his ability.
 

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Will he feck. He's 24 now, unless he miraculously goes from being a poor finisher to a great one, he'll never be top class.

we've been expecting Welbeck to become top class for five years now, and it never happens, even now, he's playing regularly like he wanted to, and it's still not looking like it's going to happen.

if I were an Arsenal fan I'd be looking at him and thinking he's not a good enough player for the club going forward, given the aspirations they should have.
I didn't actually predict that he'll do it. Sometimes it's that edge that escapes players. But he is close, for sure.
 

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Of course I didn't want Danny to score against United in the FA Cup but I am sure he read some of the unfair rubbish written in this thread. It must have provided a great motivator - not that he needs this to be motivated. Fair play to Danny.
 

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So now the Arsenal squad is fully fit he can't even get into the starting 11, hope this puts things into perspective to all those people who were saying how tragic it was that we sold him and how he will become a goal machine at Arsenal with midfield they have. 4 in 23 league games and 8 in 31 overall, 3 of those came in one game. LVG was right to sell him, simply not good enough.
 

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So now the Arsenal squad is fully fit he can't even get into the starting 11, hope this puts things into perspective to all those people who were saying how tragic it was that we sold him and how he will become a goal machine at Arsenal with midfield they have. 4 in 23 league games and 8 in 31 overall, 3 of those came in one game. LVG was right to sell him, simply not good enough.
Not sure that he would have been sold had he not insisted

He would have got game time, no doubt about that
 

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Not sure that he would have been sold had he not insisted

He would have got game time, no doubt about that
With the form we're currently showing, particularly the player's in his position thank god he isn't getting game time.
 

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With the form we're currently showing, particularly the player's in his position thank god he isn't getting game time.
And yet he still continues to do the business on the international stage

Go figure

Personally I still think his style of play would benefit our side in certain games, particularly his pace, and ability to stretch play
 

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When we were consisting with Falcao and RVP and their ponderous displays were hindering us at the time, it was natural to look across at Welbeck and be annoyed, since he added pace and link up play that we were missing. Since other players like Young, Fellaini and Herrera have started playing we've been brilliant and it's easier to forget about little Danny.
 

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He would still be an asset in the side but as a squad player which he wasn't happy being at the club. Now he is a squad player at Arsenal so hope he's ok with that.
 

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I don't think the argument was about his pace and being good on the counter, it was about his goalscoring, he wanted to be played consistently upfront but he's simply not up to it. So if he wasn't going to play upfront for us it would be on the wing and we already have pace on the wings with Di Maria and Young who are both better on the ball than him too and not to mention Mata's renaissance on the wing too. We haven't missed him at all and we don't need him either.
 

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So now the Arsenal squad is fully fit he can't even get into the starting 11, hope this puts things into perspective to all those people who were saying how tragic it was that we sold him and how he will become a goal machine at Arsenal with midfield they have. 4 in 23 league games and 8 in 31 overall, 3 of those came in one game. LVG was right to sell him, simply not good enough.
This pleases me greatly.
 

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To be honest I can understand why someone would be pleased by that given the outcry and hysteria following the initial Welbeck sale. When that happened the last thing I personally wanted was Welbeck to do well like Pogba has at Juventus, the mourning would be so tedious.
 

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Imagine being pleased greatly by that.
Indeed.

To be honest I can understand why someone would be pleased by that given the outcry and hysteria following the initial Welbeck sale. When that happened the last thing I personally wanted was Welbeck to do well like Pogba has at Juventus, the mourning would be so tedious.
Exactly. Then combine that with his odious celebration and you have it.
 

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Never understood why people were annoyed he left. He's bambi on ice!
 
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