Spiersey
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Floyd landed 60 more punches than Manny. But Manny looked like he threw more so should have won or something !!!!
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Can we look at the win:loss ratio of those fighters againsy Floyd's as well?The reason Mayweather isn't one of the top 5 boxers of all time is that he fights for decisions, not knockouts. The last time he knocked someone out and it wasn't A) a woman or B) a cheap shot was 8 years ago.
Look at the knockout:win ratio of Ali, Robinson, Johnson, Leonard, Louis, Tyson, Marciano, Foreman, etc. compared to Mayweather.
Would love for that to happen but no chance Floyd takes on that beast.
This was the same problem last year, Khan apparently backed down from Floyd's offer to fight.Ramadan runs through to the end of July. He can't really get ready for a fight in 6 weeks, that too against Floyd.
I agree. Unless some boxing prodigy emerges, I think I'll rather watch UFC.Boxing is definitely declining.
People want to be entertained, and that wasn't entertainment.
As I expected. Mayweather avoided Pacquiao when Pacquiao was at his best. GGG would likely destroy it, but then again I think that it would be a bot of an unfair advantage. It is something elsefighting a De La Hoya who was past it and something else fighting a boxer on his prime like GGG.He said 154, but Floyd Sr said he doesn't want his son to go near him.
It'll most probably be Khan. Thurman is possible too, as is Danny Garcia. Doubt Floyd will give Manny the rematch.
His speed and reactions are natural I would have thought. He was born into a boxing family and has boxed since he could walk, it is like breathing for him. You can coach the techniques but then you need someone with the speed, reactions and most importantly the dedication to rehearse and perfect those techniques. Then you need a personality that is able to cope with the pressure of this level of event. So yeah, it takes a very rare kind of person.Agreed. Its like he sees the punches before the opponent throws them. Its incredible.
Surely that kind of skill is something he was just born with? As opposed to something that can be coached?
Yeah I think it is a lot of natural talent, he has amazing genetics and he puts in a lot of hard work. Never out of shape.Agreed. Its like he sees the punches before the opponent throws them. Its incredible.
Surely that kind of skill is something he was just born with? As opposed to something that can be coached?
First part fair enough, but they are 39 and 36, no one wants to see them retire with a brain injuryBoxing is definitely declining.
People want to be entertained, and that wasn't entertainment.
If you want to be entertained, watch Canelo vs Kirkland next Saturday. And then GGG the Saturday after. Plenty of high level entertaining fighters out there.I agree. Unless some boxing prodigy emerges, I think I'll rather watch UFC.
Yes, I would say so.Is ufc more aggressive?
GGG says he will go to 150 but Floyd won't take the fight I don't believe. It is the one fight out there that would really enhance his legacy though.Would love for that to happen but no chance Floyd takes on that beast.
Also wouldn't weight be an issue?
Yeah but Oscar was never a natural junior middleweight, while GGG has been at middleweight all his life. Having said that, GGG coming down to 154 could affect his performance. It'd be a great match-up, but no way Floyd takes that fight. And it's probably a bit unfair on Floyd to demand it too.As I expected. Mayweather avoided Pacquiao when Pacquiao was at his best. GGG would likely destroy it, but then again I think that it would be a bot of an unfair advantage. It is something elsefighting a De La Hoya who was past it and something else fighting a boxer on his prime like GGG.
But that could happen if they was 29 and 26...First part fair enough, but they are 39 and 36, no one wants to see them retire with a brain injury
I can barely tolerate the amount of injuries in UFC. Guess we're only another year away from Velasquez' next fight.I agree. Unless some boxing prodigy emerges, I think I'll rather watch UFC.
He'll beat GGG at 154 and people will say he drained GGG. The guy can't win.As I expected. Mayweather avoided Pacquiao when Pacquiao was at his best. GGG would likely destroy it, but then again I think that it would be a bot of an unfair advantage. It is something elsefighting a De La Hoya who was past it and something else fighting a boxer on his prime like GGG.
There are lots of boring UFC fights, especially when they go to the ground. Boxing like any sport is prone to dull affairs. It just so happens that this fight was hyped up to crazy expectations but all the evidence was there before hand that Mayweather would make this into a snore fest.Is ufc more aggressive?
well 16-112 seemed about right, that post was around the 7th 8th round didn't agree with the 118 - 110 at all.You're off your rocker if up you think Floyd's just one ahead
I agree. However, it might be the only fight which may elevate him to top 3 or so best fighters of all time.Yeah but Oscar was never a natural junior middleweight, while GGG has been at middleweight all his lift. Having said that, GGG coming down to 154 could affect his performance. It'd be a great match-up, but no way Floyd takes that fight. And it's probably a bit unfair on Floyd to demand it too.
Do you think that he could win against GGG?He'll beat GGG at 154 and people will say he drained GGG. The guy can't win.
He didn't avoid Pacquiao either, both are to blame. Even Roach blamed Mannh recently for the fight not happening the first time around.
Also, if they did fight in 2010, do you really think it would have been any different?
No one will fight him in fairness. The 'undisputed' middleweight champ won't go near him him.So GGG is the new flavour of the month.
I'm a big GGG fan, but he needs to step it up himself. Its not like he's tearing apart the top fighters in and around his division.
Yeah, pure legacy fight. People will respect him for taking that fight no matter what happened. But that's what all of the true TBEs did, they dared to be great.I agree. However, it might be the only fight which may elevate him to top 3 or so best fighters of all time.
Because he is too good for other champions to want to fight him. Whydo you think Floyd doesn't fight him?So GGG is the new flavour of the month.
I'm a big GGG fan, but he needs to step it up himself. Its not like he's tearing apart the top fighters in and around his division.
Aye, people immersed in a sport will naturally think theirs is more entertaining. It'd be weird if they didn't really. I'm sure a lot of boxing fans find UFC as tedious as some UFC fans find boxing.There are lots of boring UFC fights, especially when they go to the ground. Boxing like any sport is prone to dull affairs. It just so happens that this fight was hyped up to crazy expectations but all the evidence was there before hand that Mayweather would make this into a snore fest.
There are crazy action fights in boxing almost every week.
Have you thought maybe he threw less punches because of the way Floyd backed him up and countered him early? How many punches has Manny thrown in his last 2/3 fights, a lot is the answer. Pacquiao has always struggled with two types of fighters. 1. Counter punchers 2. Boxers with good movement. Mayweather is brilliant in both facets.I agree. However, it might be the only fight which may elevate him to top 3 or so best fighters of all time.
Do you think that he could win against GGG?
If the fight happened in 2010, it might have gone differently. May would have likely win (similar to tonight) but Pac was more explosive than he is now. I mean he thrown today less punches than May, does anyone think that this could have happened 5 years ago?
Well that's rubbish. What about the 24 year old Mexican who did 2.2m PPVs in 2013? Don't see anyone in UFC doing that. Or even half of that...RIP Boxing. When Mayweather and Pacquiao retire it's over. No stars left.
He threw less punches because of mayweather rather than him aging. Everyone throws stupidly low amounts of punches at Floyd compared to normal. It's not a coincidence.I agree. However, it might be the only fight which may elevate him to top 3 or so best fighters of all time.
Do you think that he could win against GGG?
If the fight happened in 2010, it might have gone differently. May would have likely win (similar to tonight) but Pac was more explosive than he is now. I mean he thrown today less punches than May, does anyone think that this could have happened 5 years ago?
De La Hoya has been bitter about Mayweather since they fought. They always take shots at each other, I wouldnt be surprised to see Mayweather get the De La Hoya cross dressing picture back out soon.Tweet
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Unfair to compare heavyweights to a welterweight, look at his knockout record compared to Pacquiao for example and it's quite similar.The reason Mayweather isn't one of the top 5 boxers of all time is that he fights for decisions, not knockouts. The last time he knocked someone out and it wasn't A) a woman or B) a cheap shot was 8 years ago.
Look at the knockout:win ratio of Ali, Robinson, Johnson, Leonard, Louis, Tyson, Marciano, Foreman, etc. compared to Mayweather.
I'm no UFC expert but hasn't it also been struggling recently? Boxing seems to "Die" every year and yet people will come back as soon as a big fight is announced.RIP Boxing. When Mayweather and Pacquiao retire it's over. No stars left.
Long live the UFC.
No one wants to fight him which is why he's stuck fighting who he does. Listen to any interview with any boxer and they say he doesn't "sell fights" It may be true to an extent but he'd sell fights vs a big name, just none of them will go near him.So GGG is the new flavour of the month.
I'm a big GGG fan, but he needs to step it up himself. Its not like he's tearing apart the top fighters in and around his division.
UFC also has the advantage of being one promotion that dominates its respective sport, allowing it to make the fights that the fans want and giving its stars as much exposure as possible.There are lots of boring UFC fights, especially when they go to the ground. Boxing like any sport is prone to dull affairs. It just so happens that this fight was hyped up to crazy expectations but all the evidence was there before hand that Mayweather would make this into a snore fest.
There are crazy action fights in boxing almost every week.
Exactly. No-one gave a chance to Ali when he had to fght Foreman. Almost a decade older than Foreman while Foreman was on a fantastic form, destroying everyone. If Ali wouldn't fight that match, would he had been remembered as he is now? I doubt it.Yeah, pure legacy fight. People will respect him for taking that fight no matter what happened. But that's what all of the true TBEs did, they dared to be great.
Anyhow, I think GGG would cut of the ring and kill him with body shots most likely.
I know GGG has gone on record to say he doesn't what to move up to Super Middleweight to fight Ward or even Froch, I think he could do that, of meet both in the middle.No one will fight him in fairness. The 'undisputed' middleweight champ won't go near him him.
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Yes I do. Mayweather has a significant reach advantage over Paquiao that makes his style even more effective. I don't believe that Pac could ever have beaten him.