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At long last, pound-for-pound greats Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao will fight.

Yes, the bout that looms as one of the most anticipated in boxing history is finally on.

For more than five years sports fans have clamored for a summit meeting between the two best fighters in the world, and after various failed negotiations -- and a protracted and difficult effort to make the fight in recent months -- they will get it on May 2 to unify the fighters' welterweight world titles at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

The showdown is a lock to be the richest in boxing history and will, barring a draw, settle the issue that has been debated for years: Who is the No. 1 fighter in boxing and who is the king of this era?

Mayweather made the announcement on Friday afternoon on a social media platform called Shots, of which he is an investor.

"I am glad my decision to meet with Manny and discuss making this fight happen helped get the deal done," Mayweather said, referring to a chance Jan. 27 meeting with Pacquiao at a Miami Heat game followed by a private discussion after the game. "Giving the fans what they want to see is always my main focus. This will be the biggest event in the history of the sport."

In addition to the future Hall of Famers finally hammering out a deal for their welterweight title unification bout -- one that will see Mayweather receive the lion's share of a 60-40 money split in a fight that could gross around $400 million -- rival premium cable networks Showtime, which has Mayweather under contract, and HBO, which has a deal with Pacquiao, went through a brutal negotiation.

The networks resultingly will come together to produce and distribute a joint pay-per-view telecast, which is expected to cost a record-high $89.95 (and probably $10 more for high definition).

"I am very happy that Floyd Mayweather and I can give the fans the fight they have wanted for so many years," Pacquiao said. "They have waited long enough and they deserve it. It is an honor to be part of this historic event. I dedicate this fight to all the fans who willed this fight to happen and, as always, to bring glory to the Philippines and my fellow Filipinos around the world."

Many involved expected the announcement to come on Thursday, but Mayweather was upset because Top Rank, Pacquiao's promoter, was leaking word of the impending announcement and Mayweather wanted it to be a surprise.

"Boxing fans and sports fans around the world will witness greatness on May 2," Mayweather said. "I am the best ever, TBE, and this fight will be another opportunity to showcase my skills and do what I do best, which is win. Manny is going to try to do what 47 before him failed to do, but he won't be successful. He will be number 48."

According those familiar with the agreement, the contract Mayweather signed for the fight gave him the right to be the one to announce the fight, even though he was obligated to notify Top Rank of when he would do it.

On Friday afternoon, Top Rank was notified and Mayweather made the announcement about an hour later, though the deal had been done for a couple of days with both sides having signed the paperwork. Contracts were also signed by broadcasters HBO and Showtime, who will team for a historic joint pay-per-view.

"It's hasn't been easy," Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told ESPN.com. "But I think in some strange way the inability to get the fight done before now enhances its value and this is one event that the public all over the world has been talking about and discussing for years. The interest in the fight will be absolutely red-hot. I've been promoting boxing for nearly 50 years and there is nothing that has come close to this because there has been nothing that has been so difficult to come to fruition. As interest is concerned, this is akin to the first (Muhammad) Ali-(Joe) Frazier fight.

"You have to be grateful that this is finally happening. You can't bemoan the false starts and the inability to do this before. It's here now."

The fight is expected to shatter every revenue record in boxing history, including the pay-per-view buy record of 2.4 million generated by Mayweather's 2007 junior middleweight championship fight against Oscar De La Hoya; the all-time pay-per-view revenue record of $150 million generated by Mayweather's 2013 junior middleweight championship fight against Canelo Alvarez; and the all-time gate record of $20,003,150.

"Everyone involved, including Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao, knows this fight simply had to happen," said Stephen Espinoza, executive vice president and general manager of Showtime Sports. "All of us are thrilled to be able to deliver this event to boxing fans around the world.

"Now, for the second time under his current deal with Showtime Networks, Floyd Mayweather has agreed to fight an opponent that many people thought he'd never face. We set an all-time pay-per-view record with the first event back in September 2013 (with Alvarez) and we look forward to another record-breaking performance on May 2."

Said HBO Sports president Ken Hershman: "Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather have been the two most prominent fighters in the sport of boxing for the past decade, and fight fans around the world have been clamoring for them to face each other.

"And now, on May 2, in what everyone believes will be the biggest boxing event of all time, fight fans have been granted their wish. May 2 will be a signature moment for the sport of boxing and HBO Sports is thrilled to be a part of this spectacular event. I know the fighters and their teams will be primed to excel and we plan to work closely with everyone involved to deliver the same level of performance from a broadcast perspective."

It is only the second time Showtime and HBO have made such a deal. The first time was for the highly anticipated 2002 fight between then-heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis, who was with HBO, and former champion Mike Tyson, who was with Showtime.

For years, Mayweather and Pacquiao have been the two best fighters in the world, fighting in the same weight class but having not faced each other despite constant public demand.

Both have been considered the pound-for-pound king at various times, with Mayweather having held that mythical position for the past few years with Pacquiao right behind him for most of that period.

Born in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and living in Las Vegas, "Money" Mayweather (47-0, 26 KOs), who turns 38 on Tuesday, has won world titles in five weight classes, mainly with his defensive brilliance and speed, while becoming the highest-paid athlete in the world.

Pacquiao (57-5-2, 38 KOs), a 36-year-old southpaw known for his speed, power and aggressive style, became the only boxer in history to win world titles in eight weight divisions -- flyweight, junior featherweight, featherweight, junior lightweight, lightweight, junior welterweight, welterweight and junior middleweight -- while also generating hundreds of millions of dollars and being elected to congress in his native Philippines, where he is a national icon.

"The reason I like my guy's chances so much is because of his speed, the tremendous number of punches he throws, the quality of his punches and the fact that he is left-handed," Arum said. "Top Rank promoted Floyd Mayweather for 10½ years and we recognized that he had difficulty handling a speedy, left-handed fighter and that he and his father (and trainer, Floyd Mayweather Sr.) were insistent that we not match Floyd with a southpaw. I remember two fights he had with southpaws who didn't have the ability Mann has but who gave him trouble -- (DeMarcus) 'Chop Chop' Corley, who buzzed him and had him in real trouble and Zab Judah."

Said Freddie Roach, Pacquiao's Hall of Fame trainer: "Floyd should enjoy being the A-Side while he can because on May 2 Manny is going to put him on his backside."

Since 2009, Mayweather-Pacquiao has loomed as boxing's biggest fight, but it took all these years to make it a reality.



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What time will this be, GMT? Early morning?
 

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I know everyone wanted this to happen 5 years ago....but...forget all that shit, it is finally happening and not as late as it could have been.

Really can't wait for this.
 
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Huge fight, regardless if it isn't going to be as great as it could have been.. the sport needs this, everyone will be talking about it.
 

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I know everyone wanted this to happen 5 years ago....but...forget all that shit, it is finally happening and not as late as it could have been.

Really can't wait for this.
In know little about boxing.

Are they both still at their peaks?
 

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How true is the rumour that Mayweather always said he would do the fight as long as Pacquiao agreed to regular drug tests in the period leading up to it?
 

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I'm not into boxing at all, but I'll still end up watching this just because it's such a big deal. Even I know that people have been wanting these two to fight for years.
 

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Their last fights.. still life in them yet, so shouldn't be a flop by any means and collectively they've dealt with the new generation in Maidana/Bradley.
 

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How true is the rumour that Mayweather always said he would do the fight as long as Pacquiao agreed to regular drug tests in the period leading up to it?
I really doubt it was that, time has been in Mayweathers favour - for me at least - and it's an excuse that allows him to reason why it was ducked for so long without shining too much light on the advantage he has now.
 

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How true is the rumour that Mayweather always said he would do the fight as long as Pacquiao agreed to regular drug tests in the period leading up to it?
Total bollocks. Manny agreed to drug testing years ago and the Mayweathers themselves had to go to court because of slanderous allegations against Pacquiao regarding PED use.

In a statement released Tuesday night through the mediator in the case, the Mayweathers said they "wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Manny Pacquiao has used or is using any performance-enhancing drugs, nor are they aware of any evidence that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs."

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/i...ather-manny-pacquiao-settling-defamation-case
 

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How true is the rumour that Mayweather always said he would do the fight as long as Pacquiao agreed to regular drug tests in the period leading up to it?
May wanted Manny to agree to Olympic style blood tests before agreeing to the fight. Manny didn't want to pander to the request citing that losing blood will set him off his game before the fight (I think they wanted it a week/2 weeks before the fight...hardly ideal).
 

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I really doubt it was that, time has been in Mayweathers favour - for me at least - and it's an excuse that allows him to reason why it was ducked for so long without shining too much light on the advantage he has now.
Total bollocks. Manny agreed to drug testing years ago and the Mayweathers themselves had to go to court because of slanderous allegations against Pacquiao regarding PED use.

In a statement released Tuesday night through the mediator in the case, the Mayweathers said they "wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Manny Pacquiao has used or is using any performance-enhancing drugs, nor are they aware of any evidence that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs."

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/i...ather-manny-pacquiao-settling-defamation-case
May wanted Manny to agree to Olympic style blood tests before agreeing to the fight. Manny didn't want to pander to the request citing that losing blood will set him off his game before the fight (I think they wanted it a week/2 weeks before the fight...hardly ideal).
Fair enough, thanks for clearing it up. My take on the delay is that both knew if they timed it right there was a huge pay day to look forward to while a loss for either 3-8 years ago would have been a big set back. In simple terms it made no business sense going for the fight too early and we all know what a business man Mayweather is.

A drinking buddy from my local was well into his boxing but had very little respect for the modern sport. He believed that great fighters would fight for their honour or reputation and look to cement themselves as the undisputed greatest of their generation while modern fighters just construct their careers according to the most lucrative payday route. Manny and Mayweather should have both been chomping at the bit to do this 5 years ago and then shout from the roof top who the greatest was. Not wait til both of them are in their twilight years and forever leave fans wondering who would have won at peak fitness.
 

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Fair enough, thanks for clearing it up. My take on the delay is that both knew if they timed it right there was a huge pay day to look forward to while a loss for either 3-8 years ago would have been a big set back. In simple terms it made no business sense going for the fight too early and we all know what a business man Mayweather is.

A drinking buddy from my local was well into his boxing but had very little respect for the modern sport. He believed that great fighters would fight for their honour or reputation and look to cement themselves as the undisputed greatest of their generation while modern fighters just construct their careers according to the most lucrative payday route. Manny and Mayweather should have both been chomping at the bit to do this 5 years ago and then shout from the roof top who the greatest was. Not wait til both of them are in their twilight years and forever leave fans wondering who would have won at peak fitness.
I totally agree with your fellow drinker, but don't think for a minute that Pacquiao was ever in the least bit reluctant to take this fight. Usually in these things it's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other but in this case it has purely been Mayweather wanting to wait until Pacquiao had slowed down enough. Pacquiao has losses on his record, like Sugar Ray Robinson and Ray Leonard. It's because they took on all comers and never shirked a challenge.
 

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I totally agree with your fellow drinker, but don't think for a minute that Pacquiao was ever in the least bit reluctant to take this fight. Usually in these things it's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other but in this case it has purely been Mayweather wanting to wait until Pacquiao had slowed down enough. Pacquiao has losses on his record, like Sugar Ray Robinson and Ray Leonard. It's because they took on all comers and never shirked a challenge.
Exactly.

If anything, May has turned into more of a business than a fighter. Manny hasn't stopped (to his own detriment), and has gone all over the place for his next fight. And credit to him, he's what the sport should be about (about proving yourself to be the best). It's better than wheeling yourself out once a year for a big payday, loads of photos and acting like a mug on Instagram.

But, boxing as a sport isn't what it once was and now I'm off on a tangent rant again so I'm going to stop.
 

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But, boxing as a sport isn't what it once was and now I'm off on a tangent rant again so I'm going to stop.
It has gone downhill since the 1980s with all the half divisions being introduced and multiple belts within those divisions. Then you have the warrior spirit being replaced with business acumen, which Mayweather is the embodiment of.

There are still great boxing events from time to time and I really enjoy the sport, but the days when the heavyweight crown was universally viewed as the greatest prize in sport are long gone.
 

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It has gone downhill since the 1980s with all the half divisions being introduced and multiple belts within those divisions. Then you have the warrior spirit being replaced with business acumen, which Mayweather is the embodiment of.

There are still great boxing events from time to time and I really enjoy the sport, but the days when the heavyweight crown was universally viewed as the greatest prize in sport are long gone.
Agree completely. The Golden Age is long gone.

Those that complain about football being over commercialised, and finance orientated should take a look at the boxing industry.
 

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Looking forward to it although this should have happened 4 years ago, Manny isn't at the same level anymore.
 

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Agree completely. The Golden Age is long gone.

Those that complain about football being over commercialised, and finance orientated should take a look at the boxing industry.
What prevents boxing having one sporting federation like all other sports? Is it just greed? It's a travesty that this is happening now.
 

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Looking forward to it although this should have happened 4 years ago, Manny isn't at the same level anymore.
Nor is Floyd. Maidana won like 8 rounds against him across two fights. They've both regressed.
 

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If it goes ahead as planned I think it's Mayweather's if it gets to the scorecards and he hasn't been knocked down. It's at the MGM and I suspect it will be Kenny "on the take" Bayless to referee. Manny has to either stop him or at the very least score a knock-down, If he's the fighter I think he is then he can still do that. Around the time when these two were fighting the same guys and Pacquiao was walking through Hatton and Cotto I would have been far more confident predicting a Pacquiao win.
 

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Mayweather will win and all the Pacquiao fans will say it means nothing because it's so late in their careers and he dodged for years.

Or visa versa.

Yea, I'm glad it's happening and I'll definitely watch, but it's 4-5 years too late.
 

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5 years ago, this would have been a very closely fought bout. As it stands, I can't see any outcome other than an unanimous Mayweather win.

Still going to watch it, on paper, it's the best fight in years (since Tyson/Lewis, or Mayweather/De La Hoya).
 

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Mayweather looked a lot slower in his fights vs Maidana. Mayweather got caught with a few shots which we are not accustomed to see. Manny still looked as fast ever against Bradley, Rios and Algieri. I think Pacquiao has a better chance to beat Mayweather now then he did 5 years ago.
 

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How true is the rumour that Mayweather always said he would do the fight as long as Pacquiao agreed to regular drug tests in the period leading up to it?
Pacman agreed to that. I think its unanimous that Mayweather ducked Pacquiao for a long time. I think he would have won then and now, but it will probably be easier now.

Wish Pacquiao KOs the cnut though.
 

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Think Floyd will do it on points. Think he knows that Manny has lost some of that hand speed that could have troubled Floyd a lot a few years back. Still glad it's happening though and hope that Manny can stick it to him. Regardless of if Manny beats him though Floyd is still the best of our time and an amazing talent, it's just a pity that the "pussy" tag will probably stick with him forever because he didn't take this fight when he should have (would have expected him to win it anyway back then too).
 

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Pacquiao in 2009/10/11 would have beaten Mayweather imo, that's when this fight should have happened. Still better late then never, I think Mayweather will take this by points.
 

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I listened to a 60min+ long interview with Manny not too long ago. He said that he's done everything to make the fight happen. He gave Floyd the bigger cut of the money, choice of gloves, even said he would give his paycheck to the charity of Mayweahter's choice. I believe the guy. Floyd has been looking out for his record for a long time.
 

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Pacquiao in 2009/10/11 would have beaten Mayweather imo, that's when this fight should have happened. Still better late then never, I think Mayweather will take this by points.
Agree with this. Mayweather is a cherry picker, no-one will convince me otherwise, and I'm not at all surprised it's now happening that Pacquiao has regressed. Get your money on Mayweather to win on points.