For as long as he cannot go to a Champions League club. You cannot honestly believe that a player could decide to stay at a mid-table club for his career and give up on Champions League football (which he's never going to get at Spurs) if big clubs come approaching, it almost never happens. Question is whether Kane is going to become that good that he attracts serious interest from clubs like United, Chelsea, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern etc.
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I realise that some United fans have become reduced to measuring everything by the crude yardstick of money, but that's their lookout.
Kane has just had a breakthrough season, under Pochettino, at the club he's been with since the age of 11. And he signed a new 5.5 year contract just a few months ago, running until summer 2020: United could offer to treble Kane's wages this summer and he'd still choose to stay at Spurs.
Moreover, in character, attitude and motivation Kane is the polar opposite of someone like Raheem Sterling.
I agree tbh, absolutley no reason for him to be looking for a move after one season. He seems quite level headed, but in a year or 2, if spurs are not playing UCL football, and he keeps up his form, then it will be difficult to keep hold of him I would imagine. Not even thinking of United when I say that either, but all the UCL playing teams will be looking at him.
That policy also has value in that British players are generally less likely to want to move abroad to Spain during their prime.
No. United could offer to sign him this summer and Kane would choose to stay at Spurs. Moreover it's silly to say that he's "never going to get" CL football at Spurs when we have finished in the top 4 twice in recent years. And in any case, IF it eventually comes to Kane wanting to leave he won't be sold to a Prem club.
That's just silly. If United agreed a fee with Spurs Kane would go. He won't openly ask for a move yet obviously but it's foolish to think he'd turn it down if he were given a chance. Actually very, very few players turn down transfers once their club have agreed a fee - I cannot think of any examples from recent times actuallly.
Spurs have only been in CL once, doesn't matter if they finished 4th in a season when 4th didn't grant you a CL spot. You're far behind Chelsea, City, United and Arsenal and they all have considerably bigger budgets than you. There are also Liverpool who are ahead of you and can probably afford to be as attractive in the market as you. I don't think Spurs are making top 4 anytime soon.
I don't think he's going to have an option to go to a CL club outside England straight from Spurs. English forwards aren't thought of very highly outside of country and the fee he'd command would be too high for the likes of Real Madrid and Bayern to consider him ahead of continental targets.
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If Tottenham accepted a bid (wouldn't happen this summer any way, but hypothetically), plus van Gaal actually said to Kane that he'd be his main striker from this season, and United offered to double his wages, he'd almost certainly accept it.
I do agree that he wouldn't kick up a fuss if Tottenham rejected a bid though. And he wouldn't had in a transfer request at the first sign of interest.
I do agree that he wouldn't kick up a fuss if Tottenham rejected a bid though. And he wouldn't had in a transfer request at the first sign of interest.
It's your hypotheticals that are silly: Levy is hardly going to sell a new star player who is more than happy to stay at Spurs: Modric, Bale etc were sold because they wanted to leave. Kane doesn't. And even IF he does eventually want to leave, he won't be sold to a Prem club (regardless of any hypothetical lack of interest abroad), so you can slice it up any way you want, but Kane will never signed by United whether for next season or any season thereafter.
And yes, it does matter that we finished 4th in the season when we were only denied CL football by Chelsea fluking it. Five or six years ago people were saying the exact same thing as what you're saying now (Spurs will never finish in the top 4, look at these clubs that have more money etc etc), but we did it twice .... and can do it again now.
It's Mr Levy'd decision, not young Harry's. If he says to the lad, "we've accepted a bid..." that's the end of the players time at THS.
You really live in a fantasy world where you honestly believe that? Who are Spurs to push out of the top 4 is the question you need to ask yourself ;-)
My hypotheticals are only silly because United (or any other club) are not going to offer £40m+ for Kane, if anyone were to do that though Levy would make the best decision from business point of view i.e. sell him.
No, it doesn't. You still weren't in the CL. It's still 1 CL campaign since it began, and you've been supposed CL spot competitors for the last decade.
As I've already said, five or six years ago people were saying the exact same thing as what you're saying now (Spurs will never finish in the top 4, look at these clubs that have more money etc etc), but then we went and did it twice. What's been done before can be done again.
No Levy wouldn't sell for £40m if that was offered now. Kane has been the top English striker this season by some margin, voted Young Player of the Year, and at his young age will likely only get better. Besides which Spurs don't need the money. It's also the case that the price of players generally has been rising fast - witness the £30m that you paid for Shaw a year ago for instance - due to the huge increases in money coming into the Prem: £40m ain't what it used to be.
Not being in the CL in the season concerned was due to circumstances beyond the club's control (i.e. Chelsea fluking it), but the point is that Spurs have finished in the top 4 twice in recent years, which gives the lie to your claim that Kane Spurs can never experience CL football with us.
Who are Spurs likely to replace in the top 4, in say, the next five seasons, in your opinion?
If Harry Kane has another season like the one he had this season it would probably take 60mil plus to get Levy to sell.
If Tottenham manage two top four finishes in the next five years, they'd have overachieved.
If any of the current top four miss out on the Champions League up to twice in the next five years, they'd have underachieved.
Tottenham may manage it, but can they actually manage to repeat it regularly? Most would say 'no'.
If any of the current top four miss out on the Champions League up to twice in the next five years, they'd have underachieved.
Tottenham may manage it, but can they actually manage to repeat it regularly? Most would say 'no'.
You did it before Man City were a force and a season Chelsea sacrificed for the Champions League. Portsmouth won the cup not so long ago. It doesn't mean it's going to happen again anytime soon.
"We'll be looking to win some good trophies in the future. I want to keep progressing and keep getting better. This season has been crazy and more than what I ever expected to do so early on but it's happened, and it's how you deal with it.
"I am hoping to go on and win many trophies for Spurs and for England. That's always been the aim since I was a kid, dreaming of lifting the trophy one day for them.
"I want to be a player that does everything he can to reach his ability and I'll keep working hard. I want to win trophies."
He's definitely leaving
"I am hoping to go on and win many trophies for Spurs and for England. That's always been the aim since I was a kid, dreaming of lifting the trophy one day for them.
"I want to be a player that does everything he can to reach his ability and I'll keep working hard. I want to win trophies."
He's definitely leaving
I seem to vaguely remember Glaston coming out with some similar statements regarding Bale and perhaps even Modric. Followed by a lengthy hiatus from the Caf when they were sold...
You should have finished 3rd easily in 2013, it was a complete bottle job by your club.
I hope you keep him, Spurs are his level. United can and will get better than an expensive one season wonder.
Oh come on, it may not be literally true - ie there's a possibility you could qualify very occasionally. But the odds are against it, and if you do qualify, the chances of reaching the latter stages are minimal.
If he wants the possibility of "experiencing" CL football, Spurs may be able to offer that.
If he wants to be relatively assured of regular participation, and the chance to actually compete for the trophy, rather than just be an extra, he needs to move.
Obviously.
(And this is from somebody who would love to see Spurs regularly taking City / Chelsea / Liverpool / Arsenal's place, and would cheer them on against foreign opponents once they were in)
Actually it was in your hands. You could have finished in the top 3 and Chelsea winning it wouldn't have mattered from your perspective.
GlastonSpur must get bored defending Spurs 24/7 on here, thats some passion there.
I think he'll stay at Spurs this summer.
But you agree that if you don't make the CL in the next year or 2 then he'll probably leave next summer or the one after that?
It's like Bale or Modric. You can keep the guy for a few years and even through a summer where everyone think he's leaving, but probably not 2 of those. This year, you'll reject any bids and he probably doesn't really want to move yet. He's comfortable, still very young, at a pretty big club and a sure starter with a great chance to score 30 goals and make England pick him alongside Rooney in Euro 2016.
If you don't make the CL in 2015-16 but he has another great season, next summer big transfer saga and maybe he stays, maybe he goes.
Levy is smart, and won't sell until he gets both a few more productive years out of Kane AND a massive fee, unless Kane demands he just take the massive fee. But the last player to turn down CL moves I can think of is Matt Le Tissier. It just doesn't happen.
I would say summer of 2018 is the absolute end of the road and should be your shining future hope, barring Spurs cracking the top 4 again. That's 3 more seasons. Kane would be 25 and desperate to play in the CL and he'd have 2 years left on his deal, so it's the last summer Levy could get a massive fee for him.
I don't know about "likely", but the weakest of the current top 4 is United. Yes, you have the buffer of a very large income and can spend lots, but are faced with the immediate and/or not-too-distant prospect of having to replace several players, including de Gea, Carrick, RvP, Falcao and Rooney. And yes, you made it back into the top this season, but that was with the benefit of having to play very few games compared to the likes of Liverpool and Spurs.
Oh no, just not him!
None of this accurate.
I agree that most would say no. But things can change. And one change on the horizon is the new Spurs stadium complex, which will increase our income by a fair whack from a variety of sources, including sponsorships, and enable us to compete financially on a more even keel.
We have one of the youngest squads in the league. Yes, a few key personnel may need replacing over the next few years (heaven knows what we'll do without Falcao and RvP after the season they've had...) but that's prevalent in all clubs around us also.
What an odd reason to give for Spurs taking our place in the top 4.
What an odd reason to give for Spurs taking our place in the top 4.
So next year is your year, eh?
There's no prospect of him being sold this summer; frankly he's not ready to be first choice striker at a club going for the title, Spurs is good for him right now. He needs game time, Spurs are well managed and play decent football.
If I was him I wouldn't go anywhere for 3 years, assuming he's on a decent wage
If I was him I wouldn't go anywhere for 3 years, assuming he's on a decent wage
I think he'll stay until at least the new stadium is finished, because I think he'll want to play for Spurs in that stadium in 2018-19.
No mention of Man City's obvious & impending re-building program ?
I can't see him leaving Spurs at all, ever. Just doesn't seem the type. I don't think money is going to sway him.
Sure, they have to re-build too, but are starting from a higher base.
If he'll have more seasons like this one (and I'm pretty sceptical about it) then I don't think that his ambitions will be fighting for 5th/6th in EPL and being knocked out by some Spanish team in EL.
He loves Spurs sooo much he's gonna fanny about in a u21 tournament against his manager's advice.
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