Would you take Tevez back now?

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We had welbeck, he was the preferred playing striker. We should have let berba leave if we knew that welbeck-rooney is going to be our first choice strike pairing and get in a rotational striker. If not in the summer, then in january. Lying to him like that was wrong imo.

Tevez had earned his place, was a key part of our side which won the CL. Berba should have had to earn his place, not be automatically be first choice. And its not just the carling cup game, he would be kept out of the first team for long stretches of games while berba stank up the place.
Wasn't it Chicha that took Berba's place more than Welbeck? In either case, the point stands. You dont sell him till you're sure you can do without him. Is it unfair on berba, yes, but its the sensible thing to do. I dont think it was a lie flat out anyways. I doubt Sir Alex could have foreseen how things would go.

In an ideal world, you make him earn his place. But when you get a striker for 30mil, you give him the chances he needs. Just how things work. Tevez wasnt anything special anyways.
 

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Wasn't it Chicha that took Berba's place more than Welbeck? In either case, the point stands. You dont sell him till you're sure you can do without him. Is it unfair on berba, yes, but its the sensible thing to do. I dont think it was a lie flat out anyways. I doubt Sir Alex could have foreseen how things would go.

In an ideal world, you make him earn his place. But when you get a striker for 30mil, you give him the chances he needs. Just how things work. Tevez wasnt anything special anyways.
I think welbeck was our first choice that season, with hernandez being the first rotational choice. Berba was fourth in the pecking order from memory, which is why I feel we could have let him go.

Disagree there, hernandez had a much bigger impact than berba and had already displaced him by that point. SAF also planned to bring welbeck back after his season with sunderland, so obviously he already knew that berba was fourth choice. He kept him as insurance incase welbeck/hernandez flopped but we should have signed a younger striker(or someone like ings) rather than not cashing in on him and making false promises(or lying :p).

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/03/20/teams-of-the-decade-3-manchester-united-2006-09/

Here you go, tevez was a key part of that team even if he didnt score the goals. For a player in his first season at the club, he had a good return while sacrificing his game to accomodate rooney and ronaldo.
 

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I think welbeck was our first choice that season, with hernandez being the first rotational choice. Berba was fourth in the pecking order from memory, which is why I feel we could have let him go.

Disagree there, hernandez had a much bigger impact than berba and had already displaced him by that point. SAF also planned to bring welbeck back after his season with sunderland, so obviously he already knew that berba was fourth choice. He kept him as insurance incase welbeck/hernandez flopped but we should have signed a younger striker(or someone like ings) rather than not cashing in on him and making false promises(or lying :p).

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/03/20/teams-of-the-decade-3-manchester-united-2006-09/

Here you go, tevez was a key part of that team even if he didnt score the goals. For a player in his first season at the club, he had a good return while sacrificing his game to accomodate rooney and ronaldo.
Me meory's shit. I recall chicha as the 1st choice to partner Rooney. Doesnt matter much though, both were untested. I can see why Sir Alex wouldnt want to let Berba go.

Tevez was important, I'm not denying that. But he wasnt a Rooney or a Ronaldo and once we got Berba, he was always going to get more chances than Tevez. Its just how it is, right or wrong. You give the new player chances to settle as he's in his 1st season. Especially someone with talent like Berba.
 

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Short answer is no. It's not been forgotten how he acted after he left us, even if he does feel he was mistreated the fact is that he acted like a twat afterwards. It was a dick move to go to City clearly.

Taking that stuff out of the equation though, he had a good season for Juventus sure. He's still getting on in age and not an investment for the future. I'm not convinced he'd show the same form in the Premier League now either. Plus you always have to consider his possibly antics. We all remember what he did to City.
 

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Finished? Bit extreme, he's far from finished and is in the best shape of his career. The Italian League isn't the best but it isn't some kickabout with your mates. He's one of the main reasons Juventus reached the CL final for goodness sake :lol:

And its not like he hasn't scored the same amount of goals in England before.
I saw very little of him this season to be honest but what I saw of him in the Champions League he was poor. I'm not so sure he can cut it at the very top any more which is why making the move back to Argentina makes sense. He'll be great over there and retire a legend.
 

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You make it sound likes they're criminals.

One is a transitioning vampire, and the other is a complete fool. Nothing more, nothing less.

We all make mistakes, as human beings, some worse than others; however, as far as I'm aware both have done nothing more than complete acts of stupidity.

Have you never done anything stupid?
I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly, but I seem to recall one of them had some kind of problem with racism? Never mind, that's just a little "mistake". the diving, biting, feigning injury, to levels never seen before is just part of the game too. Not to mention playing for our hated rivals.

Tevez, only disrespected us and Fergie, went to our biggest rivals and generally acted an utter kent.

People make mistakes, but they generally don't get to make them at the same place again!
 

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I saw very little of him this season to be honest but what I saw of him in the Champions League he was poor. I'm not so sure he can cut it at the very top any more which is why making the move back to Argentina makes sense. He'll be great over there and retire a legend.
You probably should have seen more of him.

7 goals in the champions league. Played at times deeper in the bigger games too. His form was fine, his overall play was very good, and has also been called back up for Argentina. So the finished remark is ridiculous.
 

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If he came back it would all be forgotten about the first time he rattled the net for us and that's just the way football rocks these days.

I'd have him back, no bother. He's a grafter, a finisher and the type of player we should never say no to.
Not for me. He's burned his bridges and I wouldn't approve at all. Himself and Suarez were abused from the stands with very good reason.

On occasion you can forgive a player for leaving the club with dignity and respect. This is not one of those occasions, not by a long shot.
 

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I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly, but I seem to recall one of them had some kind of problem with racism? Never mind, that's just a little "mistake". the diving, biting, feigning injury, to levels never seen before is just part of the game too. Not to mention playing for our hated rivals.

Tevez, only disrespected us and Fergie, went to our biggest rivals and generally acted an utter kent.

People make mistakes, but they generally don't get to make them at the same place again!
Racism, yes, it's quite prevalent all over the world, I'll tell you that. Won't ever stop. Suarez was completely out of order for saying the things he said.

Diving, feigning injuries? Every footballer is guilty of that.

As for Tevez, we did disrespect him first. Why on earth would he have put us first when choosing his next club?

I'd say Suarez is slightly worse than Tevez with regards to his behaviour, however, there are probably reasons as to why he acts the way he does. He seems fine since his move to Barcelona. Tevez, on the other hand, did very little wrong. He left for City because he felt disrespected by us and the insult to Fergie was quite simply a joke gone wrong.
 

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Probably the signing I was most excited about since I became a transfer muppet, in fact not many have come close since (perhaps Falcao).

Loved him when he was here, probably more so than Ronaldo, can remember being at one game (v Derby?) where the crowd were actually chanting for him to take a pen instead of Ronny.

Went a bit shit, but think that was more to do with Fergie and Gill and their insistence (rightly or wrongly) not to bend too far for agents. Gutted when he went to City and the whole Fergie sign was stupid (I actually found the Neville boot licker comment, funny and probably true!).

Would I take him back? Yes. I think he is just want we need, he can run for a start. Just watch the role he plays in the CL final when Drogba gets sent off... Class.

It isn't going to happen though.
 

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I don't know if we could forgive him his bizarre behaviour. Probably not. But imo we should never have got rid of him. He was great for United.

I think that RIP Fergie sign was more about Fergie as a winning manager than real death tho?
 

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Asking for Tevez back again is a bit like asking whether you would agree to being anal raped by your local Catholic priest again?
 

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Asking for Tevez back again is a bit like asking whether you would agree to being anal raped by your local Catholic priest again?
Basically, he's thick and more trouble than he's worth.

Still a shame though. It was sheer lunacy imo to constantly pick Berbatov over him. Tevez was always exciting.
 

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Basically, he's thick and more trouble than he's worth.

Still a shame though. It was sheer lunacy imo to constantly pick Berbatov over him. Tevez was always exciting.
Fergie only ever picked Berbaflop instead of Tevez because he knew Tevez was on a different level but he didn't want to look like a prized clueless David Moyes by picking a player on a free transfer over a player who cost a massive 30 million big ones
 

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Fergie only ever picked Berbaflop instead of Tevez because he knew Tevez was on a different level but he didn't want to look like a prized clueless David Moyes by picking a player on a free transfer over a player who cost a massive 30 million big ones
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Fergie only ever picked Berbaflop instead of Tevez because he knew Tevez was on a different level but he didn't want to look like a prized clueless David Moyes by picking a player on a free transfer over a player who cost a massive 30 million big ones
Wind up surely.
 

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When will people wake up and realize it's highly likely Tevez agreed to go to City very early in the 2008/09 season.

The arabs came in and wanted a statement signing, the only United player they could sign was Tevez.

Our offer was £25m and £120k wages.

Their was reportedly £40m+ and £200k+ wages so he was only ever going there no matter how much he was played that season (even though in reality he played 51 games that season, more than either Rooney or Berba)

Tevez knew he was going and Ferguson probably knew he was going, everything after that was most likely pantomime on both sides to save face.
 

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When will people wake up and realize it's highly likely Tevez agreed to go to City very early in the 2008/09 season.

The arabs came in and wanted a statement signing, the only United player they could sign was Tevez.

Our offer was £25m and £120k wages.

Their was reportedly £40m+ and £200k+ wages so he was only ever going there no matter how much he was played that season (even though in reality he played 51 games that season, more than either Rooney or Berba)

Tevez knew he was going and Ferguson probably knew he was going, everything after that was most likely pantomime on both sides to save face.

Without getting into all the speculation over the politics - Tevez was better for the team than Berbatov. Whether he was better for the club or not, is a different story.
 

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Without getting into all the speculation over the politics - Tevez was better for the team than Berbatov. Whether he was better for the club or not, is a different story.
Maybe mate i would probably agree with that actually, simply as a player yes he was.

But Berba was our record signing and it's likely Ferguson knew Tevez was off to city for most of the season. So it's easy to see why Berbatov started ahead of him in a lot of games.

It also always seems to be over looked that we played Rooney and/or Ronaldo up front in most of the big games that season. They probably more so than Berbatov kept Tevez out of the big games.
 

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Fergie only ever picked Berbaflop instead of Tevez because he knew Tevez was on a different level but he didn't want to look like a prized clueless David Moyes by picking a player on a free transfer over a player who cost a massive 30 million big ones
It probably shouldn't be forgotten that Tevez started hitting big goal tallies, AFTER leaving us.

He worked very hard, which made Berbatov's style grate from the off, but he was never as important as Rooney back then.

Also probably shouldn't be forgotten Berbatov arguably did more for us than Tevez anyway, being league top scorer that year Rooney was completely off the boil.
 

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It probably shouldn't be forgotten that Tevez started hitting big goal tallies, AFTER leaving us.

He worked very hard, which made Berbatov's style grate from the off, but he was never as important as Rooney back then.

Also probably shouldn't be forgotten Berbatov arguably did more for us than Tevez anyway, being league top scorer that year Rooney was completely off the boil.
No way. Berbatov finishing top scorer is a little misleading to his overall contribution. He only actually scored in 12 games in the league that season, he scored 5 in one game against Blackburn, Hattrick vs Liverpool which was fantastic and a hattrick against Birmingham.

Tevez never had a great record for us, but a lot of his goals were vital (Liverpool, Wigan, Lyon, Porto) He also scored the first penalty in the CL final as well as putting in some fantastic performances against Barcelona, Spurs (in the comeback win at OT) etc.
 
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It probably shouldn't be forgotten that Tevez started hitting big goal tallies, AFTER leaving us.

He worked very hard, which made Berbatov's style grate from the off, but he was never as important as Rooney back then.

Also probably shouldn't be forgotten Berbatov arguably did more for us than Tevez anyway, being league top scorer that year Rooney was completely off the boil.
No he didn't.

Also that season when Rooney was off the boil, why does everyone forget the final 3 months of the season when we saw possibly the best Wayne Rooney we have ever seen?
 

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There's absolutely no way I'd welcome Tevez back. Leaving the club is one thing. Being absolutely disrespectful after leaving is another. Pogba, for instance, has generally been fairly decent when speaking about the club, despite having chosen to leave. Tevez, on the other hand, has conducted himself with very little class. He's burned that particular bridge.
 

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Quality player, but I wouldn't want him back here. He burnt his bridges after he left.
 

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No he didn't.

Also that season when Rooney was off the boil, why does everyone forget the final 3 months of the season when we saw possibly the best Wayne Rooney we have ever seen?
It's very hard to remember the positives with Rooney that year.
 

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No, on so many levels. Primarily because the last thing we need is another 31 year old striker.
 
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