De Gea Contract Situation

[YzWayne]

I can't believe that the media has somehow got people thinking that this move is for his girlfriend and not footballing terms.

Sure, she probably plays a small factor. But it would be naive to suggest that him dumping her over the next few months would change anything with regards to his inevitable destination next season. It is, first and foremost, a move based on footballing reasons.

To play under the Greatest Coach of all times, Rafa?

 

[Sad Chris]

'Bending the knee', in Engish that would be something like Throwing in the towel.

I'd call it "Bend over", because ultimately that's what we'd be doing.

 

[Fully Fledged]

Play him our CL match and have him cup tied then see if Madrid want him.

I thought that but then thought that he plays in the one position where he could throw the game to make sure he can still to Spain.

I'm not saying that he would but would not want to take the risk.

Edit for phone

 

[Annihilate Now!]

I can't believe that the media has somehow got people thinking that this move is for his girlfriend and not footballing terms.

Sure, she probably plays a small factor. But it would be naive to suggest that him dumping her over the next few months would change anything with regards to his inevitable destination next season. It is, first and foremost, a move based on footballing reasons.

Moving so you can live with your (hot) girlfriend of however many years and who he probably intends to marry? And who lives in his hometown. Yeah it's all a tiny factor I bet.

It stuns me how people genuinely think that football is the be-all and end-all... there are things that are equally, if not more important in life you know.

 

[Lennon7]

I'd say the main reason is moving back to Spain, closely followed by being with Edurne. It's not like playing for Real is a life long dream of his, because he was with Atletico since he was very young. He just wants to play for a top team in Spain, probably, and Barca have Ter Stegan.

 

[Danny1982]

He's included in the champions league squad.

http://www.eurosport.com/football/p...champions-league-squad_sto4854496/story.shtml

 

[JustAFan]

Play him our CL match and have him cup tied then see if Madrid want him.

Unfortunately that all resets for the group stages. So he can play for us in the playoffs then for RM in the group stages

 

[caisenma]

Moving so you can live with your (hot) girlfriend of however many years and who he probably intends to marry? And who lives in his hometown. Yeah it's all a tiny factor I bet.

It stuns me how people genuinely think that football is the be-all and end-all... there are things that are equally, if not more important in life you know.

no kidding. as much as i detest real madrid, i can understand why he wants to go there. it'll probably be a mistake in football terms, but it's his life and he can do what we wants.

 

[Speak]

I think he'll see the move as ticking almost every box. I'd imagine that he sees Madrid as a bigger club, he gets to go back to his home city, he gets to be with his girlfriend.

About the only box not ticked is due to the fact he'd probably get higher wages at United.
But ultimately he'll see both his personal and professional needs as being better fulfilled in Madrid.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

I'd say the main reason is moving back to Spain, closely followed by being with Edurne. It's not like playing for Real is a life long dream of his, because he was with Atletico since he was very young. He just wants to play for a top team in Spain, probably, and Barca have Ter Stegan.

If the fecker wanted to go to Atletico, we could have worked a nice deal involving him and Oblak.

 

[R'hllor]

I don't know why people make it sounds as if De Gea was this keeper that no one knew had the talent except for Man United and a few believers. He was the hottest young keeper on the planet. When he as having that horrible season, almost every expert and sensible poster on here said that he'd come good because he had immense talent. Everyone kinda knew he'd succeed sooner or later (apart from some terrible experts/fans).

I'm just saying, we didn't really go out of our way to accommodate him. If anything, SAF would start Lindegaard ahead of him in some games (even thought the boss and all of use knew he's the more talented one)

Yea but some people might say things would not be the same if he joined Real back then instead of us.Maybe some are hurting a bit because,during his rough time at the start fans gave him 100% of support when he needed it(even that helps us too),you think those fans of circus would not throw him under the bus while waving their white underwear?

 

[Speak]

I don't know why people make it sounds as if De Gea was this keeper that no one knew had the talent except for Man United and a few believers. He was the hottest young keeper on the planet. When he as having that horrible season, almost every expert and sensible poster on here said that he'd come good because he had immense talent. Everyone kinda knew he'd succeed sooner or later (apart from some terrible experts/fans).

I'm just saying, we didn't really go out of our way to accommodate him. If anything, SAF would start Lindegaard ahead of him in some games (even thought the boss and all of use knew he's the more talented one)

Yep. Anyone would think he was being turned down by club after club, until United came in, sold a superior goalkeeper to make room, and gave him a chance.

And the whole 'stuck by him while he was dodgy' stuff.

Basically, we didn't bench/sell a goalkeeper who was already our best goalkeeper, had clear talent, and was only going to improve.
Am I missing something? Anyone would believe the club went against their own interests in order to 'stick by' de Gea.

 

[Will Absolute]

That is ridiculously illogical. Either sell a player or play him and lose him on a free. The club is a business- it will not forego millions of pounds simply out of spite, nor should it do so.

To allow a player to see out his contract and walk is to forgo millions in transfer fees. The policy I suggest concentrates a player's mind. He knows there's no free ride - if he screws the club, he himself loses a year of his career.

De Gea is not an innocent party - he's conspiring (if that's not too strong a word) with Real Madrid to deny United an appropriate transfer fee. He should be offered a simple choice - sign a one-year extension with a reasonable release clause, say £20M, or spend next season playing reserve football.

Such a policy functions 'pour decourager les autres.' It need only be implemented once.

 

[Treble]

To allow a player to see out his contract and walk is to forgo millions in transfer fees. The policy I suggest concentrates a player's mind. He knows there's no free ride - if he screws the club, he himself loses a year of his career.

De Gea is not an innocent party - he's conspiring (if that's not too strong a word) with Real Madrid to deny United an appropriate transfer fee. He should be offered a simple choice - sign a one-year extension with a reasonable release clause, say £20M, or spend next season playing reserve football.

Such a policy functions 'pour decourager les autres.' It need only be implemented once.

You'd struggle to find examples for such an approach to players at the highest club level. Guess why.

 

[Oneunited26]

To allow a player to see out his contract and walk is to forgo millions in transfer fees. The policy I suggest concentrates a player's mind. He knows there's no free ride - if he screws the club, he himself loses a year of his career.

De Gea is not an innocent party - he's conspiring (if that's not too strong a word) with Real Madrid to deny United an appropriate transfer fee. He should be offered a simple choice - sign a one-year extension with a reasonable release clause, say £20M, or spend next season playing reserve football.

Such a policy functions 'pour decourager les autres.' It need only be implemented once.

DDG has screwed united in terms of trying to get a decent transfer fee, and he is learning that he may want to jump off the bridge, but Madrid are not jumping with him. DDG should be really angry with Madrid, he should have known united are financially much better shape than 2011. Didnt he get that financial hint with united, the contract they were willing to offer him, and the type of transfer fees this club were paying. Hell he was playing with someone like di maria that cost the club 59 million, when united are paying these numbers there was not a chance united would let him go for lesser fees no matter the contract left on his

The only solution for DDG if he wants to leave, if the club wont budge, Madrid wont budge, he will have to buy out his contract

 

[clarkydaz]

DDG has screwed united in terms of trying to get a decent transfer fee, and he is learning that he may want to jump off the bridge, but Madrid are not jumping with him. DDG should be really angry with Madrid, he should have known united are financially much better shape than 2011. Didnt he get that financial hint with united, the contract they were willing to offer him, and the type of transfer fees this club were paying. Hell he was playing with someone like di maria that cost the club 59 million, when united are paying these numbers there was not a chance united would let him go for lesser fees no matter the contract left on his

The only solution for DDG if he wants to leave, if the club wont budge, Madrid wont budge, he will have to buy out his contract

don't think players could care less about the benefit of the clubs they leave behind

 

[Rich_H_1989]

Can't help but feel sometimes these rules are made up to screw us and benefit Real and Barca. I know that's not the case but we know we are not the most popular of countries with UEFA! Every other season if you play in the qualifiers that's it you are cup tied but this season it's not the case. The one time we really need that rule in place.

Mind you if Cilessen is our choice then that rule helps us as we thought he was going to be cup tied.

The club now have an incredibly tough decision to make. Do we sell him given that we can't cup tie him?

 

[Fully Fledged]

Unfortunately that all resets for the group stages. So he can play for us in the playoffs then for RM in the group stages

Not if we go through it doesn't.

 

[buckooo1978]

Unfortunately that all resets for the group stages. So he can play for us in the playoffs then for RM in the group stages

Only if we lost the qualifier

 

[carvajal]

http://as.com/encuestas/2015/08/11/1439289752.html
According to a poll in As 85% of madridistas prefer to wait a year to buy De Gea for free. Now would be great if they use those 25m€ to buy someone else

 

[Rich_H_1989]

That's certainly not the impression I get from the Sky Sports article on him:

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...d-name-david-de-gea-in-champions-league-squad

That there says that the cup tie rule does not apply to qualifiers. So that me says regardless of our result he won't be cup tied.

 

[Oneunited26]

don't think players could care less about the benefit of the clubs they leave behind

Well to be fair to ronaldo, despite the garbage he put the club through in 2008, atleast he signed a new contract so the club could command a big fee, so some players do care about what their club does get should they decide to move on to another club

 

[Walrus]

Probably repeating what has already been said, but my 2c are;

Madrid are deliberately only offering lowball amounts because they would actually rather just get him for free next summer, and De Gea knows this. They are trying to offer just enough that we wont accept, but that De Gea can feel aggrieved that we are keeping him against his will.

De Gea at this point is pretty happy to sit here for another year and pocket an extra signing on fee next summer - and the two of them (DDG and Real) will be all too happy to turn around and say that we could have accepted their offer last (this) summer if we didnt want to lose him on a free.

The club were probably open to selling De Gea if we got a decent fee for him, but as things stand Ed is now a bit annoyed by Madrids behaviour and is basically wanting to play hardball with them, and who can blame him?

 

[Smores]

Yea but some people might say things would not be the same if he joined Real back then instead of us.Maybe some are hurting a bit because,during his rough time at the start fans gave him 100% of support when he needed it(even that helps us too),you think those fans of circus would not throw him under the bus while waving their white underwear?

What like we did with Fellaini, Young, Fletcher?

He got such support from the fans because they knew his talent, if he hadn't he would have been heavily criticised like plenty of others have.

It's taken two parties to run down his contract at the end of the day. We could have started the process of selling him last season but obviously the club decided rightly we'd be best served with him despite the reduced fee.

 

[Jazz]

http://as.com/encuestas/2015/08/11/1439289752.html
According to a poll in As 85% of madridistas prefer to wait a year to buy De Gea for free. Now would be great if they use those 25m€ to buy someone else

And he still wants to go to Madrid

 

[langster]

http://as.com/encuestas/2015/08/11/1439289752.html
According to a poll in As 85% of madridistas prefer to wait a year to buy De Gea for free. Now would be great if they use those 25m€ to buy someone else

And in that year, David grows some balls and get's rid of his Mrs, or she really can't stand another year in England, so she does one. Obviously he is heartbroken so David then puts his focus back in to football and again produces many man of the match performances that we saw last year. His team mates and close relationships with Mata and Herrera help him through and his manager supports him throughout it all. Slowly David sorts his head out and then falls back in love with the club.

It's new years eve, Dave is out with the entire squad celebrating United being top of the Premiership for the New Year, when suddenly this absolutely beautiful Mancunian girl catches his eye and he instantly falls head over heels. The next morning he looks over at her in bed next to him and he cries. He can't believe how stupid he had been and how close he was to making a huge mistake. He picks up the phone and demands Mendes goes and sucks a squirrel's balls and tells him to phone Madrid and tell that snakey feck Perez to do the same. He then phones big Ed and LvG on a conference call and declares his undying love for the best football club in the whole wide world and demands to sign a new 10 year contract. He celebrates with a cold can of Carlsberg Export and a foamy tit wank with his new lady. He then tweets @Vato and calls him a cnut.

Probably.

 

[Oneunited26]

Probably repeating what has already been said, but my 2c are;

Madrid are deliberately only offering lowball amounts because they would actually rather just get him for free next summer, and De Gea knows this. They are trying to offer just enough that we wont accept, but that De Gea can feel aggrieved that we are keeping him against his will.

De Gea at this point is pretty happy to sit here for another year and pocket an extra signing on fee next summer - and the two of them (DDG and Real) will be all too happy to turn around and say that we could have accepted their offer last (this) summer if we didnt want to lose him on a free.

The club were probably open to selling De Gea if we got a decent fee for him, but as things stand Ed is now a bit annoyed by Madrids behaviour and is basically wanting to play hardball with them, and who can blame him?

Well factoring the ronaldo sale for such a bargain for Madrid, their behavior with lowballing us with DDG, things have snapped from our end. I can see our relationship with Madrid being spurs united mark 2, do not think they will get transfers off us quiet so easy. Defiantly woodward has not forgot how easy Madrid got ronaldo for a fee 40 million lower than we should have got for him

 

[Jazz]

Think we should consider putting a rumour out there that we're considering selling him to Barca

 

[AltiUn]

http://as.com/encuestas/2015/08/11/1439289752.html
According to a poll in As 85% of madridistas prefer to wait a year to buy De Gea for free. Now would be great if they use those 25m€ to buy someone else

You make it very, very easy to prefer Barca and Atletico to Real.

 

[Jazz]

And in that year, David grows some balls and get's rid of his Mrs, or she really can't stand another year in England, so she does one. Obviously he is heartbroken so David then puts his focus back in to football and again produces many man of the match performances that we saw last year. His team mates and close relationships with Mata and Herrera help him through and his manager supports him throughout it all. Slowly David sorts his head out and then falls back in love with the club.

It's new years eve, Dave is out with the entire squad celebrating United being top of the Premiership for the New Year, when suddenly this absolutely beautiful Mancunian girl catches his eye and he instantly falls head over heels. The next morning he looks over at her in bed next to him and he cries. He can't believe how stupid he had been and how close he was to making a huge mistake. He picks up the phone and demands Mendes goes and sucks a squirrel's balls and tells him to phone Madrid and tell that snakey feck Perez to do the same. He then phones big Ed and LvG on a conference call and declares his undying love for the best football club in the whole wide world and demands to sign a new 10 year contract. He celebrates with a cold can of Carlsberg Export and a foamy tit wank with his new lady. He then tweets @Vato and calls him a cnut.

Probably.

 

[carvajal]

And in that year, David grows some balls and get's rid of his Mrs, or she really can't stand another year in England, so she does one. Obviously he is heartbroken so David then puts his focus back in to football and again produces many man of the match performances that we saw last year. His team mates and close relationships with Mata and Herrera help him through and his manager supports him throughout it all. Slowly David sorts his head out and then falls back in love with the club.

It's new years eve, Dave is out with the entire squad celebrating United being top of the Premiership for the New Year, when suddenly this absolutely beautiful Mancunian girl catches his eye and he instantly falls head over heels. The next morning he looks over at her in bed next to him and he cries. He can't believe how stupid he had been and how close he was to making a huge mistake. He picks up the phone and demands Mendes goes and sucks a squirrel's balls and tells him to phone Madrid and tell that snakey feck Perez to do the same. He then phones big Ed and LvG on a conference call and declares his undying love for the best football club in the whole wide world and demands to sign a new 10 year contract. He celebrates with a cold can of Carlsberg Export and a foamy tit wank with his new lady. He then tweets @Vato and calls him a cnut.

Probably.

And then you wake up to go to work , I think that people here overestimate his relationship with Mata and Herrera.If he stays this year will be a good professional,trying to get a place in Euro and helping United to challenge for P.L.25m€ is usually the annual benefit of Madrid,an small but important amount.It's nice to see Mendes failing sometimes

 

[Rich_H_1989]

And in that year, David grows some balls and get's rid of his Mrs, or she really can't stand another year in England, so she does one. Obviously he is heartbroken so David then puts his focus back in to football and again produces many man of the match performances that we saw last year. His team mates and close relationships with Mata and Herrera help him through and his manager supports him throughout it all. Slowly David sorts his head out and then falls back in love with the club.

It's new years eve, Dave is out with the entire squad celebrating United being top of the Premiership for the New Year, when suddenly this absolutely beautiful Mancunian girl catches his eye and he instantly falls head over heels. The next morning he looks over at her in bed next to him and he cries. He can't believe how stupid he had been and how close he was to making a huge mistake. He picks up the phone and demands Mendes goes and sucks a squirrel's balls and tells him to phone Madrid and tell that snakey feck Perez to do the same. He then phones big Ed and LvG on a conference call and declares his undying love for the best football club in the whole wide world and demands to sign a new 10 year contract. He celebrates with a cold can of Carlsberg Export and a foamy tit wank with his new lady. He then tweets @Vato and calls him a cnut.

Probably.

Funny you should mention Carlsberg actually... Because if Carlsberg did dreams, they'd probably come and steal yours for all united fans ! Though given they once sponsored Liverpool they'd be more likely to help his transfer to Real happen .

Anyway, going to be gutted when the little Lama leaves. We've seen him grow so much since he joined the club and he has to appreciate all the support we've given him? We've made him the keeper he is and Real are going to get one of the top 3 keepers in the world.

 

[unchanged_lineup]

And in that year, David grows some balls and get's rid of his Mrs, or she really can't stand another year in England, so she does one. Obviously he is heartbroken so David then puts his focus back in to football and again produces many man of the match performances that we saw last year. His team mates and close relationships with Mata and Herrera help him through and his manager supports him throughout it all. Slowly David sorts his head out and then falls back in love with the club.

It's new years eve, Dave is out with the entire squad celebrating United being top of the Premiership for the New Year, when suddenly this absolutely beautiful Mancunian girl catches his eye and he instantly falls head over heels. The next morning he looks over at her in bed next to him and he cries. He can't believe how stupid he had been and how close he was to making a huge mistake. He picks up the phone and demands Mendes goes and sucks a squirrel's balls and tells him to phone Madrid and tell that snakey feck Perez to do the same. He then phones big Ed and LvG on a conference call and declares his undying love for the best football club in the whole wide world and demands to sign a new 10 year contract. He celebrates with a cold can of Carlsberg Export and a foamy tit wank with his new lady. He then tweets @Vato and calls him a cnut.

Probably.

Is there a vote for post of the year? Post of the decade if it comes true.

 

[carvajal]

You make it very, very easy to prefer Barca and Atletico to Real.

Why?

 

[Jazz]

And then you wake up to go to work , I think that people here overestimate his relationship with Mata and Herrera.If he stays this year will be a good professional,trying to get a place in Euro and helping United to challenge for P.L.25m€ is usually the annual benefit of Madrid,an small but important amount.It's nice to see Mendes failing sometimes

100% agree with this

 

[AltiUn]

Why?

Your smugness

 

[Mark_GrumpyLion]

And in that year, David grows some balls and get's rid of his Mrs, or she really can't stand another year in England, so she does one. Obviously he is heartbroken so David then puts his focus back in to football and again produces many man of the match performances that we saw last year. His team mates and close relationships with Mata and Herrera help him through and his manager supports him throughout it all. Slowly David sorts his head out and then falls back in love with the club.

It's new years eve, Dave is out with the entire squad celebrating United being top of the Premiership for the New Year, when suddenly this absolutely beautiful Mancunian girl catches his eye and he instantly falls head over heels. The next morning he looks over at her in bed next to him and he cries. He can't believe how stupid he had been and how close he was to making a huge mistake. He picks up the phone and demands Mendes goes and sucks a squirrel's balls and tells him to phone Madrid and tell that snakey feck Perez to do the same. He then phones big Ed and LvG on a conference call and declares his undying love for the best football club in the whole wide world and demands to sign a new 10 year contract. He celebrates with a cold can of Carlsberg Export and a foamy tit wank with his new lady. He then tweets @Vato and calls him a cnut.

Probably.

A work of art!

 

[carvajal]

Your smugness

is really not my intention.Probably other fans in Uk think the same about United.Madrid didn't get so good deals lately,and despite the income they can't afford to spend so easily 45m€,especially with players that don't produce advert benefits.You should be happy,this is what United fans wanted all the summer(culés are so smug or more,at least in Spain)

 

[antsmithmk]

That post ^ lol :-)

 

[ThanksBoss26]

Not sure on the source but...

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