De Gea Contract Situation

[clarkydaz]

Clearly you don't, because once a legally binding contract is up, you are free to do whatever you want.

DDG hasn't made the decision he wouldn't play (as far as we know). LVG decided he wasn't up to it.

What sense of entitlement has he shown might I ask?

so he has one more year to go till his contract expires, well done

 

[carvajal]

Not sure, you'll have to ask @carvajal this, he's the one living in Spain and following what's going on. I don't think fans are too bothered about this, I know I'm not at least.

I am not either.I think most of fans just want to see the club treating the players in a decent way,no more Iker situations.Keylor is not the best but he deserves a chance.It's what all the polls showed

 

[Sheldon69]

Imagine the scenes if he signs a new contract.

Woodward will, deservedly, be called a genius.

Yes and can we errect a stage inside old Trafford to announce it and have LVG and big dave run out hand in hand , then we all let balloons off with pictures of Perez on them, into the Manchester sky !

 

[Guy]

Can't see him signing a new contract. He'd have done it by now if he wanted one.

The difference between now and 2014 is that this coming season has the possibility of him being benched for the majority of it. Now the club may decide that this is not the way they want to do things, but this possibility remains.

There are other reports that he is annoyed at Real as it is now becoming widely accepted that they were the party most at fault for the transfer's collapse. These could be factors that weren't present before.

 

[Tincanalley]

Yes, he does seem a bit...slow. But what's the point of hiring Moriarty as your agent if you're not going to listen to him anyway?

Nice lad, good keeper, but 16 planks comes to mind. Or maybe Father Dougal. Small club. Far away. Big club. Under your fecking nose, mate.

 

[RonaldoVII]

The difference between now and 2014 is that this coming season has the possibility of him being benched for the majority of it. Now the club may decide that this is not the way they want to do things, but this possibility remains.

There are other reports that he is annoyed at Real as it is now becoming widely accepted that they were the party most at fault for the transfer's collapse. These could be factors that weren't present before.

I'm sure the club will play him whether he signs a new deal or not. All summer we thought our best outcome was him going on a free next summer. At worst, if the club don't play him we'll be spiting ourselves and he'll go in January, but I very much doubt that'll happen.

 

[Name Changed]

Yep..... and your point is?

My point is that he needs to play over Romero, no matter what.

 

[Blackwidow]

About the de Gea - situation. The German media remembers that Figo was bought from Real out of his contract and Perez won his first election with this buy just when van Gaal was president...

And that Perez and Real were high bidding on Ribery in 2009 when van Gaal was Bayern coach and he and Hoeneß did not let him go even for a very high sum...

 

[Name Changed]

That depends on Louis van Gaal who is unpredictable, De Gea is a professional. We also have Victor Valdes who wants to reportedly make up with the manager, he also wants to be going to the Euros.

As for checking the contract with detail, you can't blame the lawyers for being cautious!

If Valdes wants to be involved and make up with LVG, he should be given the opportunity. There's more to that story as it is anyway. He's also way better than Romero, in my opinion.

 

[RDCR07]

Now that the window has closed, LVG has to get this behind him and start playing De Gea. We are in danger of dropping unnecessary points with Romero in goal. Just start playing him, after all he has done brilliantly for us and Im sure even he is leaving at the end of the season, he will still give it his best.

 

[Browniee]

Now that the window has closed, LVG has to get this behind him and start playing De Gea. We are in danger of dropping unnecessary points with Romero in goal. Just start playing him, after all he has done brilliantly for us and Im sure even he is leaving at the end of the season, he will still give it his best.

Not the best game to throw him back in is it? Liverpool at home, he drops a clanger, he, LVG, United will get torn a feckig new one for weeks and weeks.

 

[RDCR07]

Not the best game to throw him back in is it? Liverpool at home, he drops a clanger, he, LVG, United will get torn a feckig new one for weeks and weeks.

I would rather take a chance with De Gea than with Romero. How confident are you with romero in goal for us? I certainly am not.

 

[K2K]

Not the best game to throw him back in is it? Liverpool at home, he drops a clanger, he, LVG, United will get torn a feckig new one for weeks and weeks.

If the manager and club can get behind him , there is no worries really..The English press are like chickens really, they forget so quickly and change tune rather quickly..If he has a round of great games after that they will be proclaiming him as a messiah and the headlines will be "What will United do next season without DDG

 

[BAMSOLA]

My point is that he needs to play over Romero, no matter what.

My point is if ability alone was the only factor he would have been already therefore pointing out the gulf in class between the two is irrelevant.

 

[clarkydaz]

if he walks out against Liverpool he will get applause and support, the one game you cant be bickering at the players. he knows whats needed in a game like that, Romero was ruffled away at Swansea

 

[RedStarUnited]

1. Are we stubborn enough not to play him if he doesn't want to sign an extension?
2. Is he willing to risk Madrid not coming back for him if he signs an extension?
3. If he (Mendes) asked us to, Are we willing to set a 'fair price' for him so that he can go to Madrid next summer?
4. If we do offer him a new contract with an exit clause, will his salary be as the offer before this summer considering the fact that we will be pretty much resigned to him leaving?

Those are the questions I'm guessing everyone involved in any of the negotiation deal will be thinking about...

 

[caid]

I would rather take a chance with De Gea than with Romero. How confident are you with romero in goal for us? I certainly am not.

I know he let a soft goal in on sunday but hes mostly been good. People are exaggerating quite a bit with Romero
(de gea is better obviously but hes better than 99% of the keepers out there)

 

[mu77]

sign him to a new deal with a get out of united card with a reasonably price. he doesn't want to be here but needs to play. 30m plus another real player with a price equal to that other keeper we won't want by then.

 

[jojojo]

On the questions about the Spanish media. The general idea I'm hearing is that Perez shouldn't behave like that with another big club. That it was a miscalculation based on over-confidence to do a deal with DdG and then not follow through with United. In the end it was all very undignified and Perez and Real Madrid are very strong on their idea of dignity.

Now throw in the fact that AS and its allies don't like Perez, there's not much sympathy for the Madrid board (or United) and a lot of sympathy for De Gea and Navas.

Whoever asked about Pedrerol, he was just a serious TV/radio/print football journalist until a few years ago. But then he successfully set up a midnight football gossip show that built up a **** following - it's like MNF meets Jerry Springer in tone and I admit when I'm in the mood it's compulsive trainwreck like viewing. He also has a daily sports news program on lunchtime TV

When he talks (as Pedrerol doing an editorial to camera), he's telling what he thinks is the truth. He certainly has good contacts, agents/managers and some club insiders. When he talks about Real Madrid he's probably been talking to people who do know the story firsthand - but of course, they may well have their own agendas to push.

 

[Natener]

Anyone else get the impression David is a bit thick?

Donut fiasco should have answered that question. I still think he's a nice bloke all things considered and hope he signs a new contract all things considered.

 

[Ixion]

I know he let a soft goal in on sunday but hes mostly been good. People are exaggerating quite a bit with Romero
(de gea is better obviously but hes better than 99% of the keepers out there)

Romero has been very lucky he's had nothing to do but he's played enough dodgy passes and shown he's slow to get down that he isn't up to being our number one. No way will Van Gaal persist with him.

 

[Lynk]

3:30


Sid Lowe discusses what went wrong with the Madrid deal and pretty much agrees that the blame lies solely with Madrid.

 

[m1tch]

A third of people think he'll sign a new deal and stay beyond next summer?!!

 

[carvajal]

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[Striker10]

The sun were the ones who say we were after Neymar ....lol

 

[Spoony]

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What does the article say?

 

[Rado_N]

The Sun don't know shit.

 

[carvajal]

What does the article say?

I don´t know, is the cover for tomorrow

 

[CassiusClaymore]

I sometimes wonder if they (The Sun) just come up with a 'witty' headline first and then fabricate the stories to fit it.

In fact yes they do do that don't they.

 

[Vato]

Wait.. hang on.. how much did United cough up for Martial?

 

[Striker10]

That includes bonuses should he become worldclass and meet certain clauses. They're completely manipulative. United won't be concerned if they have to pay the money since he would be worth far more.

 

[Cheesy]

Wait.. hang on.. how much did United cough up for Martial?

Figures seem to be all over the place. From what I've heard, the most consistent price is a £36m transfer fee, but presumably a lot of the even more absurd figures being thrown around involve bonuses, clauses, and potentially his wages over the course of the contract too (at least that'd be for the £80m figure, surely).

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

Wait.. hang on.. how much did United cough up for Martial?

£22 million up front + £3.5 million for the next four years, + some crazy top scorer, Ballon d'or clauses.....what I read anyway.

 

[MrSingh2002]

Below I've pasted an article from Marca "Real Madrids mouthpiece". I read the website on pretty much a daily basis and the below article is blatantly one that's come from the club itself as propaganda. Looks like Madrid purposely pulled out of the deal while making it look as though it failed somehow.



Real MadridandManchester United, the game's two richest clubs, both with an abundant history of big-money signings, failed farcically to finalise a deal which would have seenDavid de Geajoin the La Liga giants andKeylor Navashead toOld Trafford.

Apparently,time and bureaucracy led to De Gea's transfer falling through, all amid astonishment and a string of choice words aimed at Manchester United and Real Madrid.There can be no doubt that the two clubs have tarnished their reputation in the eyes of the greater footballing world.

In a nutshell, Real Madrid appear to have got what they finally wanted, whilst the outcome has definitely done Manchester United no harm at all.

Signing De Gea has looked less and less enticing for Real Madrid over the past few weeks, thus increasing the chances of him staying in the Premier League.

Then Keylor Navas served up a masterclass in Real Madrid's home game against Betis. He played as though his life depended on it and the Bernabéu faithful hailed him like a hero. That night, the fans made it clear they were against signing De Gea and letting Keylor Navas leave. On top of that,Romeroput in a poor performance in United's away defeat toSwansea.

A day later, Keylor Navas was still at Real Madrid and David de Gea in England. The young Spanish keeper is the stand-out victim of this summer's transfer saga. He is now set to be the first-choice keeper at a club which he no longer wants to play for, whilst Navas will get to play in goal where he always wanted to.Real Madrid fans will get the keeper they apparently wanted and Manchester United will breathe a sigh of relief now that De Gea can take over from Romero.



Read more:Real Madrid: De Gea falls victim to ridiculously convenient outcome - MARCA.com (English version)

 

[Vato]

Ah, ok I see. Because I remember the majority calling us crazy to splash about the same amount on James. If he turns out as good a signing though...

 

[imperi]

In the end it is quite simple, how much does he want to play the EC? If he thinks, meeeh feck United I'll have myself a long extended holiday in Madrid and cash in next season. It may not be very likely, but still a possibility if he really believes we shattered his dreams and he is here against his will.

If I was in charge I'd say extent (may with a fee release clause) or individual trainings and no time on the field. Just keep Romero there, and in the case it really all goes south you could throw David in.

 

[Vato]

£22 million up front + £3.5 million for the next four years, + some crazy top scorer, Ballon d'or clauses.....what I read anyway.

That's wages I presume? That's not so bad then.

 

[Cheesy]

In the end it is quite simple, how much does he want to play the EC? If he thinks, meeeh feck United I'll have myself a long extended holiday in Madrid and cash in next season. It may not be very likely, but still a possibility if he really believes we shattered his dreams and he is here against his will.

If I was in charge I'd say extent (may with a fee release clause) or individual trainings and no time on the field. Just keep Romero there, and in the case it really all goes south you could throw David in.

Think you've quoted the wrong person there mate. My post was in response to Martial's fee.

 

[Striker10]

Real MadridandManchester United, the game's two richest clubs, both with an abundant history of big-money signings, failed farcically to finalise a deal which would have seenDavid de Geajoin the La Liga giants andKeylor Navashead toOld Trafford.

Apparently,time and bureaucracy led to De Gea's transfer falling through, all amid astonishment and a string of choice words aimed at Manchester United and Real Madrid.There can be no doubt that the two clubs have tarnished their reputation in the eyes of the greater footballing world.

In a nutshell, Real Madrid appear to have got what they finally wanted, whilst the outcome has definitely done Manchester United no harm at all.

Signing De Gea has looked less and less enticing for Real Madrid over the past few weeks, thus increasing the chances of him staying in the Premier League.

Then Keylor Navas served up a masterclass in Real Madrid's home game against Betis. He played as though his life depended on it and the Bernabéu faithful hailed him like a hero. That night, the fans made it clear they were against signing De Gea and letting Keylor Navas leave. On top of that,Romeroput in a poor performance in United's away defeat toSwansea.

A day later, Keylor Navas was still at Real Madrid and David de Gea in England. The young Spanish keeper is the stand-out victim of this summer's transfer saga. He is now set to be the first-choice keeper at a club which he no longer wants to play for, whilst Navas will get to play in goal where he always wanted to.Real Madrid fans will get the keeper they apparently wanted and Manchester United will breathe a sigh of relief now that De Gea can take over from Romero.



Read more:Real Madrid: De Gea falls victim to ridiculously convenient outcome - MARCA.com (English version)[/QUOTE]

I love how they say De Gea don't want to play for us and yet Navas seems happy as Larry. Needlessly petty.

 

[imperi]

Think you've quoted the wrong person there mate. My post was in response to Martial's fee.

Yeah indeed, that did not make sense