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Do you want LVG sacked?


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I think personally, we've already told him. He might be disappointed - it's hard to say but he'll pick up if we win the FA Cup and get in the top 4. We could be wrong lol but it just makes a lot of sense. It would be an awful risk to not hire Jose at this moment in time. There should be a great improvement in the top teams next season.

Me too. I think the people within the club like and respect Van Gaal, namely Woodward. I find it hard to believe that we're stringing him along like a fool, with him completely unaware of our supposed negotiations with Mourinho.

Van Gaal is many things but stupid he isn't. He's been in the management game for nearly three decades and knows how this works.

That people are unable to enjoy a cup semi-final victory for fear of him getting another year here is barmy if not sad.
 
Yep. He got the key decisions right and as a result we won.
Can't complain about a win.
The problem is that a lot of fans have already decided that they want LVG out, so even when he wins (and we've been winning a lot lately), fans will look for the negatives. Its quite normal for this to happen.

Don't think fans should be focusing their energy to find faults in everything. As stated before, he will be gone for reasons well discussed multiple times. I just find it tedious to keep on finding little things to moan about, sometimes forcibly where there is none which makes it hilarious most of the times. It's not as if people are going to be executed if LVG does something right for a change.
 
On matchwinner Anthony Martial
"He could have scored in the first half when he was in the same situation, so I told him at half-time to shoot low into the corner – and he did that!"

Another one of those "the player scored or did this and that because of my advice" post match comments :lol:
 
Best case scenario is a nice little FA cup to keep his record of winning trophies at every club he's managed, send him off with that to soothe his ego, and hopefully he can add Martial, Rashford and Fosu-mensa to his list of stars discovered along with Muller, Xavi and Iniesta.

All in all a decent end to an impressive career.
 
Ok that is understandable but United just won an important match. Can you not be happy that the team you support won? would you want United to lose so LVG is kicked out?

United were quite good and that needs to be appreciated.

Yeah of course you can. It doesn't really have to be one or the other either though. I'd love us to win the FA Cup, but I'm also slightly worried it'll save his job and it'll be another season of struggling for fourth place.
 
Van Gaal knows fully well what is going on. He'll (attempt to) win the FA Cup and walk off into the sunset on the back of a trophy. That he's blissfully unaware of his position at the club, convinced of carrying out his third year here next season, is a theory I'll never buy into.

He gave up months ago.
While that could be the case, those tweets are incredibly misleading, @GifLord put the video up earlier of the post match press conference and it's really nothing more than Van Gaal being tired of having to answer questions about his future.
 
If we win the FA cup, he leaves on a high.

-Wins a cup
-Wins the first cup post Fergie
-Can say he brought through the youth players

All true, but after today's performance its awful to think of bringing Maureen in. He will dismantle all the good.
 
Best case scenario is a nice little FA cup to keep his record of winning trophies at every club he's managed, send him off with that to soothe his ego, and hopefully he can add Martial, Rashford and Fosu-mensa to his list of stars discovered along with Muller, Xavi and Iniesta.

All in all a decent end to an impressive career.

Um, to say he 'discovered' those players is giving him a bit too much credit don't you think?
 
On matchwinner Anthony Martial
"He could have scored in the first half when he was in the same situation, so I told him at half-time to shoot low into the corner – and he did that!"

Another one of those "the player scored or did this and that because of my advice" post match comments :lol:

He laughed when he said that though ;) So if you watch it, he's maybe being tongue in cheek
 
Don't think fans should be focusing their energy to find faults in everything. As stated before, he will be gone for reasons well discussed multiple times. I just find it tedious to keep on finding little things to moan about, sometimes forcibly where there is none which makes it hilarious most of the times. It's not as if people are going to be executed if LVG does something right for a change.

It's not so much that it's just that after every victory the van Gaal apologists usually come out with his "see, he ain't too bad" rhetoric and try to justify his overall bad performance. This guy is so slippery it's untrue.

Edit: See post above for example...
 
He didn't react even if the goal was coming since the second half kick off. TFM sub was wierd and we should have won this with ease but he still keeps his job.. He needs to win this and get the feck out.
 
Any player aged under 22 in our first 11.

Nope, the majority of them were already at the club and had to be used because of his poor squad management during last summer.

Interestingly those under 22, only Anthony Martial, Marcus Rashford and Timothy Fosu-Mensah have impressed and all have super talent they'd have made it with or without the "LVG effect".
 
Don't forget dithering Dave's charity shield win!

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Nope, the majority of them were already at the club and had to be used because of his poor squad management during last summer.

Interestingly those under 22, only Anthony Martial, Marcus Rashford and Timothy Fosu-Mensah have impressed and all have super talent they'd have made it with or without the "LVG effect".

Rashford and Timothy Fosu-Mensah would not have got near the first team if LVG had not sold so many players. I aint a fan of LVG, however he does deserve a lot of credit for some things he has done.
 
Um, to say he 'discovered' those players is giving him a bit too much credit don't you think?

Oh god yeah. As with the other players he claims he "discovered". He deserves a bit of credit for it but that's it.

But it would be great for us if those three go on to have the sorts of futures that LVG would then happily boast about to the same degree that he boasts about Muller, Xavi and Iniesta.
 
Or, you could say that he will turn Rashers, Big Timmy, Tony M and Lingard into world beaters
Yeah that or people and players will (still) complain about playing in rigid formations and tactics.

I can't wait.
 
If someone is good enough, you can't ignore them.

And, to be fair, Rashford wouldn't have gotten a look in if Martial hadn't of gotten injured imo

Martial or Rooney. Have to give LVG credit, he has done good work in promoting young players.
 
Martial or Rooney. Have to give LVG credit, he has done good work in promoting young players.
Rooney was injured first, Will Keane got injured. Wilson was on loan, the shuffle for Martial to move up front was hindered by a thigh injury. At the final hour cometh, Rashford.
 
Martial or Rooney. Have to give LVG credit, he has done good work in promoting young players.
The developing and what not are always done by players themselves and youth coaches mainly. Mangers at senior level can only prepare them mentally mostly.

But they have guts or balls to give youths chances? That's a big question. So far Jose hasn't show much of it.

LVG is lucky with youths. If so, he gets lucky whenever he goes then. And you would want a manager with a bit of luck like that. Not saying we should keep LVG though. I don't see any point of it.
 
Rooney was injured first, Will Keane got injured. Wilson was on loan, the shuffle for Martial to move up front was hindered by a thigh injury. At the final hour cometh, Rashford.
I don't think it is a bad thing? Because he intended to give Keane who is our youth a chance. It is that Rashford's luck that he was there when he was needed. LVG would have been doing what he was doing regardless like giving youth a chance? It is exactly what he said he would do way before that happened.

Why would someone give 18 years old a chance a head of Rooney or Martial when they are good to play. Not even SAF has done it much IF any. In fact SAF played 'that midfield' against blackburn over you know who. It is not a pop at SAF. But, it shows how it works.

If anything, Rashford was lucky and so are we.
 
I don't think it is a bad thing? Because he intended to give Keane who is our youth a chance. It is that Rashford's luck that he was there when he was needed. LVG would have been doing what he was doing regardless like giving youth a chance? It is exactly what he said he would do way before that happened.

Why would someone give 18 years old a chance a head of Rooney or Martial when they are good to play. Not even SAF has done it much IF any. In fact SAF played 'that midfield' against blackburn over you know who. It is not a pop at SAF. But, it shows how it works.

If anything, Rashford was lucky and so are we.
Oh, yes I was just describing the move blow by blow.
 
The developing and what not are always done by players themselves and youth coaches mainly. Mangers at senior level can only prepare them mentally mostly.

For me, giving them their debut is the easy thing. Keeping them level headed and getting consistency is another. Our bench today was telling, big money buys like Mata and Depay there, while Rashford and Fosu-Mensah started.
 
I don't think it is a bad thing? Because he intended to give Keane who is our youth a chance. It is that Rashford's luck that he was there when he was needed. LVG would have been doing what he was doing regardless like giving youth a chance? It is exactly what he said he would do way before that happened.

Why would someone give 18 years old a chance a head of Rooney or Martial when they are good to play. Not even SAF has done it much IF any. In fact SAF played 'that midfield' against blackburn over you know who. It is not a pop at SAF. But, it shows how it works.

If anything, Rashford was lucky and so are we.

In fairness, everything in sport and life is about luck.
 
For me, giving them their debut is the easy thing. Keeping them level headed and getting consistency is another. Our bench today was telling, big money buys like Mata and Depay there, while Rashford and Fosu-Mensah started.
Well exactly. LVG is a bit of insane sometimes though which is a trait that most good mangers have.

Just to compared, SAF would have started Valencia every day of the week.

So I don't know if he is that good or lucky with youths. But, for sure is he is insane enough to do it if he thinks is right.

His squad and youth handling in general is one of the very few positives about him.
 
In relation to Mourinho and youth, a great manager once wanted to get rid of Paul Scholes before he was even near the first team....
Well, there is a skill set to spot and judge youth players and there is having none of it (almost at all) even to start with.
 
You honestly think that Mourinho wouldn't have been able to spot and judge a young Giggs or Rooney or Ronaldo or whomever else?
If he would, he hasn't showed too much yet considering how many places he has been to and stuff he has been winning. Who are his wonderkids that he brought into his sides and go on to become a very good player? Unless there is no more Giggs, or Rooney or Ronaldo type of talents don't happen since he started managing football.

Also, there is a big chance that he lacks of balls to give them chances even if he has the skill sets.

Obviously, for someone who think that he will be our next manager, I would want to think that he couldn't do it in the past because no one cared about it in those clubs. Hopefully, he at least tries to do it with us a bit if possible.
 
If he would, he hasn't showed too much yet considering how many places he has been to and stuff he has been winning. Who are his wonderkids that he brought into his sides and go on to become a very good player? Unless there is no more Giggs, or Rooney or Ronaldo type of talents don't happen since he started managing football.

Also, there is a big chance that he lacks of balls to give them chances even if he has the skill sets.

Obviously, for someone who think that he will be our next manager, I would want to think that he couldn't do it in the past because no one cared about it in those clubs. Hopefully, he at least tries to do it with us a bit if possible.

One thing I'll say is, whatever about anything else and whatever you may think of him, Mourinho does not lack balls
 
One thing I'll say is, whatever about anything else and whatever you may think of him, Mourinho does not lack balls
Well, in this case, I think he does. Nothing else can explain it. Which is odd to me.

Either that or he just does not care about the youths.
 
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