Explaining that to the triage nurse would be so embarrassing.
OT EVACUATED | Device signed as having been recovered, could NOT be detected by sniffer dogs
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No, it's common sense. It ended up being a glorified fire drill and there was no hint of any danger.
If any and all things are to be taken through to their worst case scenario conclusion then there is an argument to be made that playing football at all is dangerous and people sometimes die or get seriously harmed doing so. In turn we should stop playing it all together.
That is of course a ridiculous scenario but the point stands, sometimes things just have to be judged on the evidence of what actually happened.
We don't know where exactly it was or how it was found yet, so yeah the assumption it should have been easily noticed before that may or may not be true.
just had email about the game, nothing about a refund
What do you mean by "them"?
Just got home, came up from London last & night came back this evening.
I sit in the NW quadrant too, me and my family got to the stadium at around 2:30 and they wouldn't let us in, everyone thankfully was very very calm and all the fans moved efficiently out of harms way.
The way security and police handled it was great. I am so happy that no one was harmed or worse, killed. It's scary how easy it is for someone to plant such a thing, even if it wasn't real. Fairly nervy at the time, glad I am home now though!!
I sit in the NW quadrant too, me and my family got to the stadium at around 2:30 and they wouldn't let us in, everyone thankfully was very very calm and all the fans moved efficiently out of harms way.
The way security and police handled it was great. I am so happy that no one was harmed or worse, killed. It's scary how easy it is for someone to plant such a thing, even if it wasn't real. Fairly nervy at the time, glad I am home now though!!
Could be. Admitting there was a real bomb at the ground wouldn't be a smart idea. Then again, that's just thinking cynically
The security firm should take a large portion of the blame for what happened but surely if there was a recent training exercise, it might've occurred to one of the club officials that there's a possibility the two incidents were linked. It took 8 or 9 hours for them to determine that much.
My criticism was probably too strong though, it was well handled for the most part.
Another inside job.
Oh right, I remember there was some stuff about Schneiderlin but I thought it was fake.
Stobz were you the guy who was meant to count up the fake bombs at the end?
I agree but I think most people have used the word embarrassing or a joke because they genuinely feel embarrassed for the club, whether the club are only 1% to blame we are a huge global brand and no one will really give two fecks about the security firms negligence they will just hear that a lifelike bomb has been living inside OT for four days without anyone noticing until prior to today's kickoff. It certainly doesn't paint the club in a good light despite the obviously brilliantly handled Evacuation.
Seriously linking it to us being shit on the pitch is ridiculous of course but I doubt most on here are truLy doing that, just venting I'd imagine. Anyway we all have a right to our own opinions rightly or wrongly but the Caf is a tad angry these days, lots of abuse being thrown back and forth, surely that is all van Gaals fault of course
No need to be a terse little cnut.
We all get things wrong man, one only has to look briefly at your posting history to see that.Stobz were you the guy who was meant to count up the fake bombs at the end?
Just had an email:
After a game/event yes, in between games/events probably notWait a minute.....
Does this mean the toilets at the ground are never cleaned?!?
Well when the information starts coming from the police/govt about tracking down those who planted it, well the cover story would be blown.
And? When the training exercise finished, why weren't all the devices accounted for?
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While I think Stan is a bit mad and he's probably losing the main point in his tweets, butI do agree that more questions need to be asked.
Stan Collymore's Twitter feed is probably (only just) more entertaining than the Caf' at the moment. Check it out.
Couldn't this fiasco have happened at soccer aid to spare me the pain of watching Olly fecking Murs!
It's not like the apprentice electrician left his screwdriver behind is it. I'm sure whoever was at fault gets paid a lot of money for the responsibility they take on and so they should pay when being totally incompetent.
It didn't have to be one of the two. There is nothing great about what happened. It's embarrassing and the result of some serious incompetence.
The individual responsible should be dealt with by that company, i've said that repeatedly.
It's not like the apprentice electrician left his screwdriver behind is it. I'm sure whoever was at fault gets paid a lot of money for the responsibility they take on and so they should pay when being totally incompetent.
Somehow I sense a low turnout coming up on Tuesday.
The club is going to need some good news to bury this crap very soon..
The club is going to need some good news to bury this crap very soon..
fair play to the club - its a massive feck up but at least they have moved quickly to make it right.
The security company that placed the fake device must be completely incompetent if they do not make an inventory at the end of their tests. Then again, seems to be a lot of incompetency around the club since Woody took the helm.
But with the training exercise story, it ends the whole thing there. No witch hunt or panic.
I agree with that, but they would never be too certain. If they see a bomb looking thing, they're not just going to assume it was the security firm leaving it behind. They're not going to attempt to move it because of that too.
The security firm should potentially have realised their mistake and rang up when it was on national news, but even then there's no way of 100% verifying it was them and not evacuating the stadium.
The only criticism I have of the club and their security employees is not seeing it in the toilet if it was, like reported, in there for 4 days @.Rossi. I'm not sure how they didn't, but I can only assume there was a reason. It's poor from them, but the way they dealt with it all at the time was perfect.
Who knows, maybe the whole thing was a part of the external companies plan and the United security lot passed the test
Reported as "taped to back of a toilet door". If true, would like to think that'd get noticed?
You ring the company and ask:" Could you describe your fake device, please?", "Okay, I think that we found it".I agree with that, but they would never be too certain. If they see a bomb looking thing, they're not just going to assume it was the security firm leaving it behind. They're not going to attempt to move it because of that too.
The security firm should potentially have realised their mistake and rang up when it was on national news, but even then there's no way of 100% verifying it was them and not evacuating the stadium.
The only criticism I have of the club and their security employees is not seeing it in the toilet if it was, like reported, in there for 4 days @.Rossi. I'm not sure how they didn't, but I can only assume there was a reason. It's poor from them, but the way they dealt with it all at the time was perfect.
Who knows, maybe the whole thing was a part of the external companies plan and the United security lot passed the test
embarrasing end to an embarresing season.
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No mate
"If you don't have the cloakroom ticket, you're not getting it back mate"
Regardless of who's fault it was, the media and rest of football will look at this as yet another embarrassing incident for us. We're threatening to become synonymous with mishaps and blunders under Woodward, which is made all the worse that he looks rather comedic and is likely to stick by a bumbling, rambling clown of a manager. If we're not careful, our reputation is going to become something of a joke over the next few months