OT EVACUATED | Device signed as having been recovered, could NOT be detected by sniffer dogs

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How has a fake bomb been sat in the toilets and not picked up by anyone before fans started filling the stadium 4 days later.
 

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To be honest if the club employs an incompetent security firm that leaves fake bombs laying around, I would blame them too. They're responsible for their employees and contractors.
Agreed.

It had been there for 4 days prior to the game and nobody found it, which is a bit shocking.
 

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Someone has dropped a massive bollock it seems.

At least the club acted sensibly though. Large event, lots of people all cleared without incident. Could have been real, wasn't and nobody got hurt. The systems work, so that's good.

Most of all, nobody intended to do this, which had to be a positive.
 

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This is in no way the fault of the club. Wish all the 'we're an embarrassment' posts would stop.
You are right mate, there was a chance that supporters were in danger, and the game was postponed because of that. Correct decision, if a suspected bomb is found then there is no alternative but to call the game off. The safety of the people at the match is paramount and I am happy to see that is how it was treated by the club. No Embarrassment, a suspected bomb has to be taken seriously.
 

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It is embarrassing. But the club isn't entirely at fault.
Not entirely, but they are to blame. They may be able to get compensation in turn from the security company, if that doesn't bankrupt them.
 
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The only embarrassment from the club's point of view is the failure to not notice the device sooner
From noticing it on gameday, they will have notified the police as is their duty to protect the people attending the game, and from there the police will have made every decision, from evacuation through to abandonment through to bomb squad etc.
 

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:lol: the club & the private company made to look like idiots.

Still the correct thing to do in evacuating the stadium & abandoning the game, but what a farce! You'd have thought someone would've noticed it in the preceding 4 days and/or the company would've realised something is missing.
 

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He's right, it's pathetic.

A report appears saying an external security firm left a dummy device by accident following a training exercise and there's instantly a dozen people slagging off the club when it's feck all to do with them.
It was an external company.
Nah....the ridicule the club will surely receive from this is entirely justified. It may have been an external company that fecked up but the club is fully responsible for what goes on within the ground. A fecking fake bomb was left lying around for a number of days and nobody clicked on until match day.
 

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I suppose the obvious takeaway from the story is that between Wednesday and Sunday there are no - or at least insufficient - sweeps of the ground. That'll change, you'd imagine.
Yeah that was my first thought.

Good news though, much better than the alternative explanations.
 

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Agreed.

It had been there for 4 days prior to the game and nobody found it which is a bit shocking.
Depends where it was. Presumably if they were using it with sniffer dogs it wouldn't be in plain sight, though not completely hidden.
 

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Really?
You expect them to take that risk with 76000 people? The club did absolutely the right thing, yes, if they were aware they were doing this kind of training exercise they would have been fairly confident it wasn't going to be harmful, but they have a duty of care to inform the police and then the police will have taken the course of action that was taken today. "Just lob it in the bin". Wow
I thought it was inexplicably obvious that that part of the post wasn't entirely serious. I didn't really expect it to just be binned... Just that someone at Old Trafford today must have known about such drills taking place, the device could have been identified by the owner of it. But the point I am making is that I don't believe that that spin on the story is true at all. I could be wrong, but it sounds like shite.
 

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Thank God we have you around to defend the reputation of the club huh :lol: this place is getting RAWK lite

You're telling me no United staff were involved in this activity and no United staff managed the grounds in between the events?
Exactly The club would surely have people on sight liasing and supervising an external company on its property. It is the fault of the firm for forgetting it but surely the old trafford staff and security would of at least checked the area in which the exercise was being done afterwards. Maybe I just have too much common sense.

People may be overreacting in a negative way towards the club but the reactions to those posts are just as bad.
 

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Just seen the breaking news pop up on my phone and cannot believe it was a bloody fake bomb. The club are a flipping laughing stock once again. Embarrassing that we can't get anything fecking right.
 

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You are right mate
The embarrassment stems from the fact that the club's own employees planted the fake bomb by accident. If you think that's not embarrassing, you must have skin like a rhino
 

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This may seem to be a stupid question, but did you get interviewed by CBC at some point today? I ask this because I just saw CBC interview a Vancouver couple in Manchester, and the interviewer mentioned that she interviewed someone else as well.
 

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This is worrying. Not some juvenile bullshit about getting fined or looking a bit stupid.

It gives the impression that more work has to be done surrounding security between matches.
Didn't realise stating potential reproccusions was juvenile.
 

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So almost 10% of our Premier League games have been started late this season due to our staggering incompetence.

It actually beggars belief.
 

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How has a fake bomb been sat in the toilets and not picked up by anyone before fans started filling the stadium 4 days later.
It was probably pretty hard to spot. A terrorists is going to make a bomb as concealable as possible, it makes sense that they prepare for one like that.
 

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Assistant Chief Constable John O’Hare from Greater Manchester Police said: “I am grateful to the Manchester United and Bournemouth supporters for their support and assistance today.

“Following today’s controlled explosion, we have since found out that the item was a training device which had accidentally been left by a private company following a training exercise involving explosive search dogs.

“Whilst this item did not turn out to be a viable explosive, on appearance this device was as real as could be, and the decision to evacuate the stadium was the right thing to do, until we could be sure that people were not at risk.

“Everyone remained calm, followed instructions, and worked with officers and stewards to ensure that a safe evacuation was quickly completed. Those present today were a credit to the football family and their actions should be recognised.

“I would also like to thank all those involved in the operation today for such a professional response, which includes police officers, stewards, MUFC staff, media representatives and commentators and the Bomb Disposal Team.”


Executive Vice Chairman Ed Woodward from Manchester United Football Club said: “The safety of fans is always our highest priority.

“I’d like to thank the support from the police which was first class and the impeccable response from fans of both teams.

“The Club takes security very seriously and staff are regularly trained with the police and emergency services to identify and deal with these incidents.

“We will investigate the incident to inform future actions and decisions.”
Why would you make a device as real looking as possible for training dogs? They work off scent not sight don't they. Or have these dogs been sat in classes where they have been taught how to recognise a viable explosive device by sight.
 

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This is an absolure fecking shambols.

If it turns out that this whole thing is internal we deserve a fine and a points deduction.

How can we not know what training exercises are taking place and where?!
 

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Guys...I know this won't be popular, but hear me out, as I'm going to say what everyone is secretly thinking...

How's this going to affect the share price?
 

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I'm not sure where the blame lies with this particular incident but we have become very unprofessional and poor at dealing with events in the years since Fergie and Gill have left. Between this, the Herrera lawyers, De Gea fax machine, Moyes, van Gaal and results on the pitch - we look like we're riddled with poor management throughout the club. We may not be to blame today but the overall underlying theme of the last 3 years has been inept management throughout the club.
 

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LvG brought us Murphys Law. Everything must be shit now.

On a serious note, I agree with you 100%.
I don't think anyone thinks a bomb scare is a laughing stock situation. But the negligence of how it was there reflects pretty badly on whoever is liable whether that's the club and the security company or just one of them.