LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!

Do you want LVG sacked?


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fallengt

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I was one of the many who wanted LVG out for obvious reasons.

But one thing that nobody ever mentions but that should be remembered is that he never lost the dressing room. With Moyes you felt like he lost the dressing room after a few months. With LVG, despite poor performances and results, you always saw that the players performed for him and believed in whatever he tried to get them to do. Food for thought.
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Ahh, I see the "Leave Louis alone!" posts are in full swing.

I'm sorry but I'm delighted to top off the FA Cup with news this fraud is leaving us. He failed miserably in the champions league, failed miserably in the league making us finish outside the top 4 in a season where all our rivals couldn't be arsed and Leicester fecking City won it, and to top it all off he's given us the most utterly tumescent football I've seen in my life time. And I've yet to mention his despicable treatment of players and stubbornness. The fact we've sacked him isn't unclassy, on the contrary the fact we've let him fester this long instead of sacking him back in December like we should have is the most irrationally classy gesture from the club. He can take his FA cup 'title' (thanks Louis) and his very handsome severance pay and feck off to Portugal as far as I'm concerned. Good riddance.

Bring on Jose.
 

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He had two seasons spent a fortune and we still nearly finished 7th? All the while making us the most boring team in the league.

The cup win clearly puts him above Moyes but you know that's one games difference.
Moyes spent 70+ million and bought Fellaini and Mata, two players we didn't really need. In fact it took a new manager to get decent performances out of these two players.
Yes, it was an uphill battle on many occasions, but at least LVG managed to meet the minimum objective to be given another season in charge of this side. Moyes couldn't cope with the pressure and made it plainly obvious in his "handling" of the media.

So let's not rewrite history, and pretend that a manager that brought us down to Everton's level, who lost the dressing room in no time at all, had no clearly defined way of playing the game, and whose endorsement is now widely accepted as a grave oversight by the previous manager, was better for us than Louis Van Gaal, who won us an FA Cup, and left the first team with some decent players at the end of it all.
 

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He should have been sacked back in December when any other manager would have been but Woodward backed him and has allowed him to see out the season and go out with a trophy. He has been treated a lot better than people are making out.
You've misinterpreted my meaning mate. You're right he could have gone at Christmas, and was lucky to get the rest of the season. It's not what they've done, it's how they've done it. We know he's gone before Van Gaal is even certain of his demise.

Funny as it was at the time, Moist suffered the same, and ended up sat alone in his (ex) office at 4'O clock in the morning waiting for Woodward to get out of bed.

Having said that, they will have/had millions shovelled into their bank account to compensate.
 

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Paddy Crerand still not having it that he might be gone.

Jesus Christ.

How deluded is Paddy? I know he is a legend, but some of the stuff he was saying was ridiculous. Also calling Sevilla garbage is stupid.
 

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I did like Van Gaal for a while and supported us sticking by him but it was his treatment of Valdes that started to change my opinion of him. People are saying Van Gaal has been harshly treated and has acted with dignity but he has certainly lacked class himself on occasion while he's been here.
So, it didn't bother you that:
- we got dumped out of the CL.
- we played the most boring football in the league
- we scored the fewest goals in our recent club history
- we consistently failed to score in the first half of our games
- we broke several negative records
- and all this while spending a huge sum of money in 2 seasons

But the one thing which bothered you was his LVG's relationship with Valdes? :houllier:
 

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This. It's fecking pathetic. We won the FA Cup and the fans once again proved their fickleness. Can't wait for Monday/Tuesday for the club to confirm it.
Indeed.
Throughout the season I noticed that when we lost, people wanted LVG sacked.
When he won 1 game, fans wanted him to stay.
I saw this reflected in the poll results.

Fans need to understand you cannot sack (or keep) a manager based on 1 good game or 1 bad game.
Decisions are based on the bigger picture.
 

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Paddy is a legend. He could still quite easily be right, too. We've heard these stories once before this season and they turned out to be bollocks.
Mate, LVG is leaving. Jose is arriving. Get used to it.
 

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Mate, LVG is leaving. Jose is arriving. Get used to it.
Mate, i was probably one of the first to vote for bringing Jose here earlier this season whilst most didn't want him anywhere near the club. I'm perfectly used to it. Doesn't mean I'll just believe everything the media says. This place has a history of shooting it's load too soon based on the media bollocks (Sneijder etc). I'll believe it when/if it is made official.
 

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Good for Paddy. The press are a liability. Even if he's wrong, most of the time what he's saying is true - with these people writing any old bollocks. Just like we do on forums :) Well said Paddy. You could tell he had that guy on the back foot lol
 

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Paddy on radio now. Tbh he came out with this when Moyes was finally sacked.
 

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Good for Paddy. The press are a liability. Even if he's wrong, most of the time what he's saying is true - with these people writing any old bollocks. Just like we do on forums :) Well said Paddy. You could tell he had that guy on the back foot lol
I think they just felt bad for him. His point is a good one in theory, but he should pick a better time to come out all guns blazing, this certainly isn't the moment.
 

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Mate, i was probably one of the first to vote for bringing Jose here earlier this season whilst most didn't want him anywhere near the club. I'm perfectly used to it. Doesn't mean I'll just believe everything the media says. This place has a history of shooting it's load too soon based on the media bollocks (Sneijder etc). I'll believe it when/if it is made official.
When did the BBC ever announce we were signing Sneijder?
 

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To be honest the breaking news was a huge bonus to the cup win. It was a typical shite Van Gaal all over the place match against Crystal fecking Palace, if it went to penalties we were more than likely cooked. We won in the last few minuets of extra time by a worldly goal scored by a player that has done feck all for months.
Don't get me wrong, this is the trophy I have coveted for a long time and Louis has contributed to the win but the confirmation has drawn a line under the worst football I have ever seen from a top fifty side, we were an absolute disgrace under this manager. We knew he was gone after the final, done, it was so inevitable but there was that small part of me that felt maybe he would stay. Why the big pissing fit because it was leaked on the day. By all means let's celebrate but not for one second should we forget that we limped in to fifth this season and have been a poor excuse of a football team this season.
Look at Van Gaals comments, the guy is a bit of a prick and we can judge the guy on his carry on at the other big clubs he has managed. Funny, but a prick none the less. Mourinho is here backed by over a decade of success a super agent in his pocket a soon to be DoF and six months distraction free preparation. Brilliant news no matter when or where it came from.
 

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Indeed.
Throughout the season I noticed that when we lost, people wanted LVG sacked.
When he won 1 game, fans wanted him to stay.
I saw this reflected in the poll results.

Fans need to understand you cannot sack (or keep) a manager based on 1 good game or 1 bad game.
Decisions are based on the bigger picture.
Absolutely shocking that the poll kept changing from game to game, talk about knee jerk!
 

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Revisionism of his reign has already begun I see, the usual 'foundations' garbage and Barca/Bayern comparison shite being brought up, I thought only one peculiar WUM would ever try and propose such nonsense but it'll fly under the radar with all that's happened this weekend but it simply has to be laughed at. Have a nice retirement Louis and tell yourself you were a success here but this belated sacking and imminent Jose announcement at least says that the club isn't totally oblivious to another failed managerial regime. The fact it didn't happen 6 months ago is still a stain and has cost us CL next season, but the club only has itself to blame for that. Winning the cup was fantastic and it was great to see how strong the team responded to going behind and the red card, great Brentan styled character in fact, but LVG's failure was already assured well before that anyway so it was a nice finish to a dreary season.

I've no doubt that if we have any success under Mourinho in the next 2/3 years that there will be some trying to shamelessly credit Van Gaal, absolutely no doubt it will happen at some point, some United fans are just so enamored with him for whatever reason which I find bizarre. We had constant mention of Moyes being 'honest' and a 'nice guy' and now we'll get head wrecking comments about LVG being a 'character' and being the paragon of youth players. Whatever, he's gone, he has his pay off and FA cup, but his reign was a failure in almost every category and his comments and deluded nonsense about fans expectations really exposed that not only was he a failure here, but an arrogant one at that.

That 'Thank you Van Gaal' and that car crash 'we have lost our class' threads really show how many United fans' priorities are really out of sync IMO. Some honestly like to believe we are some type of special, precious and kind hearted club with 'class'™. Yes, that multi-million pound sporting corporation owned but American business tycoons that makes more money off advertising and selling products than any other in the world is really quaint and humble and prioritizes how nice it acts to underperforming employees. Is Jose a self centered twat? Probably, is he one of the most successful managers in the modern era? Yes, which is more important? Go figure. I wouldn't have cared a shite how arrogant or stubborn Vangle was if he didn't produce such shite, but he did so it only pronounced the need to replace him.
 

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I love the way he bigged his ego up again "I have won trophies in 4 countries"

Yeah you've just been sacked in 4 countries too you egotistical twat

Good riddance, can't believe the revisionism crap.
 

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I don't know. Who gives a feck about the BBC? They only became a bastion of truth when they reported the news everyone wanted. I could start a thread on all the things BBC news have been wrong about, so dont try peddling this bollocks about them always being right.
Examples? I think it's pretty extensively accepted that they're the most reliable news source.

But if you're really that unconvinced it's happening, you should go put a bet on it. Van Gaal leaving is at about 1/100 right now, you'll make a mint.
 

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I don't know. Who gives a feck about the BBC? They only became a bastion of truth when they reported the news everyone wanted. I could start a thread on all the things BBC news have been wrong about, so dont try peddling this bollocks about them always being right.
Go on then.

You'll find it incredibly tough.
 

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Paddy Crerand still not having it that he might be gone.

Inspector Paddy is on the dossier.:lol:

I have to admit that the BBC should have kept that "information" for themselves, no one else have been given the information that Mourinho will replace LVG.
 
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